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CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 21:09:59
March 14 2011 20:58 GMT
#1
I've decided to release a good sized replay pack of recent games I've had to help promote the new team I've joined called The KiwiClone Army!

Our team has set up a stream at Justin.tv and we have the ad viewership deal, so that means if we stream and get a lot of viewers, you viewing the stream actually directly supports The KiwiClone Army financially! The revenue generated could potentially help pay for new team gear or flight tickets to LAN events. So check out our stream to support us the next time you see it in the streams list!

+ Show Spoiler [KiwiClone Army Info!] +
The KiwiClone Army's Site

Here is my team's main lineup:
(Z)Pono         (~3200 masters NA, 2500 masters KR)
(Z)Bad ( 3500 masters NA, ? KR)
(P)CecilSunkure (~3500 masters NA, 800? diamond KR)
(P)Wannabecool ( 4000 masters NA, 2000 masters KR)
(T)mizore ( 3200 +400 bonus pool masters NA, 1900 masters KR)
(T)SiN (~4000 masters NA)

Link to Stream - We'll be streaming ladder and practice sessions. When I stream I enjoy interacting with the chat while providing insight to the games I've played.

Feel free to ask any questions about my play in this thread, and I'll gladly answer them. Here are some unique characteristics of my play you might find interesting:
  • PvP - I never 4 gate, and I still play successfully at high Masters level.
  • PvZ - Hardly ever 6 gate as I feel gateway unit pushes are weak in general. I also try to avoid colossus and templar, as I find using immortals and voidrays very fun!
  • PvT - I have recently adopted a very aggressive style of PvT, where I utilize heavy aggression while taking my natural as well as using large offensives with sentries. Overall, I use sentries quite a bit in PvT to an interesting degree.

Replay pack: >> <<
Grimez
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands5 Posts
March 14 2011 22:24 GMT
#2
Hey man, thanks for releasing those replays, I'll be looking in to them to see if there is stuff I can learn from, I'm mostly interested in your PvP, seeing as you stated that you never 4 gate. I wish you and your team the best of luck gaining sponsorship money to go to those tournaments and stuff.
imba
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
March 14 2011 22:55 GMT
#3
Wow thanks! I was kinda scared nobody was going to post replies to this topic D:
WindOw
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden407 Posts
March 14 2011 23:00 GMT
#4
Maybe tl ough to make a own topic for rep packs.... anyway ill probably check some games out
AKA WindOw[InCa] (BW) | TheMisT (SC2) | NaNiwa FC founder
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
March 14 2011 23:02 GMT
#5
nice. interested to see your PvP style, im sick of 4gating
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
March 14 2011 23:03 GMT
#6
On March 15 2011 08:02 L3g3nd_ wrote:
nice. interested to see your PvP style, im sick of 4gating

I've been working on that popularized 3 Stalker build, trying to find a good time and a good way to go stargate tech without dieing, but haven't gotten something extremely solid yet. Although the things I do should wreck all players in lower levels
majestouch
Profile Joined December 2010
United States395 Posts
March 14 2011 23:04 GMT
#7
i wonder if there are any games in there of me 8pooling you....

if any reps in that pack cecil gets 8pooled by the illustrious bluewaffle. i would be it.

cool stuffs dawg.
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
March 14 2011 23:10 GMT
#8
On March 15 2011 08:04 majestouch wrote:
i wonder if there are any games in there of me 8pooling you....

if any reps in that pack cecil gets 8pooled by the illustrious bluewaffle. i would be it.

cool stuffs dawg.

No I actually didn't record those TT

But yeah bluewaffle is a pretty good zerg. Lost twice in a row to him on ladder.
Dhalphir
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1305 Posts
March 15 2011 00:13 GMT
#9
Loaded up all these replays into a folder to watch soon! Looking forward to gaining some insight.
Supporting TypeII Gaming - www.typeii.net - TypeReaL, TypePhoeNix, TypeSuN, TypeDBS!!
.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
March 15 2011 00:37 GMT
#10
stealing your stuff right now

thanks thanks thanks thanks
RubikPi
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7 Posts
March 15 2011 01:19 GMT
#11
"PvP - I never 4 gate, and I still play successfully at high Masters level."

