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On February 14 2011 11:21 Slardar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2011 10:59 Backpack wrote:On February 14 2011 10:45 Slardar wrote:
WoW is easily unhealthy. As someone who has played WoW for years, It's a fun time but a massive regret. You get no gain at all, it's literally "Wasting of your free time." I'll argue at least with SC2 there are some monetary gains to be had, plus stimulating your brain since it's a strategy game at least.
@Regards to the email; nothing is free. If I gave you a gram of heroine for free, would you be obliged to comply? Obviously I'm trying to get you hooked as my customer. Play SC2 casually instead gents. WoW is just like heroine. You heard it here first folks. Oh wait no it's not. edit: WoW just like ANY OTHER GAME is a HOBBY. If you put too much time into it and let it destroy your life, that is your fault. There are no addictive chemicals in a computer game, there are no unhealthy side effects of playing the game if you have self-control. Don't get so defensive, I've played WoW for many years and that's my opinion. MMO's are addicting in general, hence WoW is as well. BeMannerDuPenner said it best, 90% of the game is sitting around waiting for something entertaining to happen. Obviously my analogy to heroine was a hyperbole, don't take it literally.
Yep. WoW is just a glorified waste of time. Most people sit in Orgrimmar all day or do repetitive tasks. There isn't any ingenuity in the game.....they should try to somehow implement what Guild wars 2 is doing. Remove quests and just add dynamic events...that's assuming Arena Net can do that. Their artists are more talented than their game designers I must say..
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On February 14 2011 13:08 Deadlyhazard wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2011 11:21 Slardar wrote:On February 14 2011 10:59 Backpack wrote:On February 14 2011 10:45 Slardar wrote:
WoW is easily unhealthy. As someone who has played WoW for years, It's a fun time but a massive regret. You get no gain at all, it's literally "Wasting of your free time." I'll argue at least with SC2 there are some monetary gains to be had, plus stimulating your brain since it's a strategy game at least.
@Regards to the email; nothing is free. If I gave you a gram of heroine for free, would you be obliged to comply? Obviously I'm trying to get you hooked as my customer. Play SC2 casually instead gents. WoW is just like heroine. You heard it here first folks. Oh wait no it's not. edit: WoW just like ANY OTHER GAME is a HOBBY. If you put too much time into it and let it destroy your life, that is your fault. There are no addictive chemicals in a computer game, there are no unhealthy side effects of playing the game if you have self-control. Don't get so defensive, I've played WoW for many years and that's my opinion. MMO's are addicting in general, hence WoW is as well. BeMannerDuPenner said it best, 90% of the game is sitting around waiting for something entertaining to happen. Obviously my analogy to heroine was a hyperbole, don't take it literally. Yep. WoW is just a glorified waste of time. Most people sit in Orgrimmar all day or do repetitive tasks. There isn't any ingenuity in the game.....they should try to somehow implement what Guild wars 2 is doing. Remove quests and just add dynamic events...that's assuming Arena Net can do that. Their artists are more talented than their game designers I must say..
EVERY game you don't play professionaly is a glorified waste of time.
are you honestly saying you will gain something irl from playing starcraft all day if you are not playing it proffessional?
Its absolutely hilarious that ppl insult 1 game while that argument applies to every game.
Also, i am actually shocked from the ppl in this thread.
You get a free game wich ppl payed for up to 60 dollar for and you demand more?
no wait, you demand every expansion wich is around 240 if you bought them all during the start.
think it like that and your rant makes you look silly...
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On February 14 2011 13:08 Deadlyhazard wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2011 11:21 Slardar wrote:On February 14 2011 10:59 Backpack wrote:On February 14 2011 10:45 Slardar wrote:
WoW is easily unhealthy. As someone who has played WoW for years, It's a fun time but a massive regret. You get no gain at all, it's literally "Wasting of your free time." I'll argue at least with SC2 there are some monetary gains to be had, plus stimulating your brain since it's a strategy game at least.
