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On May 23 2012 09:12 RevTiberius wrote:
It's pretty disrespectful that EG.Incontrol keeps refering to diamond league players as "NOOBS" on your show. You guys should pay more genuine respect to your fan base
Err.
Its not an insult, and why should he "respect" your ability to play the game when by definition you don't play it well, more to the point why are you so offended if you think incontrol thinks you are a noob, its a talk show where opinions are expressed, not one to flatter your precious ego.
And if you really think you are just a diamond in the rough, anyday now going to unlock your full starcraft potential, why do you need Inc to vindicate and validate your skill as a player?
Again that is not his job as a talking head.
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On May 23 2012 09:17 Uncultured wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 09:12 RevTiberius wrote:
It's pretty disrespectful that EG.Incontrol keeps refering to diamond league players as "NOOBS" on your show. You guys should pay more genuine respect to your fan base You probably shouldn't get offended over peoples opinon on a completely subjective term. Less you be irritated every time someone uses the word "pro" or "skilled" or "meta" or any other wealth of words that people use in a billion different ways.
I am not personally offended because I no longer play this game. I am merely surprised - though I realise I shouldn't be - how inconsiderate someone like incontrol is.
By definition, diamond league players make up roughly the top 20% of the overall SC2 population leaving aside Master League and GM which are both tiny compared to the other leagues.
I'm merely suggesting that incontrol still has much to learn about how to treat those people he ultimately depends on...
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On May 23 2012 09:22 RevTiberius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 09:17 Uncultured wrote:On May 23 2012 09:12 RevTiberius wrote:
It's pretty disrespectful that EG.Incontrol keeps refering to diamond league players as "NOOBS" on your show. You guys should pay more genuine respect to your fan base You probably shouldn't get offended over peoples opinon on a completely subjective term. Less you be irritated every time someone uses the word "pro" or "skilled" or "meta" or any other wealth of words that people use in a billion different ways. I am not personally offended because I no longer play this game. I am merely surprised - though I realise I shouldn't be - how inconsiderate someone like incontrol is. By definition, diamond league players make up roughly the top 20% of the overall SC2 population leaving aside Master League and GM which are both tiny compared to the other leagues. I'm merely suggesting that incontrol still has much to learn about how to treat those people he ultimately depends on...
I'm masters, and I think it wouldn't be doing the proper respect to Incontrol's or any pro player's skill if he didn't refer to people like me (or below) as noobs. Honestly if some diamond player is offended by being called a noob by a pro player then they probably aren't thick skinned enough to play SC2, with how hard a game it is and how much bm and immaturity that comes with it being played on the internet.
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On May 23 2012 09:22 RevTiberius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 09:17 Uncultured wrote:On May 23 2012 09:12 RevTiberius wrote:
It's pretty disrespectful that EG.Incontrol keeps refering to diamond league players as "NOOBS" on your show. You guys should pay more genuine respect to your fan base You probably shouldn't get offended over peoples opinon on a completely subjective term. Less you be irritated every time someone uses the word "pro" or "skilled" or "meta" or any other wealth of words that people use in a billion different ways. I am not personally offended because I no longer play this game. I am merely surprised - though I realise I shouldn't be - how inconsiderate someone like incontrol is. By definition, diamond league players make up roughly the top 20% of the overall SC2 population leaving aside Master League and GM which are both tiny compared to the other leagues. I'm merely suggesting that incontrol still has much to learn about how to treat those people he ultimately depends on...
So wait, your offended for a third party? Excuse me while I laugh my head off.
Frankly, your argument is total shenanigans, as I would posit that Inc isn't being inconsiderate, "noob" doesn't mean that your a moronic idiot that doesn't know left from right, it just means, for whatever reason, you don't play SC2 at the top level currently.
I'm comfortable being called a noob, I make stupid mistakes and fuck up regularly, and I think most people below pro level are okay with saying that they are varying degrees of bad.
