EPTedit, nevermind
Race balance last 6 months. - Page 2
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Al Bundy
7257 Posts
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
For the international graph, it's good to see the matchups are coming pretty close to 50/50; that's all we can really hope for | ||
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4of8
Germany256 Posts
Seems like sc2 is in fact getting more and more balanced at least in the international scene. | ||
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soullogik
United States1171 Posts
would love for you to add the major balance changes to the date part. so we can see whats made a big difference | ||
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Mailing
United States3087 Posts
On May 03 2011 00:00 hmunkey wrote: Another thing to note is that key protoss players like MC have been knocked into up/down in GSL, so they haven't really had many games in Korea lately. Since the KR TLPD is based almost all on GSL, that means there are basically no protoss games to chart. So what we have are dozens of terran games and maybe 4 protoss matches. Though it does seem weird, why would korean protoss fail so hard yet european and NA protoss are fine after the infestor buff? It's not like korean zerg are even using infestors more often. | ||
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vectorix108
United States4633 Posts
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Ctuchik
Sweden91 Posts
On May 03 2011 00:01 AlBundy wrote: Hey guys Don't forget that INTERNATIONAL TLPD includes the korean scene too. International tlpd = more games overall, thus more data. Actually, it doesn't. It does include koreans that play in international tournaments though. Players like Ace and MC for example. | ||
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EscPlan9
United States2777 Posts
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stafu
Australia1196 Posts
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Ctuchik
Sweden91 Posts
On May 02 2011 23:58 hugman wrote: Could you elaborate on what the graphs actually show, like for example how far back in time does the the win percentage in a given point include game from? Or did you just calculate monthly win percentages and then interpolate the points? There is only one data point per month yeah. I could do per week as well if anyone is interested, but that would be a VERY shaky line, as the number of a games per week is fairly low. | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38256 Posts
The Korean graph fluctuates too much as a result of the lack of tournaments they have on a regular basis, and as such I don't think you can really read too much into it. Interesting putting a context on the broad peaks and slumps though. | ||
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Al Bundy
7257 Posts
On May 03 2011 00:03 Ctuchik wrote: Actually, it doesn't. It does include koreans that play in international tournaments though. Players like Ace and MC for example. Oh really ? my bad then. | ||
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K3Nyy
United States1961 Posts
Zerg looks underpowered though and protoss aren't doing as well as everyone makes it sound. | ||
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Treehead
999 Posts
On May 02 2011 23:54 Let it Raine wrote: I wonder. Is it fair to say that korean protosses are generally terrible? That's the feeling I get from watching them but maybe I'm trying too hard to say zerg up. Just when I watch a top 8 code s player like anypro pylon his nexus first, pull half his probes to kill it and then push out with only gateway units vs burrow roaches, I kind of have to wonder. (of course, he still won that series with 2 very skill less builds, the first of which he won even though he had 0 micro on the void ray, which was the focus of the entire build.) It's certainly interesting to see regardless, and I'm surprised at terrans overall success. The best korean protoss players are not terrible. Everyone makes mistakes every now and then. Top zergs are included in that statement. The feeling I get from threads like these is that people want the statistics to reflect the reality that they feel. It usually doesn't. That doesn't mean that your feelings are wrong, and it doesn't mean that statistics are wrong - it does mean that you probably don't understand the data, which is a given in this kind of high level report. | ||
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Jakkerr
Netherlands2549 Posts
*sunglasses up* Protoss is the new underpowered race  joking off course  now toss have to find a way to counter the new zerg builds etc | ||
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DrGreen
Poland708 Posts
Protoss is underpowered. User was warned for this post | ||
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Ctuchik
Sweden91 Posts
On May 03 2011 00:04 stafu wrote: Foreign data is more accurate as many more games are being looked at. I'd love to know how many games are being looked at in PvZ over that last month in Korea? On average it could only be about 45 games, which isn't enough, so don't pay too much attention to that big swing. <_< It's 99 games, 31 wins and 68 losses. Mostly from GSL. I agree it's to little to make any assumptions from, the interesting thing will be to see if it's the start of a trend or just an anomaly. | ||
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Elwar
953 Posts
On May 03 2011 00:03 Mailing wrote: Though it does seem weird, why would korean protoss fail so hard yet european and NA protoss are fine after the infestor buff? It's not like korean zerg are even using infestors more often. Well not fine. Protoss have been underperforming in the NASL recently against zerg. But its to be expected, its not a balance issue just a patch requiring more time for one race to adjust to than another. The international lines converging is pretty exciting. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
2. In Korea, Terran>Zerg>Protoss, with Zerg looking decent only because they get so many wins against Protoss. | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
On May 03 2011 00:07 K3Nyy wrote: Interesting.. it's funny that MVP says terran is the weakest but every statistic proves him wrong. Zerg looks underpowered though and protoss aren't doing as well as everyone makes it sound. How does it makes Zerg look underpowered?_? Anyways, the koran stats are not that accurate since they have way less games than the whole foreign scene does. Good to see things relatively even, bad to see P on such a slump in Korea, and Korean Terran as dominating as ever | ||
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