@Regards to the email; nothing is free. If I gave you a gram of heroine for free, would you be obliged to comply? Obviously I'm trying to get you hooked as my customer. Play SC2 casually instead gents. WoW is just like heroine. You heard it here first folks. Oh wait no it's not. edit: WoW just like ANY OTHER GAME is a HOBBY. If you put too much time into it and let it destroy your life, that is your fault. There are no addictive chemicals in a computer game, there are no unhealthy side effects of playing the game if you have self-control. Don't get so defensive, I've played WoW for many years and that's my opinion. MMO's are addicting in general, hence WoW is as well. BeMannerDuPenner said it best, 90% of the game is sitting around waiting for something entertaining to happen. Obviously my analogy to heroine was a hyperbole, don't take it literally. Yep. WoW is just a glorified waste of time. Most people sit in Orgrimmar all day or do repetitive tasks. There isn't any ingenuity in the game.....they should try to somehow implement what Guild wars 2 is doing. Remove quests and just add dynamic events...that's assuming Arena Net can do that. Their artists are more talented than their game designers I must say..
I have to jump on the WOW bashing train.
I've played WOW since the start and it's a timesink with no real progression for the players. The questing (level 1 to 85) are fun as hell with allot of diversity. The problem is when you get to the so called "end game content" which you will be spending the next 1 or 2 years on before an expansions shows up. The end game content consists of a very few limited dungeons that has a set amount of bosses. As a player you basically just kill these over and over again for better gear and that's about it.
At this point people aren't really playing it cause it's fun anymore they simply are doing because they already taken the time to level up a character and getting decent gear so they might as well continue. And the keypoint here is "Gear". Wow doesn't reward players for their skills but for their gear. If you can waste 12 hours a day on wow, who cares about skill you will get invited to every raid and instance as long as you have the highest GearScore.
The worse thing is that the damn thing resets every expansion, and by reset I'm not talking about new gear and new levels they basically re-design every damn class so you have to relearn everything again. This in contrast to Starcraft and Starcraft2 where RTS skill actually is transferable between games ( practically all good players in GSL for example are former SC and War3 players).
So yea, wow is a piece of shit. Seriously.
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On February 14 2011 19:32 Assirra wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2011 13:08 Deadlyhazard wrote:On February 14 2011 11:21 Slardar wrote:On February 14 2011 10:59 Backpack wrote:On February 14 2011 10:45 Slardar wrote:
WoW is easily unhealthy. As someone who has played WoW for years, It's a fun time but a massive regret. You get no gain at all, it's literally "Wasting of your free time." I'll argue at least with SC2 there are some monetary gains to be had, plus stimulating your brain since it's a strategy game at least.
@Regards to the email; nothing is free. If I gave you a gram of heroine for free, would you be obliged to comply? Obviously I'm trying to get you hooked as my customer. Play SC2 casually instead gents. WoW is just like heroine. You heard it here first folks. Oh wait no it's not. edit: WoW just like ANY OTHER GAME is a HOBBY. If you put too much time into it and let it destroy your life, that is your fault. There are no addictive chemicals in a computer game, there are no unhealthy side effects of playing the game if you have self-control. Don't get so defensive, I've played WoW for many years and that's my opinion. MMO's are addicting in general, hence WoW is as well. BeMannerDuPenner said it best, 90% of the game is sitting around waiting for something entertaining to happen. Obviously my analogy to heroine was a hyperbole, don't take it literally. Yep. WoW is just a glorified waste of time. Most people sit in Orgrimmar all day or do repetitive tasks. There isn't any ingenuity in the game.....they should try to somehow implement what Guild wars 2 is doing. Remove quests and just add dynamic events...that's assuming Arena Net can do that. Their artists are more talented than their game designers I must say.. EVERY game you don't play professionaly is a glorified waste of time. are you honestly saying you will gain something irl from playing starcraft all day if you are not playing it proffessional? Its absolutely hilarious that ppl insult 1 game while that argument applies to every game.
the difference is
1. in wow you are forced to do stuff over and over and over again (be it dailies,instances,bg grind,rep grind,gold grind...) to keep up2date.
2. most people dont actually have fun most of the time when playing. when i play a batman,mass effect,starcraft,quake or whatever i actually always play and enjoy myself. in wow you either stand around or do something that you dont enjoy the vast majority of time.
imagine mass effect 2 but you can only do a fun mission 2 days a week and you have to do the boring planet mining the other 5 days of the week just to be able to have fun on the other 2 days.
also all entertainment is "a waste of time". wow is a real waste of time cause you arent entertained most of the time.