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kerotan actually has my blessing to speak on my behalf, and I am not even being mean or something.. you nailed it sir <3
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On May 23 2012 09:34 Kerotan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 09:22 RevTiberius wrote:On May 23 2012 09:17 Uncultured wrote:On May 23 2012 09:12 RevTiberius wrote:
It's pretty disrespectful that EG.Incontrol keeps refering to diamond league players as "NOOBS" on your show. You guys should pay more genuine respect to your fan base You probably shouldn't get offended over peoples opinon on a completely subjective term. Less you be irritated every time someone uses the word "pro" or "skilled" or "meta" or any other wealth of words that people use in a billion different ways. I am not personally offended because I no longer play this game. I am merely surprised - though I realise I shouldn't be - how inconsiderate someone like incontrol is. By definition, diamond league players make up roughly the top 20% of the overall SC2 population leaving aside Master League and GM which are both tiny compared to the other leagues. I'm merely suggesting that incontrol still has much to learn about how to treat those people he ultimately depends on... So wait, your offended for a third party? Excuse me while I laugh my head off. Frankly, your argument is total shenanigans, as I would posit that Inc isn't being inconsiderate, "noob" doesn't mean that your a moronic idiot that doesn't know left from right, it just means, for whatever reason, you don't play SC2 at the top level currently. I'm comfortable being called a noob, I make stupid mistakes and fuck up regularly, and I think most people below pro level are okay with saying that they are varying degrees of bad.
wow... so much abuse... lol... you don't seem to be able to handle the fact that some people simply don't share your point of view.
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On May 23 2012 09:44 RevTiberius wrote:
wow... so much abuse... lol... you don't seem to be able to handle the fact that some people simply don't share your point of view.
Lots of people have that problem; can't really blame him all that much in the end. Just leave him to his devices.
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On May 23 2012 09:22 RevTiberius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 09:17 Uncultured wrote:On May 23 2012 09:12 RevTiberius wrote:
It's pretty disrespectful that EG.Incontrol keeps refering to diamond league players as "NOOBS" on your show. You guys should pay more genuine respect to your fan base You probably shouldn't get offended over peoples opinon on a completely subjective term. Less you be irritated every time someone uses the word "pro" or "skilled" or "meta" or any other wealth of words that people use in a billion different ways. I am not personally offended because I no longer play this game. I am merely surprised - though I realise I shouldn't be - how inconsiderate someone like incontrol is. By definition, diamond league players make up roughly the top 20% of the overall SC2 population leaving aside Master League and GM which are both tiny compared to the other leagues. I'm merely suggesting that incontrol still has much to learn about how to treat those people he ultimately depends on...
DIamond league players are fucking terrible, I'm diamond, I know.
It's not inconsiderate to state a basic fact that the entire community recognizes...>_>
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On May 23 2012 09:44 RevTiberius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 09:34 Kerotan wrote:On May 23 2012 09:22 RevTiberius wrote:On May 23 2012 09:17 Uncultured wrote:On May 23 2012 09:12 RevTiberius wrote:
It's pretty disrespectful that EG.Incontrol keeps refering to diamond league players as "NOOBS" on your show. You guys should pay more genuine respect to your fan base You probably shouldn't get offended over peoples opinon on a completely subjective term. Less you be irritated every time someone uses the word "pro" or "skilled" or "meta" or any other wealth of words that people use in a billion different ways. I am not personally offended because I no longer play this game. I am merely surprised - though I realise I shouldn't be - how inconsiderate someone like incontrol is. By definition, diamond league players make up roughly the top 20% of the overall SC2 population leaving aside Master League and GM which are both tiny compared to the other leagues. I'm merely suggesting that incontrol still has much to learn about how to treat those people he ultimately depends on... So wait, your offended for a third party? Excuse me while I laugh my head off. Frankly, your argument is total shenanigans, as I would posit that Inc isn't being inconsiderate, "noob" doesn't mean that your a moronic idiot that doesn't know left from right, it just means, for whatever reason, you don't play SC2 at the top level currently. I'm comfortable being called a noob, I make stupid mistakes and fuck up regularly, and I think most people below pro level are okay with saying that they are varying degrees of bad. wow... so much abuse... lol... you don't seem to be able to handle the fact that some people simply don't share your point of view.
