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Natus Vincere announces SC2 division

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DOOMy0
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark85 Posts
April 11 2011 12:29 GMT
#1
From their website:

Na`Vi.SC2 lineup:

* Denis "(T)Hireling" Shubkovskiy (teamleader)
* Svyatoslav "(Z)HappyZerG" Vlasyuk
* Aleksander "(Z)ALF" Yatsenko
* Vasiliy "CrazyPanda" Kuznetsov
* Jon "(P)BabyKnight" Andersen

Full news post and statements: http://navi-gaming.com/news_show.php?news_id=7621
DOOMy0
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark85 Posts
April 11 2011 12:30 GMT
#2
woops, posted in wrong section.. sorry
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42516 Posts
April 11 2011 12:31 GMT
#3
Moved to sc2. The only name I really recognise there is the TSL2 abuser HappyZerG.
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Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
April 11 2011 12:31 GMT
#4
Any infos on the players? Have never heard of them.

But NaVi's Dota and CS teams were sick. So they gotta have some talent.
Always smile~
tangwhat
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand446 Posts
April 11 2011 12:33 GMT
#5
BabyKnight was a well known DotA player. He also used to stream a lot of SC2 during beta.
.Enigma.
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1461 Posts
April 11 2011 12:33 GMT
#6
Never heard of any of them, good luck though!
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Incanus
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada695 Posts
April 11 2011 12:35 GMT
#7
Some nice oldschool players in there, interested to see how they do in SC2!
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Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
April 11 2011 12:37 GMT
#8
Looks like a similar attempt to SK in building up a squad with relative unknowns. But again similar to SK I don`t see this working out.
Was always thinking they would try to sign some of the ukrainian big 4 (Strelok, Kas, Dimaga or White_Ra)
daytrippers
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden223 Posts
April 11 2011 12:37 GMT
#9
if only SC2 had a shadowfiend unit for babyknight
PeaNuT_T
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden326 Posts
April 11 2011 12:55 GMT
#10
Babyknight such a sick DotA player
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Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
April 11 2011 12:58 GMT
#11
Babyknight is one of te best dota players in europe. Sick.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9015 Posts
April 11 2011 12:59 GMT
#12
I remember ALF the Ukraine from BW. And of course BabyKnight from Dota, but I really doubt Dota skills mean anything in SC2.
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4725 Posts
April 11 2011 12:59 GMT
#13
Somehow i dont see them performing on the same level Na'Vi cs team.....But they might suprise us.
Pathetic Greta hater.
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
April 11 2011 13:00 GMT
#14
On April 11 2011 21:37 Irrational_Animal wrote:
Looks like a similar attempt to SK in building up a squad with relative unknowns. But again similar to SK I don`t see this working out.
Was always thinking they would try to sign some of the ukrainian big 4 (Strelok, Kas, Dimaga or White_Ra)

Indeed. It is saddening to see such a huge organization not only enter the scene super late but also hire only unknown to semi-unknown players. It's a gamble.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
April 11 2011 13:03 GMT
#15
I thought guys like Kas/Happy would be on this. Saddened now.
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
April 11 2011 13:03 GMT
#16
On April 11 2011 22:00 Puosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 21:37 Irrational_Animal wrote:
Looks like a similar attempt to SK in building up a squad with relative unknowns. But again similar to SK I don`t see this working out.
Was always thinking they would try to sign some of the ukrainian big 4 (Strelok, Kas, Dimaga or White_Ra)

Indeed. It is saddening to see such a huge organization not only enter the scene super late but also hire only unknown to semi-unknown players. It's a gamble.


There are some pretty "unknown" players smashing known ones in the TSL, maybe (probably) these guys know something we don't.
b_unnies
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
3579 Posts
April 11 2011 13:04 GMT
#17
wasnt ALF a top BW foreigner?
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51431 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-11 13:10:35
April 11 2011 13:10 GMT
#18
i guess dimaga/strelok/white-ra/kas will be targeted by navi when their current contracts expire with their current teams
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eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
April 11 2011 13:11 GMT
#19
On April 11 2011 22:04 b_unnies wrote:
wasnt ALF a top BW foreigner?


Yes he was, maybe not the very top, but certainly was a Division 1 player.
Cenja
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden498 Posts
April 11 2011 13:18 GMT
#20
I thought Na'Vi would sign the top Ukraine players and be huge in SC2 as they are in CS, oh well
Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new.
TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
April 11 2011 13:18 GMT
#21
On April 11 2011 22:03 Zorkmid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 22:00 Puosu wrote:
On April 11 2011 21:37 Irrational_Animal wrote:
Looks like a similar attempt to SK in building up a squad with relative unknowns. But again similar to SK I don`t see this working out.
Was always thinking they would try to sign some of the ukrainian big 4 (Strelok, Kas, Dimaga or White_Ra)

Indeed. It is saddening to see such a huge organization not only enter the scene super late but also hire only unknown to semi-unknown players. It's a gamble.