At this point people aren't really playing it cause it's fun anymore they simply are doing because they already taken the time to level up a character and getting decent gear so they might as well continue. And the keypoint here is "Gear". Wow doesn't reward players for their skills but for their gear. If you can waste 12 hours a day on wow, who cares about skill you will get invited to every raid and instance as long as you have the highest GearScore.
good point. this also kept me from quitting for some time. when you think about how much time you already invested in this character you just keep playing since not playing for a time instantly means evrything you have will be trash. so to not let the invested time go to waste you waste even more time to keep it going.
and yep skill is like nonexistant across the wow community. but that doesnt matter since gear > skill in evry situation in the game.
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I get a lot such e-mails in my mail linked to my bnet account, all of them are scams. It doesn't ask for any information does it? If so, then sure, it can be legit or no, whatever. If you ever receive an e-mail asking you to go to a link or some info, never, EVER, click it.
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Well I rarely complain about something that's free, but in this case I think the better move would have been not to offer anything at all. The first taste is always free, gentlemen.
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On February 14 2011 10:59 Backpack wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2011 10:45 Slardar wrote:
WoW is easily unhealthy. As someone who has played WoW for years, It's a fun time but a massive regret. You get no gain at all, it's literally "Wasting of your free time." I'll argue at least with SC2 there are some monetary gains to be had, plus stimulating your brain since it's a strategy game at least.
@Regards to the email; nothing is free. If I gave you a gram of heroine for free, would you be obliged to comply? Obviously I'm trying to get you hooked as my customer. Play SC2 casually instead gents. WoW is just like heroine. You heard it here first folks. Oh wait no it's not. edit: WoW just like ANY OTHER GAME is a HOBBY. If you put too much time into it and let it destroy your life, that is your fault. There are no addictive chemicals in a computer game, there are no unhealthy side effects of playing the game if you have self-control.
As well as you don't get bored with addictions as people often do with wow. Its more an obsession than anything.
and for monetary gains with playing sc2, you have to play the game and practice for so many dam hour any job would pay alot more as well. Theres say what around 100 people in around 2-3 million players who actually make any money playing sc2.
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Seriously whats wrong with some guys here? you get a game _for free_ and really complain about it? if you don't give a shit about wow. don't play it.
I myself can't see why wow would be "like a drug". It's a boring game (for me) which i've never found interesting after playing for over 2 weeks
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It just seems so obvious that blizz is keeping up appearances here. There is already a 14day trial. Sure, this one is 30 days according to op but these are sort of like "samplers" where you go and try the game to see if its to your liking and practically 14 days should be enough for a person to decide whether or not they want to continue to pay2play.
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Its a shame they just give you the new cata zones and leveling takes no time now(i mean i was spending like 20 mins max a level at 40-60..) so you arent getting much content, and unless you find one of those lvl 60 onyl guilds you wont be doing any fun raiding either
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the problem about opinions on mmpogs are that people either still playing it because of friends and hate it, stopped playing it and hate it with passion, still playing it and finding it awesome, or never played it and have no idea about it. So if you want the persons opinion you just have to ask if they have played the game heh, saves you from hate or love overdose.
I knew people that quittet 3 years ago (another mmpog) and they still flamed at sites about recent updates or the game itself heh.
played wow a few times was fun to explore but the fight system was not my taste.
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On February 14 2011 20:17 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2011 19:32 Assirra wrote:On February 14 2011 13:08 Deadlyhazard wrote:On February 14 2011 11:21 Slardar wrote:On February 14 2011 10:59 Backpack wrote:On February 14 2011 10:45 Slardar wrote:
WoW is easily unhealthy. As someone who has played WoW for years, It's a fun time but a massive regret. You get no gain at all, it's literally "Wasting of your free time." I'll argue at least with SC2 there are some monetary gains to be had, plus stimulating your brain since it's a strategy game at least.