Err abuse? Lets review: I state that I find your argument silly, I restate this by calling your argument shenanigans, and to clarify here, my intention was to say that part of the reason I find your post so silly is that you are offended on behalf of an imagined third party for reasons that are quite unreasonable in themselves.
I don't think anyone thinks that could be called abuse, certainly not ad hominem.
In closing you should perhaps consider the advice you gave, that I cannot handle the fact that people don;t have the same viewpoint as mine, well guess what, you put your opinion out on a public forum and that is an option invitation to critique it, so don't suddenly act surprised when I and others call you out on holding an opinion that is not only unfounded but in addition based on the feelings of an imagined third party.
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On May 23 2012 09:57 Kerotan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 09:44 RevTiberius wrote:On May 23 2012 09:34 Kerotan wrote:On May 23 2012 09:22 RevTiberius wrote:On May 23 2012 09:17 Uncultured wrote:On May 23 2012 09:12 RevTiberius wrote:
It's pretty disrespectful that EG.Incontrol keeps refering to diamond league players as "NOOBS" on your show. You guys should pay more genuine respect to your fan base You probably shouldn't get offended over peoples opinon on a completely subjective term. Less you be irritated every time someone uses the word "pro" or "skilled" or "meta" or any other wealth of words that people use in a billion different ways. I am not personally offended because I no longer play this game. I am merely surprised - though I realise I shouldn't be - how inconsiderate someone like incontrol is. By definition, diamond league players make up roughly the top 20% of the overall SC2 population leaving aside Master League and GM which are both tiny compared to the other leagues. I'm merely suggesting that incontrol still has much to learn about how to treat those people he ultimately depends on... So wait, your offended for a third party? Excuse me while I laugh my head off. Frankly, your argument is total shenanigans, as I would posit that Inc isn't being inconsiderate, "noob" doesn't mean that your a moronic idiot that doesn't know left from right, it just means, for whatever reason, you don't play SC2 at the top level currently. I'm comfortable being called a noob, I make stupid mistakes and fuck up regularly, and I think most people below pro level are okay with saying that they are varying degrees of bad. wow... so much abuse... lol... you don't seem to be able to handle the fact that some people simply don't share your point of view. Err abuse? Lets review: I state that I find your argument silly, I restate this by calling your argument shenanigans, and to clarify here, my intention was to say that part of the reason I find your post so silly is that you are offended on behalf of an imagined third party for reasons that are quite unreasonable in themselves.I don't think anyone thinks that could be called abuse, certainly not ad hominem. In closing you should perhaps consider the advice you gave, that I cannot handle the fact that people don;t have the same viewpoint as mine, well guess what, you put your opinion out on a public forum and that is an option invitation to critique it, so don't suddenly act surprised when I and others call you out on holding an opinion that is not only unfounded but in addition based on the feelings of an imagined third party.
I've said it before and this will be my final response to you. I am not offended. If you keep putting words into my mouth I can't help you. Have a nice day
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On May 23 2012 10:01 RevTiberius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 09:57 Kerotan wrote:On May 23 2012 09:44 RevTiberius wrote:On May 23 2012 09:34 Kerotan wrote:On May 23 2012 09:22 RevTiberius wrote:On May 23 2012 09:17 Uncultured wrote:On May 23 2012 09:12 RevTiberius wrote:
It's pretty disrespectful that EG.Incontrol keeps refering to diamond league players as "NOOBS" on your show. You guys should pay more genuine respect to your fan base You probably shouldn't get offended over peoples opinon on a completely subjective term. Less you be irritated every time someone uses the word "pro" or "skilled" or "meta" or any other wealth of words that people use in a billion different ways. I am not personally offended because I no longer play this game. I am merely surprised - though I realise I shouldn't be - how inconsiderate someone like incontrol is. By definition, diamond league players make up roughly the top 20% of the overall SC2 population leaving aside Master League and GM which are both tiny compared to the other leagues. I'm merely suggesting that incontrol still has much to learn about how to treat those people he ultimately depends on... So wait, your offended for a third party? Excuse me while I laugh my head off. Frankly, your argument is total shenanigans, as I would posit that Inc isn't being inconsiderate, "noob" doesn't mean that your a moronic idiot that doesn't know left from right, it just means, for whatever reason, you don't play SC2 at the top level currently. I'm comfortable being called a noob, I make stupid mistakes and fuck up regularly, and I think most people below pro level are okay with saying that they are varying degrees of bad. wow... so much abuse... lol... you don't seem to be able to handle the fact that some people simply don't share your point of view. Err abuse? Lets review: I state that I find your argument silly, I restate this by calling your argument shenanigans, and to clarify here, my intention was to say that part of the reason I find your post so silly is that you are offended on behalf of an imagined third party for reasons that are quite unreasonable in themselves.I don't think anyone thinks that could be called abuse, certainly not ad hominem. In closing you should perhaps consider the advice you gave, that I cannot handle the fact that people don;t have the same viewpoint as mine, well guess what, you put your opinion out on a public forum and that is an option invitation to critique it, so don't suddenly act surprised when I and others call you out on holding an opinion that is not only unfounded but in addition based on the feelings of an imagined third party. I've said it before and this will be my final response to you. I am not offended. If you keep putting words into my mouth I can't help you. Have a nice day
He didn't say you were. =/ He thinks it's dumb that you're offended by something for other people who may or may not exist.