There are some pretty "unknown" players smashing known ones in the TSL, maybe (probably) these guys know something we don't.


I'd argue that while some persons like Thorzain were not that well known, they have been established high level players all the time, maybe not as much known to the more casual spectator but skillwise on top.

These players are definitely a tier behind the top players - which can change quickly if they are provided with enough support to play full time (which I think the players from SK aren't)
zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-11 13:19:31
April 11 2011 13:18 GMT
#22
There are some skilled Ukrainian players scattered around across European teams, so maybe, with a money injection, they can lure some of them in in order to strengthen their lineup.
But whereas I understand that NaVi is quite a name in Counterstrike, for now I highly doubt they can set foot into the top tier of the Eastern European teams that are ImbaFXO, RoX and Empire. These teams must be the line of measurement for NaVi in the future.
Nonetheless, good lock to NaVi, it's always good to see some big esport-names taking interest in SC2.
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dahornnn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom395 Posts
April 11 2011 13:23 GMT
#23
The arbalet guy who supported the navi cs team with anything want is stopping his support at the end of this year i do believe i read...... so maybe NaVi can't afford the big 4 without the richman?
interested to see how they do however
DOOMy0
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark85 Posts
April 11 2011 13:29 GMT
#24
On April 11 2011 22:23 dahornnn wrote:
The arbalet guy who supported the navi cs team with anything want is stopping his support at the end of this year i do believe i read...... so maybe NaVi can't afford the big 4 without the richman?
interested to see how they do however

correct
Galek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Poland234 Posts
April 11 2011 13:30 GMT
#25
Babyknight? DotA Babyknight? This guy used to have some sick SF play, curious to see him play SC2 now.
Welmu
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Finland3295 Posts
April 11 2011 13:45 GMT
#26
On April 11 2011 22:10 GTR wrote:
i guess dimaga/strelok/white-ra/kas will be targeted by navi when their current contracts expire with their current teams

Almost every contract can be breaken super easily so I don't think it is the issue...
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OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
April 11 2011 13:50 GMT
#27
On April 11 2011 22:30 Galek wrote:
Babyknight? DotA Babyknight? This guy used to have some sick SF play, curious to see him play SC2 now.

He's very ... Average. He does sometime stream at TL, so watch him
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
KaveX
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany59 Posts
April 11 2011 13:52 GMT
#28
On April 11 2011 22:45 Welmu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 22:10 GTR wrote:
i guess dimaga/strelok/white-ra/kas will be targeted by navi when their current contracts expire with their current teams

Almost every contract can be breaken super easily so I don't think it is the issue...

This statement is absolutely untrue. There have been numerous times when players got in trouble because of existing contracts, and so far they always turned out to be valid.
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Special Endrey
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1929 Posts
April 11 2011 13:54 GMT
#29
well about happyzerg - i casted 30-40 games when he was playing in my or other tours here on the EU server - good, solid zerg play -nothing too fancy tho and about navi targeting empire people + dimaga - i would not be too sure about it - empire is gaining more and more fame atm with the recent success (kas stomping tsl) and newest additions (nerchio, happy etc.)



but ill guess ... time will tell
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Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
April 11 2011 13:55 GMT
#30
Is Arbalet still sponsoring Na`Vi?
I heard that he only sponsoring Na`Vi CS team until 2011.
Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
April 11 2011 13:56 GMT
#31
Thought this would be cool since their CS team was pretty good... Don't recognize any of those players...
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Kaitokid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1327 Posts
April 11 2011 13:57 GMT
#32
Is CrazyPanda BratOK's brother?
NotSupporting
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1998 Posts
April 11 2011 13:58 GMT
#33
On April 11 2011 21:31 KwarK wrote:
Moved to sc2. The only name I really recognise there is the TSL2 abuser HappyZerG.


Same here. I think i have seen happyzerg doing fairly good on the ladder, never heared of the other guys.
aLuLz
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany175 Posts
April 11 2011 14:00 GMT
#34
On April 11 2011 22:54 Special Endrey wrote:
well about happyzerg - i casted 30-40 games when he was playing in my or other tours here on the EU server - good, solid zerg play -nothing too fancy tho and about navi targeting empire people + dimaga - i would not be too sure about it - empire is gaining more and more fame atm with the recent success (kas stomping tsl) and newest additions (nerchio, happy etc.)



but ill guess ... time will tell


Indeed. And i dont think that NaVi will offer that much money that whitera would leave his contract with duckload even tho navi has one of the best cs-teams in the world.
126Q;A1
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden517 Posts
April 11 2011 14:00 GMT
#35
On April 11 2011 21:37 Irrational_Animal wrote:
Was always thinking they would try to sign some of the ukrainian big 4 (Strelok, Kas, Dimaga or White_Ra)