@Regards to the email; nothing is free. If I gave you a gram of heroine for free, would you be obliged to comply? Obviously I'm trying to get you hooked as my customer. Play SC2 casually instead gents. WoW is just like heroine. You heard it here first folks. Oh wait no it's not. edit: WoW just like ANY OTHER GAME is a HOBBY. If you put too much time into it and let it destroy your life, that is your fault. There are no addictive chemicals in a computer game, there are no unhealthy side effects of playing the game if you have self-control. Don't get so defensive, I've played WoW for many years and that's my opinion. MMO's are addicting in general, hence WoW is as well. BeMannerDuPenner said it best, 90% of the game is sitting around waiting for something entertaining to happen. Obviously my analogy to heroine was a hyperbole, don't take it literally. Yep. WoW is just a glorified waste of time. Most people sit in Orgrimmar all day or do repetitive tasks. There isn't any ingenuity in the game.....they should try to somehow implement what Guild wars 2 is doing. Remove quests and just add dynamic events...that's assuming Arena Net can do that. Their artists are more talented than their game designers I must say.. EVERY game you don't play professionaly is a glorified waste of time. are you honestly saying you will gain something irl from playing starcraft all day if you are not playing it proffessional? Its absolutely hilarious that ppl insult 1 game while that argument applies to every game. the difference is 1. in wow you are forced to do stuff over and over and over again (be it dailies,instances,bg grind,rep grind,gold grind...) to keep up2date. 2. most people dont actually have fun most of the time when playing. when i play a batman,mass effect,starcraft,quake or whatever i actually always play and enjoy myself. in wow you either stand around or do something that you dont enjoy the vast majority of time. imagine mass effect 2 but you can only do a fun mission 2 days a week and you have to do the boring planet mining the other 5 days of the week just to be able to have fun on the other 2 days. also all entertainment is "a waste of time". wow is a real waste of time cause you arent entertained most of the time. Show nested quote +
At this point people aren't really playing it cause it's fun anymore they simply are doing because they already taken the time to level up a character and getting decent gear so they might as well continue. And the keypoint here is "Gear". Wow doesn't reward players for their skills but for their gear. If you can waste 12 hours a day on wow, who cares about skill you will get invited to every raid and instance as long as you have the highest GearScore.
good point. this also kept me from quitting for some time. when you think about how much time you already invested in this character you just keep playing since not playing for a time instantly means evrything you have will be trash. so to not let the invested time go to waste you waste even more time to keep it going. and yep skill is like nonexistant across the wow community. but that doesnt matter since gear > skill in evry situation in the game.
1. you say you constantly need to do the same yet you give different examples, doesn't sound the same to me, there are tons of stuff you can do and you dont even need to be "up2date" anymore unless you wanna be the top of your realm
2.How can you claim something like "most ppl don't have fun"? I mean honestly, i dont wanne start insulting here but thats pretty silly.
3. belive it or not, mass effect 2 IS doing the same thing, you are either talking or shooting, look i can simplify games aswell, actually, you can do tons and tons of more things in wow so don't dare to use that as example.
Conclusion: you either hate mmo's in general or just go on the wow hate bandwagon.
I realy don't care wich one it is but spouting wrong info just annoys me.
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On February 14 2011 23:34 Assirra wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2011 20:17 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:On February 14 2011 19:32 Assirra wrote:On February 14 2011 13:08 Deadlyhazard wrote:On February 14 2011 11:21 Slardar wrote:On February 14 2011 10:59 Backpack wrote:On February 14 2011 10:45 Slardar wrote:
WoW is easily unhealthy. As someone who has played WoW for years, It's a fun time but a massive regret. You get no gain at all, it's literally "Wasting of your free time." I'll argue at least with SC2 there are some monetary gains to be had, plus stimulating your brain since it's a strategy game at least.
