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Riaelyn
Profile Joined December 2010
United States41 Posts
April 22 2011 02:09 GMT
#201
Seriously, the production value is absolutely astounding. I hope this keeps going.
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AndreiDaGiant
Profile Joined October 2010
United States394 Posts
April 22 2011 02:09 GMT
#202
really like the production quality of the ipl but i definitely think they need some analytical casters...
Terran Metal for the Win
devlb21
Profile Joined May 2010
United States20 Posts
April 22 2011 02:10 GMT
#203
On April 22 2011 11:08 Voltaire wrote:
Even IGN isn't perfect, they just played the Kiwikaki vs Stalife voiceover with Rootcatz vs LGagh on the screen.


first mistake of the night 5 games in? not bad imo.
Terr
Profile Joined October 2010
237 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 02:12:52
April 22 2011 02:10 GMT
#204
On April 22 2011 11:08 Voltaire wrote:
Even IGN isn't perfect, they just played the Kiwikaki vs Stalife voiceover with Rootcatz vs LGagh on the screen.

Small things like that happen to everybody. No big deal, not even worth mentioning.
"How peaceful it must be for you, to have a mind unburdened by thought." - Protoss Zealot
TyPsi5
Profile Joined May 2010
United States204 Posts
April 22 2011 02:10 GMT
#205
On April 22 2011 10:57 Ezze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2011 10:52 TyPsi5 wrote:
On April 22 2011 10:48 FakePlasticLove wrote:
On April 22 2011 10:47 SKC wrote:
On April 22 2011 10:41 Dommk wrote:
On April 22 2011 10:35 divito wrote:
On April 22 2011 10:29 Doodsmack wrote:
Also, it seems like some people in here don't want NASL to succeed. It's not about one over the other, guys.

It's not about not wanting NASL to succeed. Everyone wants great matches, features and competition for the hobby that we all enjoy. NASL so far has fell very short of the hype that was around it and what a lot of people were hoping for and expecting.

IGN in comparison, for production values and other associated markers, is incredibly above the quality that NASL has put out so far. It just seems like the disparity is great between that which is put out by amateurs trying to be professional, and those that have put in a great deal of time and chose intelligent avenues to go down.

That is true, but the thing is, IGN isn't playing these games day by day, IIRC, these games were done 1/2 weeks ago so they had quite a lot of time to prepare... Don't think it is quite fair to compare the production value because NASL only has a day or two to get everything ready for the next show...


Honestly, this may be a little harsh, but does it really matter? What matters is what is more enjoyable and more succesfull. If NASL chose a system they cant handle and would be more sucessful with another system, it's their fault, and if they would attract more viewers as a smaller league, perhaps they shouldn't have tried to grow that big that fast. Still, they may fix a lot of things and stop looking this bad, so it may be too soon to say it was a mistake.

This. To the viewer, IPL blows NASL out of the water.


blows NASL out of the water? maybe to you..

it got turned off as soon as TB came on..


Take a look at the viewer count. TB is loved by many whether he appeals to you personally or not. Wheat is also a great caster and the IPL is so far amazing and noone can deny that it's making the NASL league look terrible especially considering they're trying to charge $25 for their service.


Noone can deny its making NASL look terrible? Uh huh.... well..

Firstly, I don't think the viewer count on IGN's first day is indicative of anything.. NASL had more viewers on their first day. But IGN is new an exciting so naturally ppl are going to watch it on the first day.

Secondly, it takes more than some cool transitions and graphics to make a good show for me. Personally, if a game isn't being cast, I'm not watching so I could give two shits what kinds of cool production value they have.

Thirdly, you don't need to pay $25 to watch NASL. You can if you want HD, but I have to watch both streams on <720p otherwise it lags uncontrollably so your point is valid for people who have awesome bandwidth.

Fourthly, solo casters? DJ Wheat? TB? You can keep all that... I mean I love DJ Wheat, but I prefer casters that have high level insight. These guys can only do the play by play.. I don't need that done for me..

My crux is that I care about what happens between when the game starts and the gg. Because of this.. NASL blows IGN out of the water.

That being said.. IGN is looking good -hopefully they continue after this season. Should be good for western esports
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
April 22 2011 02:10 GMT
#206
AMAZING PRODUCTION

Thumbs way up for getting Totalbiscuit to cast!
Staboteur
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada1873 Posts
April 22 2011 02:10 GMT
#207
It's like both NASL and IGNPL did their placement matches, and NASL got dropped into gold while IGNPL burst straight into grandmasters.

