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Essentia
Profile Joined July 2010
1150 Posts
May 15 2011 18:32 GMT
#81
Sucks idra has to carry his whole team every time.
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
May 15 2011 19:20 GMT
#82
Jeez enough EG hate. They took 2nd in a pretty good team league. The format makes it so the home team gets to pick 3 out of 4 of the matchups so one team has a pretty healthy advantage over the other in terms of getting good match ups for their players (ask anyone in this league, they will agree). EG had a good showing and if you have anything stupid to say about it just keep it to yourself
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
May 15 2011 19:34 GMT
#83
On May 16 2011 03:24 LynxKerr wrote:
When EG starts DeMuslim, Idra as their mainstays, they are EXTREMELY good. Strifecro, Incontrol, with all due respect, are going to lose EG endless amounts of important clan league matches.


Strifecro's Clan match records aren't bad at all. He carried EG quite well in the winners league style clan leagues a little while back.
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Noxie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2227 Posts
May 15 2011 19:37 GMT
#84
Grats coL

GG's last night everyone
teamamerica
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States958 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-16 13:55:48
May 16 2011 13:53 GMT
#85
Wow just got done watching this series the Cruncher vs Idra series.

+ Show Spoiler +

Gotta love Cruncher 2base 10gate blink stalker play ^^ Glad to see Idra respond to it better in game 3. Things were a bit different though because of earlier aggression. I'm wondering how game 2 would have played out if Idra had gotten his ups, or if he thrown down a macro hatch earlier (to pump extra speedlings). Cruncher's build (in the true nature of all his builds!) really abused strength of blink stalkers, and I feel he could have thrown down a 3rd and transitioned out of that decently. I mean he wasn't that close to being mined out. Blink stalkers pretty decent against hydras in when there's a wide concave on both sides. Crunchers micro was sick though, but I mean when you're not macroing at all anymore and have 10 gates on 2 base I guess all you have to do is micro. Missing a gateway cooldown np.

If you can't tell, upsets me to see Idra lose when he's 60 supply up in roach/hydra and Cruncher just runs 10 gates 2 base and crushes ~_~

Cruncher fighting though! Just not against Idra <3. Always fun to see these two go at it, even I wish Idra stomps
RIP GOMTV. RIP PROLEAGUE.
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
May 16 2011 14:06 GMT
#86
On May 15 2011 14:07 iNcontroL wrote:
not sure why we are getting hate.. col is a good team.

Demuslim has relocalizer issues atm and couldn't play on NA server
machine is out of town
I was traveling every day of the week and this was my first day back.. I was incredibly rusty

We took 2nd. Obviously in top shape with top lineup we probably win... but today CoL was the better team. Congratulate them... taking pot shots at us and saying stupid shit is dumb.


Sir, this wouldn't be the TL forums as of late if there wouldn't be any hate at all after an upset... but yeah CoL is a good team, I wish people -- mostly puberts and teenagers I guess -- would focus on the winner's attributes rather than talking shit about the loser, but it will never happen unless the winner is hyped enough.
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-16 14:42:29
May 16 2011 14:13 GMT
#87
On May 15 2011 14:07 iNcontroL wrote:
not sure why we are getting hate.. col is a good team.

Demuslim has relocalizer issues atm and couldn't play on NA server
machine is out of town
I was traveling every day of the week and this was my first day back.. I was incredibly rusty

We took 2nd. Obviously in top shape with top lineup we probably win... but today CoL was the better team. Congratulate them... taking pot shots at us and saying stupid shit is dumb.


Do you see the irony here?


You are a great caster though!
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18131 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-16 14:19:55
May 16 2011 14:18 GMT
#88
On May 15 2011 08:19 Trumpstyle wrote:
I think Demuslim and Idra are the only good players in EG rest of them feels like meh.

incontrol is hardly a bad player either...

Anyway, gratz coL and also EG for 2nd place.
rsvp
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States2266 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-16 16:12:57
May 16 2011 16:12 GMT
#89
On May 16 2011 04:20 Alejandrisha wrote:
Jeez enough EG hate. They took 2nd in a pretty good team league. The format makes it so the home team gets to pick 3 out of 4 of the matchups so one team has a pretty healthy advantage over the other in terms of getting good match ups for their players (ask anyone in this league, they will agree). EG had a good showing and if you have anything stupid to say about it just keep it to yourself


FYI EG was the home team in the grand finals. For those thinking EG would have won easily in a KOTH/winner's league style event, note that Idra dropped a game in both sets, so he's not unbeatable. Also EG did not place in top 2 in either SGL season 1 or 2, which was a winner's league style team league.

That being said, 2nd is indeed not a poor showing at all. The playoffs for team leagues can be unforgiving at times - you can perform extremely well the entire season, but then lose a match or 2 in the playoffs and thus not meet your potential.

EG gets a ton of exposure, and thus expectations are extremely high for them. It's understandable where the "hate" comes from, although I'd label it more as "surprise." But the truth is, it's very volatile at the top, and while EG is certainly one of the best teams in NA if not the best, many other teams are on par or close behind them. But that just makes things more exciting :D
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-16 16:17:39
May 16 2011 16:16 GMT
#90
On May 15 2011 08:15 Grettin wrote:
Well, Idra didn't let anyone down it seems.

Should check out the replays!


Too bad he's the only one... The rest of the team is sub par, save axslav when hes on form and DeMuslim when hes on form.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
GxZ
Profile Joined April 2010
United States375 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-16 16:27:22
May 16 2011 16:24 GMT
#91
This league actually determines who has the better team. Though I do prefer winners league, but for a team this is to see who is the best.

Grats to coL.
Savern101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom859 Posts
May 16 2011 16:26 GMT
#92
On May 17 2011 01:16 GreEny K wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 08:15 Grettin wrote:
Well, Idra didn't let anyone down it seems.