I love you <3 Have been trying (quite unsuccessfully) to avoid defending 4 gate with another 4 gate, so I'm definitely looking forward to looking these over. Thank you
-Shade-
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia11 Posts
March 15 2011 01:33 GMT
#12
Omg thank you finally a PvP strat which doesn't revolve around the 4 gate rush!

Much <3
Day[9] made me do it :)
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
March 15 2011 01:56 GMT
#13
I'm surprised most people are interested in the PvP. I've written a few wiki pages about some nice PvP openings which detail exactly what I do
Jayrod
Profile Joined August 2010
1820 Posts
March 15 2011 02:32 GMT
#14
i downloaded this strictly for the PvPs. Difficult MU
Eleaven
Profile Joined September 2010
772 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 02:59:10
March 15 2011 02:35 GMT
#15
Should be cool to see some alternative PvP builds, hope i can emulate them a bit. thanks


edit. Just gone through one of the PvP's on Xel naga.. Fantastic building placement :O totally reworked the way i think about my base layout
Cryogenic
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada75 Posts
March 15 2011 03:04 GMT
#16
I too am going to download this, because PvP is such a headache. The only matchup I have trouble with. Thanks Cecil!
"If you don't go after what you want, you'll never have it. If you don't ask, the answer is always no. If you don't step forward, you're always in the same place." - Nora Roberts .:| Scarlett |:.
Noyjeetut
Profile Joined March 2011
2 Posts
March 15 2011 03:23 GMT
#17
CecilSunkure, I was wondering when you do your PvP 3 stalker into robo build what would you do if the toss were to steal your gas? If you went zealot to destroy the gas would you then just transition into a 4gate to counter their 4gate?
RubikPi
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7 Posts
March 15 2011 04:03 GMT
#18
On March 15 2011 12:23 Noyjeetut wrote:
CecilSunkure, I was wondering when you do your PvP 3 stalker into robo build what would you do if the toss were to steal your gas? If you went zealot to destroy the gas would you then just transition into a 4gate to counter their 4gate?

In Replay #356 of this replay pack the other toss does steal his second gas on Shat Temple. He pulls two probes off to kill it, then with just the zealot when it arrives. He continued on his 2 gate robo build though and pulled the game out. While there was a lucky timing that helped him, it still seemed pretty solid. (Lucky timing of killing a pylon just (within a second) before a few enemy toss units warped in on it)
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 05:38:47
March 15 2011 05:37 GMT
#19
On March 15 2011 13:03 RubikPi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 12:23 Noyjeetut wrote:
CecilSunkure, I was wondering when you do your PvP 3 stalker into robo build what would you do if the toss were to steal your gas? If you went zealot to destroy the gas would you then just transition into a 4gate to counter their 4gate?

In Replay #356 of this replay pack the other toss does steal his second gas on Shat Temple. He pulls two probes off to kill it, then with just the zealot when it arrives. He continued on his 2 gate robo build though and pulled the game out. While there was a lucky timing that helped him, it still seemed pretty solid. (Lucky timing of killing a pylon just (within a second) before a few enemy toss units warped in on it)

It was actually a calculated risk. I could have kept 2 stalkers and a zealot on the pylon, but instead chased the probe with my other stalker to see where more proxy pylons would be laid.


On March 15 2011 11:35 Eleaven wrote:
Should be cool to see some alternative PvP builds, hope i can emulate them a bit. thanks


edit. Just gone through one of the PvP's on Xel naga.. Fantastic building placement :O totally reworked the way i think about my base layout

Thanks, glad to know my play helped you out!
Noyjeetut
Profile Joined March 2011
2 Posts
March 15 2011 05:49 GMT
#20
On March 15 2011 13:03 RubikPi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 12:23 Noyjeetut wrote:
CecilSunkure, I was wondering when you do your PvP 3 stalker into robo build what would you do if the toss were to steal your gas? If you went zealot to destroy the gas would you then just transition into a 4gate to counter their 4gate?