@Regards to the email; nothing is free. If I gave you a gram of heroine for free, would you be obliged to comply? Obviously I'm trying to get you hooked as my customer. Play SC2 casually instead gents. WoW is just like heroine. You heard it here first folks. Oh wait no it's not. edit: WoW just like ANY OTHER GAME is a HOBBY. If you put too much time into it and let it destroy your life, that is your fault. There are no addictive chemicals in a computer game, there are no unhealthy side effects of playing the game if you have self-control. Don't get so defensive, I've played WoW for many years and that's my opinion. MMO's are addicting in general, hence WoW is as well. BeMannerDuPenner said it best, 90% of the game is sitting around waiting for something entertaining to happen. Obviously my analogy to heroine was a hyperbole, don't take it literally. Yep. WoW is just a glorified waste of time. Most people sit in Orgrimmar all day or do repetitive tasks. There isn't any ingenuity in the game.....they should try to somehow implement what Guild wars 2 is doing. Remove quests and just add dynamic events...that's assuming Arena Net can do that. Their artists are more talented than their game designers I must say.. EVERY game you don't play professionaly is a glorified waste of time. are you honestly saying you will gain something irl from playing starcraft all day if you are not playing it proffessional? Its absolutely hilarious that ppl insult 1 game while that argument applies to every game. the difference is 1. in wow you are forced to do stuff over and over and over again (be it dailies,instances,bg grind,rep grind,gold grind...) to keep up2date. 2. most people dont actually have fun most of the time when playing. when i play a batman,mass effect,starcraft,quake or whatever i actually always play and enjoy myself. in wow you either stand around or do something that you dont enjoy the vast majority of time. imagine mass effect 2 but you can only do a fun mission 2 days a week and you have to do the boring planet mining the other 5 days of the week just to be able to have fun on the other 2 days. also all entertainment is "a waste of time". wow is a real waste of time cause you arent entertained most of the time.
At this point people aren't really playing it cause it's fun anymore they simply are doing because they already taken the time to level up a character and getting decent gear so they might as well continue. And the keypoint here is "Gear". Wow doesn't reward players for their skills but for their gear. If you can waste 12 hours a day on wow, who cares about skill you will get invited to every raid and instance as long as you have the highest GearScore.
good point. this also kept me from quitting for some time. when you think about how much time you already invested in this character you just keep playing since not playing for a time instantly means evrything you have will be trash. so to not let the invested time go to waste you waste even more time to keep it going. and yep skill is like nonexistant across the wow community. but that doesnt matter since gear > skill in evry situation in the game. 1. you say you constantly need to do the same yet you give different examples, doesn't sound the same to me, there are tons of stuff you can do and you dont even need to be "up2date" anymore unless you wanna be the top of your realm 2.How can you claim something like "most ppl don't have fun"? I mean honestly, i dont wanne start insulting here but thats pretty silly. 3. belive it or not, mass effect 2 IS doing the same thing, you are either talking or shooting, look i can simplify games aswell, actually, you can do tons and tons of more things in wow so don't dare to use that as example. Conclusion: you either hate mmo's in general or just go on the wow hate bandwagon. I realy don't care wich one it is but spouting wrong info just annoys me.
1. because you do those example 1000 times. farming gold,herbs,skins whatever is the same thing as 5 years ago. the badge farming requires you to run the same few instances hudnreds of times. and up2date = be able to pvp/pve at a decent level. not = top of the realm.
2. thats my expirience, what i heared and saw from others. go at any time on any server. there will be tons of people standing around doing nothing. look at all the botters,gold buyers ,afk farmers etc. why do they do that? cause doing it yourself isnt fun.
why do you think even hardcore raidguilds buy tons of stuff? simply because while they like raiding they hate the rest of the game and what they need to do to be able to raid.
sure there are people that like doing the same daily tasks over and over again. and thats great for them. but tons of people only play for raids/arena and hate alle the farming and grinding but still waste time on it cause its needed for what they want to do.
3. i dont think you can compare different levels with story ,twists and stuff happening with flying around the same zone for 3 hours evry day to farm herbs or doing the same instance for the 87th time on halfrobot mode.
thats like comparing going out and meeting people with sitting with one person in a room for a year. both of the time you just talk to people right?
i dont hate mmos in general and i dont even hate wow. i played it at a decent level for 2 years and am still in ocntact with my guild. i just say what i think and tell what i expirienced. what i say is true for me and for many others(as you can see just by the people that already agreed with me here).
i have no reason to jump on any "bandwagon" or whatever. i just wrote my opinion down. you on the other hand get quite aggresive and defense for whatever reason.
also if you dont see the huge repetion and grind in wow(you even generalize all other games to defend against it) then you should maybe take your blizzglasses off.its a fact . but its a matter of taste if you like it or not. there are people that love games like silkroad where 99% of the quests are "kill 15000 of mob X"(and im not exagerating here) and hey its fine. but you simply cant deny it.
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