Should check out the replays!


Too bad he's the only one... The rest of the team is sub par, save axslav when hes on form and DeMuslim when hes on form.


Demuslim has only shown form during his comeback. He got EG's only win against Dignitas in the EG masters cup (2-0 against Merz, a TvT sniper). Idra and Demuslim are the top EG players atm. Watch Demu at columbus, his current form suggests (as long as he sorts his TvZ out, he's starting to practice with Idra) he should place really well there.

People saying Demuslim doesn't fit EG, is probably because of the unfortunate timing of his arm-break which happened just after he joined. EG masters cup was his first tourney representing them afaik.
EG.DeMusliM/d.BlinG/UK Fighting!
purecarnagge
Profile Joined August 2010
719 Posts
May 16 2011 18:03 GMT
#93
On May 15 2011 14:07 iNcontroL wrote:
not sure why we are getting hate.. col is a good team.

Demuslim has relocalizer issues atm and couldn't play on NA server
machine is out of town
I was traveling every day of the week and this was my first day back.. I was incredibly rusty

We took 2nd. Obviously in top shape with top lineup we probably win... but today CoL was the better team. Congratulate them... taking pot shots at us and saying stupid shit is dumb.


Sounds like a bunch of excuses. EG consistently underperforms (outside of Idra) and that includes you buddy. You want fans you want to be professionals, then win. And when you lose, don't cry about it. You guys played in the event, and now want to cry about people being out of town, and not being able to play on NA server? There is thing called "planning". A solid organization would know of any all conflicts and be ready for it. They wouldn't be using them as excuses to cover there lackluster play. Its not like you guys went 2-1, 1-2...you went 2-1 and then got rolled.

Bottom line is you guys underperformed and its nothing new.
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
May 16 2011 18:10 GMT
#94
I didn't realize second place was "under performing". Complexity is a pretty strong team.
Yargh
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10682 Posts
May 16 2011 18:11 GMT
#95
Sounds like a bunch of excuses. EG consistently underperforms (outside of Idra) and that includes you buddy. You want fans you want to be professionals, then win. And when you lose, don't cry about it. You guys played in the event, and now want to cry about people being out of town, and not being able to play on NA server? There is thing called "planning". A solid organization would know of any all conflicts and be ready for it. They wouldn't be using them as excuses to cover there lackluster play. Its not like you guys went 2-1, 1-2...you went 2-1 and then got rolled.

Bottom line is you guys underperformed and its nothing new.


You sir, took the words right out of my mouth, well written.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
May 16 2011 18:15 GMT
#96
On May 17 2011 03:03 purecarnagge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 14:07 iNcontroL wrote:
not sure why we are getting hate.. col is a good team.

Demuslim has relocalizer issues atm and couldn't play on NA server
machine is out of town
I was traveling every day of the week and this was my first day back.. I was incredibly rusty

We took 2nd. Obviously in top shape with top lineup we probably win... but today CoL was the better team. Congratulate them... taking pot shots at us and saying stupid shit is dumb.


Sounds like a bunch of excuses. EG consistently underperforms (outside of Idra) and that includes you buddy. You want fans you want to be professionals, then win. And when you lose, don't cry about it. You guys played in the event, and now want to cry about people being out of town, and not being able to play on NA server? There is thing called "planning". A solid organization would know of any all conflicts and be ready for it. They wouldn't be using them as excuses to cover there lackluster play. Its not like you guys went 2-1, 1-2...you went 2-1 and then got rolled.

Bottom line is you guys underperformed and its nothing new.


Stfu, plz
They lost 2 clan wars in 4 days. Just relax it.
get rich or die mining
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GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
May 16 2011 18:42 GMT
#97
On May 15 2011 14:07 iNcontroL wrote:
not sure why we are getting hate.. col is a good team.

Demuslim has relocalizer issues atm and couldn't play on NA server
machine is out of town
I was traveling every day of the week and this was my first day back.. I was incredibly rusty

We took 2nd. Obviously in top shape with top lineup we probably win... but today CoL was the better team. Congratulate them... taking pot shots at us and saying stupid shit is dumb.


You don't see why people are bashing EG yet you sit there and say things like "Obviously in top shape with top lineup we probably win... But CoL was better team, congratulate them"... really? If you really wanted to congratulate them then you wouldn't throw in comments like that. All you would say is "They beat us, congratulate them". You wouldn't sit there and made excuses or try to justify why you lost.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
May 16 2011 18:46 GMT
#98
On May 17 2011 01:26 Savern101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 01:16 GreEny K wrote:
On May 15 2011 08:15 Grettin wrote:
Well, Idra didn't let anyone down it seems.

Should check out the replays!


Too bad he's the only one... The rest of the team is sub par, save axslav when hes on form and DeMuslim when hes on form.


Demuslim has only shown form during his comeback. He got EG's only win against Dignitas in the EG masters cup (2-0 against Merz, a TvT sniper). Idra and Demuslim are the top EG players atm. Watch Demu at columbus, his current form suggests (as long as he sorts his TvZ out, he's starting to practice with Idra) he should place really well there.

People saying Demuslim doesn't fit EG, is probably because of the unfortunate timing of his arm-break which happened just after he joined. EG masters cup was his first tourney representing them afaik.


I'm not disagreeing with you at all, I think DeMuslim and IdrA are good players on the team.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Akilleus
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden82 Posts
May 16 2011 18:48 GMT
#99
IdrA fiiiighhhtttiiiiiing! Wich team should he join? Not so many foreigner teams with much better lineup :/
celious
Profile Joined September 2009
United States195 Posts
May 16 2011 18:51 GMT
#100
this thread has become an argument over something stupid, congratulate the teams don't be idiots.
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