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Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
May 02 2011 19:01 GMT
#341
On May 03 2011 03:56 mpf189 wrote:
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On May 03 2011 03:55 Megatronn wrote:
I've seen IdrA get beat by MoMan a lot on ladder.


Interesting, not long ago saw Idra dominate moman on ladder twice in a row.

They might meat a lot, but up until recently I always thought MoMan's ZvZ was untouchable. Then IdrA started doing really well in ZvZ.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 02 2011 19:02 GMT
#342
On May 03 2011 03:54 Postman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 03:51 asdfTT123 wrote:
Idra = JvZ of SC2? :O

Nestea has better ZvZ, but in the non-Korean scene the only zerg that's close to Idra's ZvZ is probably Dimaga.


would love too see a Nestea vs Idra zvz. Then you could say something like that. Otherwise who knows both of their zvz's are insanely good right now ^_^.
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starfish
Profile Joined April 2011
United States102 Posts
May 02 2011 19:03 GMT
#343
On May 03 2011 03:55 BronzeKnee wrote:
I might put up 50 bucks for Idra vs CrunCher in a best of five... I wonder if they would play for that.


im sure alot of people wont even watch cruncher for $400 SM, not a fan of him, much more of dislike
Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
May 02 2011 19:03 GMT
#344
Was very cool to watch.

Although from a non zerg players PoV i have no idea why anyone wins or loses in ZvZ. It's very confusing at sometimes it even seems random (although i know it's not).

Also, every time it comes down to a baneling vs zergling micro war i find myself screaming at my monitor to "look out Sheth!"

Looking forward to any future showmatches! :D
If wishes were horses we'd be eating steak right now.
Snickersnee
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States241 Posts
May 02 2011 19:05 GMT
#345
It was really one sided :/
I really enjoyed it don't get me wrong but it felt like Idra(<3 <3 LOVE U IDRA <3 <3) was always tech faster then sheth.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
May 02 2011 19:05 GMT
#346
On May 03 2011 04:02 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 03:54 Postman wrote:
On May 03 2011 03:51 asdfTT123 wrote:
Idra = JvZ of SC2? :O

Nestea has better ZvZ, but in the non-Korean scene the only zerg that's close to Idra's ZvZ is probably Dimaga.


would love too see a Nestea vs Idra zvz. Then you could say something like that. Otherwise who knows both of their zvz's are insanely good right now ^_^.

They've played each other on IdrA's stream before, when he was on the Korean ladder. They both took games off of each other, so my guess is it's mostly a coin flip of build orders.
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Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
May 02 2011 19:06 GMT
#347
Well I think I will be going for IdrA over Sen in my NASL liquibet.

GG to both, Sheth so manner <3
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
May 02 2011 19:06 GMT
#348
On May 03 2011 04:01 Megatronn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 03:56 mpf189 wrote:
On May 03 2011 03:55 Megatronn wrote:
I've seen IdrA get beat by MoMan a lot on ladder.


Interesting, not long ago saw Idra dominate moman on ladder twice in a row.

They might meat a lot, but up until recently I always thought MoMan's ZvZ was untouchable. Then IdrA started doing really well in ZvZ.


Moman's zvz untouchable? What are you smoking lol :D
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 19:10:41
May 02 2011 19:09 GMT
#349
On May 03 2011 04:05 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 04:02 blade55555 wrote:
On May 03 2011 03:54 Postman wrote:
On May 03 2011 03:51 asdfTT123 wrote:
Idra = JvZ of SC2? :O

Nestea has better ZvZ, but in the non-Korean scene the only zerg that's close to Idra's ZvZ is probably Dimaga.


would love too see a Nestea vs Idra zvz. Then you could say something like that. Otherwise who knows both of their zvz's are insanely good right now ^_^.

They've played each other on IdrA's stream before, when he was on the Korean ladder. They both took games off of each other, so my guess is it's mostly a coin flip of build orders.


In my opinion, in ZvZ, Idra ~= Nestea ~= Dimaga. Not sure where Sen stands in this because ZvZ was a MU that gave him a lot of trouble back in Beta and was his worst by far. However, he 2-0'd Zenio recently and seems to be doing a lot better. Still, Idra's ZvZ has always been his strongest MU or tied for strongest MU. His understanding of the MU is deep and his play refined. It's the one MU that he does not seem to lose to random chance in, at least in tournaments.
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 19:14:02
May 02 2011 19:13 GMT
#350
From watching his stream a lot, idra's biggest weakness in ZvZ is the micro slip.

