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On February 15 2011 02:11 Sein wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2011 01:39 Djagulingu wrote:On February 14 2011 05:15 decaf wrote:
Never heard of him tbh
I'd like to hear IdrA's opinion, he always says it very clearly who's good and who's not. IdrA on MvP team and ProS clan players: "/* They are a bunch of cheesers */, they tend to do one base allins and they are not that good". /* I'm not exactly sure on what he said between these signs. Jason Lee expressed the entire quote before PhoenixMvP's GSL S2 Ro32 match, that IdrA said these things about WeRRa clan, you can check out the VOD in season 2 website, VOD of the first match may have this in it. */ IdrA on DongRaeGuProS: "No, he's not good. Having him on #1 KR ladder is like having piqliq on #1 NA ladder" IdrA on WeRRa's disband: "Them all wearing the same tag was a good way to know when you're getting all-in'd" EDIT: If there is anyone else who has more idra quotes on MvP/ProS/WeRRa/DongRaeGu, don't hesitate to share please. Phoenix is anything but a cheesy player. Cella probably told his clan members about how everyone used to cheese Idra on the NA server during beta and maybe they thought it'd be funny to do the same. Idra may be honest, but he has very strong opinions on what he considers as a pretty narrow set of "legit" strategies, and if he encounters players deviating from it, he has a tendency to call them !@#$ing terrible whether he wins or loses those games. EDIT: On this DongRaeGu guy, he's going to have to show some decent tournament results before we can really acknowledge him as a top player. Ladder system has its flaws and many pros don't take it as seriously as others.
IdrA's opinions were quite accurate when we think about WeRRa guys and their results in GSL1, as most of these words are quite outdated (except the one that's specifically on DongRaeGu), it's not that accurate at present. Phoenix is far from being cheesy, MvP guys were quite solid and did better than i expected in Zotac team invitational (3-5 with wins against finalist ZeNEX and semi-finalist SlayerS and all-kill against Prime), Tails especially was quite solid (with a bank of 10 wins and an all-kill against Prime with MarineKing in it).
On DRG: Considering MvP's best 2 zergs not being that dependable and him appearantly being the "top dawg" in his race in ProS clan and MvP team, I don't see a reason why he's not recruited by MvP. Sure he needs to bank some tournament wins, but i don't think he's too far away from doing that. He's eliminated by GanZi in code A but i think that was some kind of bracket sinister. I don't think he would be eliminated by current code A qualified players except GanZi, LosirA, Virus and maybe Ace.
On HuK vs DRGProS video: Artosis only casts replays that foreigners win against koreans. That is maybe because he only gets those replays. I watched it and DRG didn't play cheesy at all in that game. I'm pretty sure that HuK has an even-ish record against him in a good number of games.
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On February 15 2011 02:22 Tschis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2011 16:40 GP wrote:On February 14 2011 05:15 decaf wrote:
Never heard of him tbh
I'd like to hear IdrA's opinion, he always says it very clearly who's good and who's not. Idra has only played against him. He's only got one third of the picture, so what's the point of listening to Idra? Apparently he thought Nestea was cheesy and wasn't very good after he won the GSL so... I don't recall IdrA calling Nestea a cheesy or "not very good", what I recall is IdrA saying that he didn't know Nestea enough to afirm that he was good. //tx
Are you serious? He definitely made it clear he didn't think Nestea was very good. He said in GSL 3 that "a good player would win this time" and, probably not tot the best info, but someone mentioned in Idra's fanclub that he changed his opinion on Nestea, he thought Nestea was bad because Nestea would always cheese him on the ladder and he thought he had an easy bracket in GSL2.
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On February 15 2011 03:29 GP wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2011 02:22 Tschis wrote:On February 14 2011 16:40 GP wrote:On February 14 2011 05:15 decaf wrote:
Never heard of him tbh
I'd like to hear IdrA's opinion, he always says it very clearly who's good and who's not. Idra has only played against him. He's only got one third of the picture, so what's the point of listening to Idra? Apparently he thought Nestea was cheesy and wasn't very good after he won the GSL so... I don't recall IdrA calling Nestea a cheesy or "not very good", what I recall is IdrA saying that he didn't know Nestea enough to afirm that he was good. //tx Are you serious? He definitely made it clear he didn't think Nestea was very good. He said in GSL 3 that "a good player would win this time" and, probably not tot the best info, but someone mentioned in Idra's fanclub that he changed his opinion on Nestea, he thought Nestea was bad because Nestea would always cheese him on the ladder and he thought he had an easy bracket in GSL2.
Please if you want to state things at least be up to date. Yes in GSL2 Idra said he though Nestea wasn't as good as everything thought and I think that can't really be argued. His play was good but not above what other zergs showed. Since then Idra has stated "people change" and how Nestea has improved a lot since then and is really good now. He even said how Nestea is one of the only zergs he knows that can handle all the cheese thrown at him.
Nestea did have an easy bracket and wasn't that amazing back then. Now is a different story.