And I concur.
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On May 23 2012 10:01 RevTiberius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 09:57 Kerotan wrote:On May 23 2012 09:44 RevTiberius wrote:On May 23 2012 09:34 Kerotan wrote:On May 23 2012 09:22 RevTiberius wrote:On May 23 2012 09:17 Uncultured wrote:On May 23 2012 09:12 RevTiberius wrote:
It's pretty disrespectful that EG.Incontrol keeps refering to diamond league players as "NOOBS" on your show. You guys should pay more genuine respect to your fan base You probably shouldn't get offended over peoples opinon on a completely subjective term. Less you be irritated every time someone uses the word "pro" or "skilled" or "meta" or any other wealth of words that people use in a billion different ways. I am not personally offended because I no longer play this game. I am merely surprised - though I realise I shouldn't be - how inconsiderate someone like incontrol is. By definition, diamond league players make up roughly the top 20% of the overall SC2 population leaving aside Master League and GM which are both tiny compared to the other leagues. I'm merely suggesting that incontrol still has much to learn about how to treat those people he ultimately depends on... So wait, your offended for a third party? Excuse me while I laugh my head off. Frankly, your argument is total shenanigans, as I would posit that Inc isn't being inconsiderate, "noob" doesn't mean that your a moronic idiot that doesn't know left from right, it just means, for whatever reason, you don't play SC2 at the top level currently. I'm comfortable being called a noob, I make stupid mistakes and fuck up regularly, and I think most people below pro level are okay with saying that they are varying degrees of bad. wow... so much abuse... lol... you don't seem to be able to handle the fact that some people simply don't share your point of view. Err abuse? Lets review: I state that I find your argument silly, I restate this by calling your argument shenanigans, and to clarify here, my intention was to say that part of the reason I find your post so silly is that you are offended on behalf of an imagined third party for reasons that are quite unreasonable in themselves.I don't think anyone thinks that could be called abuse, certainly not ad hominem. In closing you should perhaps consider the advice you gave, that I cannot handle the fact that people don;t have the same viewpoint as mine, well guess what, you put your opinion out on a public forum and that is an option invitation to critique it, so don't suddenly act surprised when I and others call you out on holding an opinion that is not only unfounded but in addition based on the feelings of an imagined third party. I've said it before and this will be my final response to you. I am not offended. If you keep putting words into my mouth I can't help you. Have a nice day
hahahaha
Excuse me, I'm not meaning to put words in your mouth, so I'll restate it again, in your original post (and clarified later) you created an imagined diamond player that would be offended by Inc calling diamond players noobs, this is what being offended on behalf of someone means, and is how I used it in this context.
-ps the source of my merriment is your tone that you've taken, which is akin to if I had defiled the grave of your grand mother which hilariously inappropriate. :D
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Tired as hell, what I thought this thread was about:
![[image loading]](http://j-reso.com/images/albums/userpics/10001/normal_SD_636_Photo_006.jpg)
Oh and by the way, I think you are blowing the whole "NOOBS" thing WAY out of proportion.