One small instance of 10 zerglings hitting a baneling can lose you a game.

Considering IdrA plays around 160~ APM, it's not surprising he would sometimes have a accident and lose because of this, ZvZ is arguably the most micro-intensive matchup until roaches are out, even moreso than 4gate vs 4gate protoss. Zealot/stalker are slower and beefier units in lower numbers.

EVERY zerg fails a few ZvZ games because of this though, even nestea.
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Agnosthar
Profile Joined August 2010
631 Posts
May 02 2011 19:29 GMT
#351
Even though the result never looked much in doubt, it was enjoyable to see these two players in a showmatch.

On May 03 2011 04:06 cyclone25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 04:01 Megatronn wrote:
On May 03 2011 03:56 mpf189 wrote:
On May 03 2011 03:55 Megatronn wrote:
I've seen IdrA get beat by MoMan a lot on ladder.


Interesting, not long ago saw Idra dominate moman on ladder twice in a row.

They might meat a lot, but up until recently I always thought MoMan's ZvZ was untouchable. Then IdrA started doing really well in ZvZ.


Moman's zvz untouchable? What are you smoking lol :D


I would also like to know when MoMan's ZvZ was ever looking 'untouchable'.
AskJoshy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1625 Posts
May 02 2011 19:30 GMT
#352
Hope you guys enjoyed the cast from my end. Working on the 1080p VODs now and they'll be up on http://www.youtube.com/AskJoshy in a couple of hours. =)
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TUski
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1258 Posts
May 02 2011 19:36 GMT
#353
So I heard the letter I on the keyboard is right above the letter J.

Jvz + IvZ.
Coincidence? I think not.
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Gatored
Profile Joined September 2010
United States679 Posts
May 02 2011 19:41 GMT
#354
On May 03 2011 04:03 starfish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 03:55 BronzeKnee wrote:
I might put up 50 bucks for Idra vs CrunCher in a best of five... I wonder if they would play for that.


im sure alot of people wont even watch cruncher for $400 SM, not a fan of him, much more of dislike


I love how you equate your view as everyone else's view. Just because you don't like him that means everyone else doesn't like him? Brilliant logic.

I'm willing to bet that Cruncher vs Idra would bring in way more viewers than Sheth vs Idra today.
MilesTeg
Profile Joined September 2010
France1271 Posts
May 02 2011 19:43 GMT
#355
Since it was lost in the flood of post game comments, I'll ask again if there is more information on Idra's roach speedling timing push in ZvZ? A thread? I couldn't find anything. ;
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 02 2011 19:47 GMT
#356
On May 03 2011 04:05 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 04:02 blade55555 wrote:
On May 03 2011 03:54 Postman wrote:
On May 03 2011 03:51 asdfTT123 wrote:
Idra = JvZ of SC2? :O

Nestea has better ZvZ, but in the non-Korean scene the only zerg that's close to Idra's ZvZ is probably Dimaga.


would love too see a Nestea vs Idra zvz. Then you could say something like that. Otherwise who knows both of their zvz's are insanely good right now ^_^.

They've played each other on IdrA's stream before, when he was on the Korean ladder. They both took games off of each other, so my guess is it's mostly a coin flip of build orders.


Oh yeah I know that I was more meaning a tournament/showmatch bo5 or something without latency. I mean I know that won't happen unless nestea goes too a foreign tournament and meets up with idra or vice versa. But I imagine their both pretty evenly matched against one another ^_^.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Primal666
Profile Joined November 2010
Slovenia418 Posts
May 02 2011 19:47 GMT
#357
I think idra realized just when the game starts, that he get's 300$ per hour of coaching, and only 200$ if he wins showmatch, so he went in bossmode and did it in less than an hour, just so it would be cost effecitve!
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
May 02 2011 20:02 GMT
#358
What was the final score?
Headshot
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1656 Posts
May 02 2011 20:02 GMT
#359
Where are the results for this?
-
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
May 02 2011 20:05 GMT
#360
On May 03 2011 05:02 Headshot wrote:
Where are the results for this?

Results:
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3-0 win for Idra
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