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On February 15 2011 03:33 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2011 03:29 GP wrote:On February 15 2011 02:22 Tschis wrote:On February 14 2011 16:40 GP wrote:On February 14 2011 05:15 decaf wrote:
Never heard of him tbh
I'd like to hear IdrA's opinion, he always says it very clearly who's good and who's not. Idra has only played against him. He's only got one third of the picture, so what's the point of listening to Idra? Apparently he thought Nestea was cheesy and wasn't very good after he won the GSL so... I don't recall IdrA calling Nestea a cheesy or "not very good", what I recall is IdrA saying that he didn't know Nestea enough to afirm that he was good. //tx Are you serious? He definitely made it clear he didn't think Nestea was very good. He said in GSL 3 that "a good player would win this time" and, probably not tot the best info, but someone mentioned in Idra's fanclub that he changed his opinion on Nestea, he thought Nestea was bad because Nestea would always cheese him on the ladder and he thought he had an easy bracket in GSL2. Please if you want to state things at least be up to date. Yes in GSL2 Idra said he though Nestea wasn't as good as everything thought and I think that can't really be argued. His play was good but not above what other zergs showed. Since then Idra has stated "people change" and how Nestea has improved a lot since then and is really good now. He even said how Nestea is one of the only zergs he knows that can handle all the cheese thrown at him. Nestea did have an easy bracket and wasn't that amazing back then. Now is a different story.
Uhm, context, context. I know what Idra thinks now, you don't have to tell me that. My whole point was that Idra's impressions from the ladder isn't really the best way to gauge a player.
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On February 15 2011 02:22 Tschis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2011 16:40 GP wrote:On February 14 2011 05:15 decaf wrote:
Never heard of him tbh
I'd like to hear IdrA's opinion, he always says it very clearly who's good and who's not. Idra has only played against him. He's only got one third of the picture, so what's the point of listening to Idra? Apparently he thought Nestea was cheesy and wasn't very good after he won the GSL so... I don't recall IdrA calling Nestea a cheesy or "not very good", what I recall is IdrA saying that he didn't know Nestea enough to afirm that he was good. //tx
Even after Nestea won GSL 2, Idra said that he's not that good and grossly overrated by Tastosis.
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On February 14 2011 16:40 GP wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2011 05:15 decaf wrote:
Never heard of him tbh
I'd like to hear IdrA's opinion, he always says it very clearly who's good and who's not. Idra has only played against him. He's only got one third of the picture, so what's the point of listening to Idra? Apparently he thought Nestea was cheesy and wasn't very good after he won the GSL so...
Idra is... an entertainer...
I didn't want to use the word clown, but for someone who takes things seriously, he doesn't command the respect he probably should among the community, even though he is actually a skilled player.
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On February 14 2011 05:18 decaf wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2011 05:16 zerious wrote:On February 14 2011 05:15 decaf wrote:
Never heard of him tbh
I'd like to hear IdrA's opinion, he always says it very clearly who's good and who's not. idra called him the piqliq of the KR server Yeah, but piqliq plays toss. I don't think it's that easy with Zerg. 60% win percentage is actually quite amazing with Zerg imo.
yeah in all honesty, i was surprised that he was zerg as well. not that it's impossible, but to win 12 straight seems like he should earn a feat of strength achivement lol.
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Well watching his stream right now he seems pretty good 
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Looking forward to see him play
Huk > all though =D
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As requested by lord Xeph, I'm going to comment of Xeph's play
Yes, he does do some all in plays but he is a very solid player and undoubtedly very skilled
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On February 16 2011 16:54 frogmelter wrote:
As requested by lord Xeph, I'm going to comment of Xeph's play
Yes, he does do some all in plays but he is a very solid player and undoubtedly very skilled
It is not me. It is 동래구프로에쓰(DongRaeGuProS)
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Watching him on Xeph's stream right now: I think Idra must have been talking about his ZvZ, because his ZvP and ZvT seem pretty solid to me. Also, his English is good! He tabbed out of SC2 to talk to stream viewers and bantered a bit. Really nice guy.
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DongRaeGu is awesome. watching him on xeph's stream :D
his english is very easy to understand too
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hmm ProS... wasn't that the remake of the WeRRa clan?
was he part of the original WeRRa clan too o.O?
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already asked him chat, yea he was...
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On February 16 2011 17:03 billyX333 wrote:
DongRaeGu is awesome. watching him on xeph's stream :D
his english is very easy to understand too
Are you sure it was DongRae speaking the English? It might've been Xeph himself, since he often speaks to the stream viewers and translates stuff for them.
Nevertheless, it's cool to see the DongRae on stream. He's quite a strong Zerg, and I'm hoping to see him get into GSL in the near future.
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On February 16 2011 17:20 eviltomahawk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2011 17:03 billyX333 wrote:
DongRaeGu is awesome. watching him on xeph's stream :D
his english is very easy to understand too Are you sure it was DongRae speaking the English? It might've been Xeph himself, since he often speaks to the stream viewers and translates stuff for them. Nevertheless, it's cool to see the DongRae on stream. He's quite a strong Zerg, and I'm hoping to see him get into GSL in the near future.
im just going by what the poster above me "iamxeph" said
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DRG is quite good. beat MKP and leenockfou back to back. gosuuu
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On February 14 2011 22:16 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
ProS was born out of the old WeRRa, I guess MVP (the team, not the player) was as well.
Sir what do u think about this zerg? I see him top1 of KR ladder already 3weeks in a row probably ^^
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Tngh512: i will raping huk!
» huk is so hot!
Lol this guy is funny as hell
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EPT