For now, Ive got both eyes on IGN, but that doesn't mean I won't be watching for how good NASL gets in 1-2 months ^^
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Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
April 22 2011 02:11 GMT
#208
On April 22 2011 11:06 jhsu98 wrote:
@Jayrod, you're 100% correct it's true that these play-by-play casters are much more accessible for the overwhelming majority of people, ESPECIALLY people who are not well versed in SC2. But for those of us who are it's a little painful...then again i'm sure that's how any sport + casters are


I feel like sports casters are generally a balanced pair as I mentioned above but it's important to note that most sports aren't as technical as Starcraft so it's not a huge deal. A good comparison is Poker though, if you take a look at some of the casting from the World Series of Poker, there is a caster who focuses on the players, backgrounds, jokes and another who focuses on the cards, the plays, yada yada...

It's about striking a balance to appease the new audience and the hardcore fans.
Downside
Profile Joined February 2011
173 Posts
April 22 2011 02:11 GMT
#209
Really got to give props to IPL for having such an astoundingly good first go, and just when I was thinking how I couldn't justify paying for leagues outside of GSL with NA leagues having free streams at times that are reasonable. This league however is just the kind of thing that might make me change my mind. Grats to everyone involved on creating such a strong first impression.
BaronFel
Profile Joined July 2009
United States155 Posts
April 22 2011 02:11 GMT
#210
I'm really really impressed. I think the quality of stream, the fast games, the production pre and post game and the free vods, it's really impressive. I think this is the perfect setup to try to get casual viewers (Which IGN is probably aiming for as their user-base isn't all sc2) into the scene. Really well done.
JediGamer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States656 Posts
April 22 2011 02:12 GMT
#211
Great, exceptional quality. However TotalBiscuit might be loud but he sure isn't knowledgeable. Same with DJWheat.
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Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
April 22 2011 02:12 GMT
#212
They put a lot of time in this for sure. Love the quality of the stream. Not too big a fan of the commentators. But I've never really been a fan of husky or djweat. Still theyre doing quite well. Keep in mind though NASL has about 1 and a half day to make their content while this has been played atleast a week before.
CarachAngren
Profile Joined January 2011
United States84 Posts
April 22 2011 02:12 GMT
#213
This is awesome. I love the little graphics and the overlay. It's different and makes it a little more upbeat. Reminds me of street fighter and really emphasizes the individuals battling it out! Great casters, no useless talk inbetween, just good games and very straightforward.
raist
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada90 Posts
April 22 2011 02:12 GMT
#214
I have to admit I was a little bit of a NASL fanboy, but man........ nasl doesn't even come close to this, it exceeds it by leaps and bounds and it's only the first day.

Great job guys, I love (and hate) the amount of SC there is to watch
Go Jinro!!
Chimpalimp
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1135 Posts
April 22 2011 02:12 GMT
#215
Good production, but bad commentary imo. The analyst is more valuable than a shout caster, and all they have are shout casters.
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Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 02:13:36
April 22 2011 02:13 GMT
#216
For all the effort and production quality for this Pro League.is awesome.... the grand prize is a total lump sum of $5000.......

I just want to point out guys, let's not bandwagon on IGN over NASL, these guys are testing the waters with a $5000 event, NASL has committed $400,000 over THREE Seasons. I'd rather watch amazing games over production value any-day, but I'll give it to IGN, they are doing a good job and I'll continue to support them as well.
Resilient
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom1431 Posts
April 22 2011 02:13 GMT
#217
IPL impresses me almost as much as the recent Dreamhack invitational. Going to follow this very closely for sure.
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
April 22 2011 02:13 GMT
#218
Wow. This is GSL level quality. The only thing missing is a pro-level dual casting team. I thought they were getting PainUser to do commentary, or am I thinking of something else?
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LanTAs
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1091 Posts
April 22 2011 02:13 GMT
#219
IPL is just sexy, the casters are amazing but the games arent top notch like the NASL, oh and the production is 10x better than NASL.

i still love InControl casting though ^.^
Mephiztopheles1
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1124 Posts
April 22 2011 02:13 GMT
#220
On April 22 2011 11:09 FearGorm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2011 10:55 Mephiztopheles1 wrote:
Very nice from the IPL, but people trash talking the NASL are seriously getting out of proportion... not even GOM has this kind of production, and it's simple enough why: Rupert Murdoch. If you can't really see the difference that was to be expected between a Rupert Murdoch owned company and seven amateur esports fans, no matter how you try to spin it, what you're saying is that you want the NASL to fail. Unless what you're trying to say is that you want all media billionaires in the world to get into esports. In that case, I'm all ears as to how you're going to do it.

Still, we should keep being nice to the IPL so they spoil us more, that way even GOM may fear going down in the pecking order of the community, 'cause really, half of what keeps GOM up there is Tastosis

Edit: ^^^ You know, some people don't want to know what you just said...


As has been said several times, this event was produced by the team at WellPlayed.org. None of us are paid.

I see. I take back what I said then.

Then that begs the question, you also work with the NASL, what's up with the "humongous" difference in perceived quality?
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