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On May 23 2012 10:01 RevTiberius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 09:57 Kerotan wrote:On May 23 2012 09:44 RevTiberius wrote:On May 23 2012 09:34 Kerotan wrote:On May 23 2012 09:22 RevTiberius wrote:On May 23 2012 09:17 Uncultured wrote:On May 23 2012 09:12 RevTiberius wrote:
It's pretty disrespectful that EG.Incontrol keeps refering to diamond league players as "NOOBS" on your show. You guys should pay more genuine respect to your fan base You probably shouldn't get offended over peoples opinon on a completely subjective term. Less you be irritated every time someone uses the word "pro" or "skilled" or "meta" or any other wealth of words that people use in a billion different ways. I am not personally offended because I no longer play this game. I am merely surprised - though I realise I shouldn't be - how inconsiderate someone like incontrol is. By definition, diamond league players make up roughly the top 20% of the overall SC2 population leaving aside Master League and GM which are both tiny compared to the other leagues. I'm merely suggesting that incontrol still has much to learn about how to treat those people he ultimately depends on... So wait, your offended for a third party? Excuse me while I laugh my head off. Frankly, your argument is total shenanigans, as I would posit that Inc isn't being inconsiderate, "noob" doesn't mean that your a moronic idiot that doesn't know left from right, it just means, for whatever reason, you don't play SC2 at the top level currently. I'm comfortable being called a noob, I make stupid mistakes and fuck up regularly, and I think most people below pro level are okay with saying that they are varying degrees of bad. wow... so much abuse... lol... you don't seem to be able to handle the fact that some people simply don't share your point of view. Err abuse? Lets review: I state that I find your argument silly, I restate this by calling your argument shenanigans, and to clarify here, my intention was to say that part of the reason I find your post so silly is that you are offended on behalf of an imagined third party for reasons that are quite unreasonable in themselves.I don't think anyone thinks that could be called abuse, certainly not ad hominem. In closing you should perhaps consider the advice you gave, that I cannot handle the fact that people don;t have the same viewpoint as mine, well guess what, you put your opinion out on a public forum and that is an option invitation to critique it, so don't suddenly act surprised when I and others call you out on holding an opinion that is not only unfounded but in addition based on the feelings of an imagined third party. I've said it before and this will be my final response to you. I am not offended. If you keep putting words into my mouth I can't help you. Have a nice day
Stop getting worked up about a passing comment some guy made on a internet show, it's not important.
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Diamond league players are noobs. if they think they are not, they are delusional. Diamond league is like, division 3 football. Yeah, they are better than most people, but there are a good amount of people still better than them. They aren't playing in big time college football conferences and they certainly aren't the NFL.
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Haha people still get offended when they're called noobs.
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Lets get real here. I will explain eloquently how the term "noob" came aboout.
Back in, well a long ass time ago, just shortly after the asteroid hit that terminated the dinosaurs, there was a bad ass mole running around. This wasn't an ordinary mole, this was a fucking brown mole. You may find yourself asking, wtf is a brown mole?, well let me tell you its a fucking mole, thats brown.
Moving on now, this mole happened to be the shit at playing throw the seed into that big ass hole in the tree. All the other moles weren't quite that good. Whenever mr. brown mole would beat the other moles, they would often cry.
Mr. brown mole wasn't a mean guy, he always tried to cheer people up. To keep the other mole's from getting discouraged he would tell them " its ok, everyone is a newbie when they start."
After that, a bunch of other shit happened and we, human beings, came around. We invented the internet and somewhere between there, newb, turned to noob, which somehow tends to hurt 13 year old's feelings.
The End.
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Getting away from noob discussions, question:
Will LO3 and ITG ever be back on itunes? Anyone associated with the show please answer if you know. It sucks that they are no longer being updated on itunes because I can no longer listen in the car. Twitch app only plays live stuff.
PLEASE! Love the show, love it even more in traffic jams.
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You guys I don't believe any of you! I'm a noob and I know Incontrol still <3's me!
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