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On April 24 2011 08:24 Beyonder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 02:48 Halcyondaze wrote:
IGN is a great production. The quality is unrivaled. I do wish they could find casters that are players. The play-by-play casting may be entertaining to others but I want in the minds of the players and casting by somebody who knows what they are talking about not just some mindless babble about how this 1 stalker is doing some sick micro! and has like 4 kills! I can see that, don't need anybody to tell me Haha I agree so much with this. I'm waiting for a caster to just be silent for a while 
One of the largest complaints about the NASL is that the casters ARE players. I'm not saying Gretorp/INcontrol are bad (I like them), but what you're essentially asking for is NASL casting since I can't think of any players out there who cast at their level who also play at a high level.
I guess you can't make everybody happy.
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On April 24 2011 08:38 On_Slaught wrote:
I guess you can't make everybody happy.
This would sum up most of the complaints about every cast, regardless of what it is.
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On April 24 2011 08:24 Beyonder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 02:48 Halcyondaze wrote:
IGN is a great production. The quality is unrivaled. I do wish they could find casters that are players. The play-by-play casting may be entertaining to others but I want in the minds of the players and casting by somebody who knows what they are talking about not just some mindless babble about how this 1 stalker is doing some sick micro! and has like 4 kills! I can see that, don't need anybody to tell me Haha I agree so much with this. I'm waiting for a caster to just be silent for a while
That's something that I've always enjoyed about German soccer commentators lot of them have been commentating for so long that they know when they can just let the game speak for it's self. I think that will come to sc2 as casters become more experienced.
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On April 24 2011 08:30 asdd wrote:
Love wheats casting and I'm in grandmaster. I don't understand the hate on play by play casters by the people on tl. Great work IGN!
This. It seems that it's low to mid level players that dislike play by play, but top tier guys hate when people make wild predictions or theories about their play. Every grandmasters player I've met in person has loved my casting, but it is usually Joe platinum player that gets mad I only do play by play. :D Analysis is best when combined with play by play. For those wondering, the IPL is using this season as a test of production. Casters are doing work from their home. It's difficult for me to cast with anyone else because I live in St. Louis. However, I do believe in the effectiveness of dual casters.
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On April 24 2011 08:43 CatsPajamas wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 08:30 asdd wrote:
Love wheats casting and I'm in grandmaster. I don't understand the hate on play by play casters by the people on tl. Great work IGN! This. It seems that it's low to mid level players that dislike play by play, but top tier guys hate when people make wild predictions or theories about their play. Every grandmasters player I've met in person has loved my casting, but it is usually Joe platinum player that gets mad I only do play by play. :D Analysis is best when combined with play by play. For those wondering, the IPL is using this season as a test of production. Casters are doing work from their home. It's difficult for me to cast with anyone else because I live in St. Louis. However, I do believe in the effectiveness of dual casters.
That's usually because top-tier players have less to gain hearing analysis than lower-league players that have a lot more to learn and to gain watching a match.
If one can enjoy a match and learn from it, that's probably what they're looking for.
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Wow, they just fixed the VODs, now it's spoiler free and it's definitely a better system.
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On April 24 2011 08:38 On_Slaught wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 08:24 Beyonder wrote:On April 24 2011 02:48 Halcyondaze wrote:
IGN is a great production. The quality is unrivaled. I do wish they could find casters that are players. The play-by-play casting may be entertaining to others but I want in the minds of the players and casting by somebody who knows what they are talking about not just some mindless babble about how this 1 stalker is doing some sick micro! and has like 4 kills! I can see that, don't need anybody to tell me Haha I agree so much with this. I'm waiting for a caster to just be silent for a while One of the largest complaints about the NASL is that the casters ARE players. I'm not saying Gretorp/INcontrol are bad (I like them), but what you're essentially asking for is NASL casting since I can't think of any players out there who cast at their level who also play at a high level. I guess you can't make everybody happy.
The criticism is not that they are players, its that they aren't seasoned casters. But give it a month or so of casting every day and they will get better.... They have a solid foundation in depth game knowledge and the casting skill will come really easily because of that. Its a LOT harder to have good casting skills and try to pick up game knowledge over time.
EDIT (no you can't make everyone happy, but saying that seems like a self-righteous cop out in a lot of situations, you can always make more people happy than you currently do ^_^ (or at least thats the attitude a person taking criticism should have))
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On April 24 2011 08:47 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Wow, they just fixed the VODs, now it's spoiler free and it's definitely a better system.
Yup, check them out at http://www.ign.com/ipl/videos !
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Hey guys just wanted to let everyone know that I really appreciate the support. This is my first time casting any sort of major event and I'm loving the reception. Also glad everyone is loving the IPL in general I think it has a ton of potential.
That being said I think people should stop comparing IPL to NASL/GSL etc. All of these organizations are promoting something we love I feel we should be content to support them all. Also as far as the casting critiques try to keep it positive/informative, I can speak personally when I say it hurts for someone to bash your final casting product and there isn't anything you can learn from someone saying "YOU HAVE NO GAME KNOWLEDGE"
Try to give constructive criticism.
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Great production, uninteresting games so far.
Also didn't like the solo biscuit deal goin on.
Only if NASL had production like these guys with their setup of players and tournament.... =/
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Edit: weird double post. Please delete.
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Really surprising level of quality, just showing some love for the production value going on here.
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On April 24 2011 02:48 Halcyondaze wrote:
IGN is a great production. The quality is unrivaled. I do wish they could find casters that are players. The play-by-play casting may be entertaining to others but I want in the minds of the players and casting by somebody who knows what they are talking about not just some mindless babble about how this 1 stalker is doing some sick micro! and has like 4 kills! I can see that, don't need anybody to tell me
Yeah, I agree. As much as I like having distinguished casters calling the play-by-play, there something is still missing. PainUser's analysis is ok, I guess. I expected a little more out of him to be honest. With the rest of the commentator's, its more along the lines of, "Yes, let's get excited and call the play-by-play." Play-by-play is fine, but you need some color. It's not an easy job when you get one bo3 to cast in each round and your doing it solo. I understand that. We have to keep in mind, they're trying to market this towards the general, populace gamer as well.
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After seeing this thread i tuned in to check it out.
ITS AWESOME ! Its just like i expected the NASL to be. I hope NASL learns from IGN and gets as good as this. It really means something, when your production is better than TSL3 (Best Online Production until now).
Great!
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IPL blows the feat with the competition. This production value is bloody off the charts
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Any1 know what the song is that plays on the commercial where its about black market prices? sounds familiar
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The league is amazing I love it. Amazing production. The people behind it must of brain stormed like mad mans
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I don't know if anyone else feels this way; but when I hear TotalBisquit commentating, I feel as though I should be laughing... in a good way. Much love to the IGN guys... and TotalBisquit.
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IGN showing us the way forward, I love it! And this is only a trial run too O_o
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How do you view vods from previous days?
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