In Replay #356 of this replay pack the other toss does steal his second gas on Shat Temple. He pulls two probes off to kill it, then with just the zealot when it arrives. He continued on his 2 gate robo build though and pulled the game out. While there was a lucky timing that helped him, it still seemed pretty solid. (Lucky timing of killing a pylon just (within a second) before a few enemy toss units warped in on it)



Thanks
SiN]
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States540 Posts
March 15 2011 21:07 GMT
#21
Now im even more confused as to how to beat protoss
iamke55
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States2806 Posts
March 16 2011 07:34 GMT
#22
This guy made guides for 2 builds in Liquipedia so you know he's good
During practice session, I discovered very good build against zerg. -Bisu[Shield]
Spacekyod
Profile Joined December 2010
United States818 Posts
March 16 2011 07:43 GMT
#23
Much thanks for the rep pack! Looking forward to picking up a thing or two from your play.
Riders of the Plastic Groove. "When all-in fails, all-in again!" Finally... Make way for the real DONG!
shaunnn
Profile Joined October 2010
Ireland1230 Posts
March 16 2011 07:53 GMT
#24
Interested to see your pvp games, thanks alot
The naniwa - Unit of protoss skill, defined as the number of gates you build off of one base
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
March 16 2011 07:53 GMT
#25
Whoa thanks for the replays! It's always nice to get some high level Protoss replays. And your strats seems really cool! Gonna check them out asap
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
xrayEU
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden571 Posts
March 16 2011 07:57 GMT
#26
I'll definitely DL this pack when i get home
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
March 16 2011 08:29 GMT
#27
Hey thanks you all! Do let me know of any questions you have, and be sure to check out my team's stream next time you see it in the list :D
BloomFilter
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland240 Posts
March 16 2011 12:34 GMT
#28
This replay pack is also available here http://drop.sc/packs/40.

PS. @Cecil, No need to convert to ZIP, drop.sc supports 7z now too.
Living to learn. Learning to live.
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
March 16 2011 20:12 GMT
#29
On March 16 2011 21:34 BloomFilter wrote:
This replay pack is also available here http://drop.sc/packs/40.

PS. @Cecil, No need to convert to ZIP, drop.sc supports 7z now too.

That's actually a really interesting website. Is there some sort of thread about it on Teamliquid? Did you code the site yourself?
EZPikachu
Profile Joined February 2011
United States51 Posts
March 16 2011 20:31 GMT
#30
wow~!!! they are awesome, thanks for posting this ^_^ I am sure a lot of toss out there going to enjoy this
慢慢來 比較快 @ justin.tv/ezsc2
BloomFilter
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland240 Posts
March 16 2011 21:05 GMT
#31
On March 17 2011 05:12 CecilSunkure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 21:34 BloomFilter wrote:
This replay pack is also available here http://drop.sc/packs/40.

PS. @Cecil, No need to convert to ZIP, drop.sc supports 7z now too.

That's actually a really interesting website. Is there some sort of thread about it on Teamliquid? Did you code the site yourself?


Yes to both questions. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=199285

Glad you find it interesting. =)
Living to learn. Learning to live.
Duckvillelol
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia1244 Posts
March 17 2011 08:42 GMT
#32
In the process of watching all of these - for those who don't really want to watch them yourselves I'm going to cast some of them which I like.

So far I have loved the no 4gate - mostly the 3stalker build every PvP which is good to see, I also love the building placements haha :D
Former SC2 commentator. youtube.com/duckvillelol
novabossa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States350 Posts
March 26 2011 02:06 GMT
#33
Stream is up now @ http://www.justin.tv/kiwiclonearmy#/w/1006963312
Rachel: First game. oGsMC: Yea. Rachel: Dark Templar. oGsMC: Yea. Rachel: Countered. oGsMC: Yea. Rachel: Were you worried? oGsMC: What?
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