Na`Vi CEO ZeroGravity has talked about this in interviews before hinted that it's unlikely due to transfer fees and such. Here's an interview from IEM Kiev which touches on the subject: http://www.rakaka.se/index.php?newsID=15947
jaedong: "I play Counter-Strike and that is the only game I like to follow [...] my favorite team is WeMade FOX but I also like SK and fnatic."
whiteLotus
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
1833 Posts
April 11 2011 14:08 GMT
#36
erm to guys who are talking about navi signing big ukrainian players, they realy cant, Arbalet is only going to support na`navi till the end of 2011, so i doubt that they could offer more money to those big ukrainian players than they'r current teams.
The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame
Welmu
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Finland3295 Posts
April 11 2011 14:10 GMT
#37
On April 11 2011 22:52 KaveX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 22:45 Welmu wrote:
On April 11 2011 22:10 GTR wrote:
i guess dimaga/strelok/white-ra/kas will be targeted by navi when their current contracts expire with their current teams

Almost every contract can be breaken super easily so I don't think it is the issue...

This statement is absolutely untrue. There have been numerous times when players got in trouble because of existing contracts, and so far they always turned out to be valid.

There should be statement in rule that says the price of breaking contract, which shouldn't be too much
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
April 11 2011 14:19 GMT
#38
On April 11 2011 22:00 Puosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 21:37 Irrational_Animal wrote:
Looks like a similar attempt to SK in building up a squad with relative unknowns. But again similar to SK I don`t see this working out.
Was always thinking they would try to sign some of the ukrainian big 4 (Strelok, Kas, Dimaga or White_Ra)

Indeed. It is saddening to see such a huge organization not only enter the scene super late but also hire only unknown to semi-unknown players. It's a gamble.


I too expected them to grab some big name players. That said Na'Vi is far from a huge organization yet, they were build off of their CS team and have a big name rich singular sponsor in the Arbalet family, but they are by no means an established G7-esque team like SK is.

It's too bad they couldn't grab all the ukrainian players, would have been super super epic.
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dahornnn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom395 Posts
April 11 2011 15:07 GMT
#39
On April 11 2011 23:10 Welmu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 22:52 KaveX wrote:
On April 11 2011 22:45 Welmu wrote:
On April 11 2011 22:10 GTR wrote:
i guess dimaga/strelok/white-ra/kas will be targeted by navi when their current contracts expire with their current teams

Almost every contract can be breaken super easily so I don't think it is the issue...

This statement is absolutely untrue. There have been numerous times when players got in trouble because of existing contracts, and so far they always turned out to be valid.

There should be statement in rule that says the price of breaking contract, which shouldn't be too much

Its a lot more than it should be to buy players for esports thats for sure ( if thats what you meant)
G7 teams = 10k buyout ;O iirc
Nizzy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States839 Posts
April 11 2011 15:14 GMT
#40
SUPER cool logo, the 'NAVI" design, I like it.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
April 11 2011 15:15 GMT
#41
On April 11 2011 22:10 GTR wrote:
i guess dimaga/strelok/white-ra/kas will be targeted by navi when their current contracts expire with their current teams

I'd like to hope so too. Kinda disappointed thus far with the line-up.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
kommunalka
Profile Joined February 2011
United States550 Posts
April 11 2011 15:27 GMT
#42
Now I can finally bring my NA'VI mouse pad to SC2 LANs
rG
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 11 2011 15:31 GMT
#43
On April 11 2011 22:18 zere wrote:
There are some skilled Ukrainian players scattered around across European teams, so maybe, with a money injection, they can lure some of them in in order to strengthen their lineup.
But whereas I understand that NaVi is quite a name in Counterstrike, for now I highly doubt they can set foot into the top tier of the Eastern European teams that are ImbaFXO, RoX and Empire. These teams must be the line of measurement for NaVi in the future.
Nonetheless, good lock to NaVi, it's always good to see some big esport-names taking interest in SC2.


I looked up imba.FXO in tlpd, and it's apparently a separate team from the main FXO team - why does that company sponsor two different sc2 teams? I've never heard of their players, is imba.FXO maybe some kind of multi-gaming clan with an sc2 offshoot?
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YoucriedWolf
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
April 11 2011 15:35 GMT
#44
Na'vi management were very vocal about the fact that player transfers are "impossible" in sc2 because the teams grossly overvalue their players and with all the ukrainian superstars beeing tied up in other organizations this was really all that Na'vi could do. Even so I will admit that I'm somehow can't help but to share fellow netizens dissapointment.

I'm sure we will see great things from Na'vi in the future.
Vo-one
Profile Joined June 2003
Ukraine456 Posts
December 28 2011 08:50 GMT
#45
(Wiki)NaViSlaViK seems like is leaving Natus Vincere SC2 team.
Yesterday he posted on his twitter "Looking for a team ^^"source. And today he wrote "Stream online! :D Getting new channel soon <...>" source.

I don't want to make a new topic till the official statement is released and it's coming soon.
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