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On February 14 2011 10:07 Backpack wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2011 10:03 TotalBiscuit wrote:On February 14 2011 09:32 Sein wrote: Nothing special. It's pretty common for these subscription-based games to offer either a free or discounted first month/half a month to get people hooked. They're just doing their business. Kind of amusing that the e-mail sounds like they're trying to pass it off as some generosity on their part though, haha. Kinda is, since it's 3 times the length of their normal trial. Well that and it's the full game >.< Trial accounts can't trade, can't send tells to people, cant use mailbox, cant go past level 20 etc. etc.
Yeah that too, kinda a big difference.
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If you click a confession and check its URL you can see a # at the end, for example http://www.wowdetox.com/view.php?number=52277If you edit that number to something random between 1 and 52277, the page will most likely come up as a blank, as in no post there. This site is a fake.
Did some random pages, doesn't seem fake to me.
And considering how many is playing that game, 50k comments doesn't seem unreasonable. Remember many of them probably posts several times as well.
But blizzard should really do it the other way. Have wow? Give them Sc2 instead. Much healthier
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Its sad that people still think WoW is unhealthy...
I would use TB's wonderful rant about it from one of his dailies, but as he is already in the thread I suppose I should leave that for him
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On February 14 2011 03:18 junemermaid wrote: The RTS genre was going through a lull prior to SC2.
We had CoH, DoW II, Civ IV (V shortly after SC2's release), and I guess Supreme Commander for the five people that played it.
If you looked at how many people were actually playing those games online, I think the Brood War public servers still had them beat. CoH only had an active community of about 3-4k players. Not sure about DoW II's following, but its a ripple compared to what SC2 has brought into the RTS scene. Also, the TL community is actually rather small compared to other gaming communities (CS-nation, for one, or Shacknews when it was initially an FPS / Quake community). So its not as if TL is keeping the RTS genre afloat on its rather robust shoulders. You can think that, but it really isn't. If there is a general disinterest in RTS games, it would fall off the planet except in a few hovels (shiny and pretty as it is) such as this one.
Well, Civilization is technically not an RTS but a Turn-Based Strategy Game, though it is still a fantastic game.
I think Company of Heroes, Dawn of War, and Supreme Commander should not be taken for granted as RTS powerhouses back in the day. I think each one of these games had a few major tournaments running during their heyday, and each game probably had it's turn at the World Cyber Games. Heck, some of our best players in SC2 such as HuK, SelecT, and TLO came from CoH, DoW, and SupCom respectively.
Command and Conquer also was quite popular recently (except for C&C4 for obvious reasons). C&C3 and RA3, despite having major balance issues, were very popular games and had their share of e-sports events throughout their lifetimes, with C&C3 getting a spot at the WCG. Unfortunately, EA's notorious lack of support meant that the C&C series never lived up to it's full potential.
Anyways, it seems like the free WoW offer should be quite interesting. I used to play on a pirated copy of WoW on private servers with XP boosts, and it was a very unreliable experience to play on these unofficial servers. Perhaps this 30 day trial will be quite an interesting summer project lol.
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Its sad that people still think WoW is unhealthy...
It is... during raid nights I ate tons of junk each time.. and since you raid quite often and use regular hours, it's quite easy making a habit of eating junk 3+ days a week.
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On February 14 2011 10:26 Myrtroll wrote:It is... during raid nights I ate tons of junk each time.. and since you raid quite often and use regular hours, it's quite easy making a habit of eating junk 3+ days a week.
This applies to any long-term gaming session. Gaming is in general an unhealthy activity which should be done in moderation and made up for with regular exercise.
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WoW is easily unhealthy. As someone who has played WoW for years, It's a fun time but a massive regret. You get no gain at all, it's literally "Wasting of your free time." I'll argue at least with SC2 there are some monetary gains to be had, plus stimulating your brain since it's a strategy game at least.
@Regards to the email; nothing is free. If I gave you a gram of heroine for free, would you be obliged to comply? Obviously I'm trying to get you hooked as my customer. Play SC2 casually instead gents.
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On February 14 2011 10:45 Slardar wrote: WoW is easily unhealthy. As someone who has played WoW for years, It's a fun time but a massive regret. You get no gain at all, it's literally "Wasting of your free time." I'll argue at least with SC2 there are some monetary gains to be had, plus stimulating your brain since it's a strategy game at least.
@Regards to the email; nothing is free. If I gave you a gram of heroine for free, would you be obliged to comply? Obviously I'm trying to get you hooked as my customer. Play SC2 casually instead gents. WoW is just like heroine. You heard it here first folks.
Oh wait no it's not.
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WoW just like ANY OTHER GAME is a HOBBY. If you put too much time into it and let it destroy your life, that is your fault. There are no addictive chemicals in a computer game, there are no unhealthy side effects of playing the game if you have self-control.
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On February 14 2011 10:45 Slardar wrote: WoW is easily unhealthy. As someone who has played WoW for years, It's a fun time but a massive regret. You get no gain at all, it's literally "Wasting of your free time." I'll argue at least with SC2 there are some monetary gains to be had, plus stimulating your brain since it's a strategy game at least.
also you actually get rewarded by skill instead of random pixels that will be replaced by other random pixels in a few weeks/months anyways.
from game related skill (rts overall,mouse/keyboard accuracy&speed) over stuff like decision making or multitasking to a proper mindset for practice. there is quite some to gain from playing starcraft. from wow the only thing you gain is weight and more time for yourself alone at home.
i playd wow about 2 years. raided some , almost got gladiator several times. but i never was the "hardcore" guy. i could never bring myself to grind out stuff ,always had people do it for my, getting easy gold from guild/friends/pushing ppl in arena.
it was over for me mid wotlk when all the million daylies and the shitty collosseum stuff came out. waste 2 hours evry day for 2months for crappy stuff? "hurr we actually have no new content so here is a random place to fight random enemys so a new carrot is there to chase!"? nah def not.
and even in the time before i mainly played cause my guild is awesome. age average of like 27, chill guys ,couples and girls. i still hang around in the forum and play other games with em . but never wow again. 15€ / month for a chat tool that also wastes huge amounts of time is n o good.
really enjoyd playing single player games for a while with real gamedesign and real fun and now sc2 is the only thing i play online (+ some urban terror or quake ). and now i actually have fun again playing instead of wasting several hours a week just to have fun on one or two days and scheduling your RL around it.
the sad thing in wow is that you hang around in it ALL the time. and you wait for something fun to happen. but one day you notice that 90% of the time youre bored or doing mindless stupid stuff you have to do just to keep up.
maybe ill get into a mmo again. new DC game looks fun but its not the time now, maybe ill check out the star wars game cause of the hype or guildwars2 cause i hope it wont be so grindy but i doubt ill ever go back to wow.
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On February 14 2011 10:59 Backpack wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2011 10:45 Slardar wrote: WoW is easily unhealthy. As someone who has played WoW for years, It's a fun time but a massive regret. You get no gain at all, it's literally "Wasting of your free time." I'll argue at least with SC2 there are some monetary gains to be had, plus stimulating your brain since it's a strategy game at least.
@Regards to the email; nothing is free. If I gave you a gram of heroine for free, would you be obliged to comply? Obviously I'm trying to get you hooked as my customer. Play SC2 casually instead gents. WoW is just like heroine. You heard it here first folks. Oh wait no it's not. edit: WoW just like ANY OTHER GAME is a HOBBY. If you put too much time into it and let it destroy your life, that is your fault. There are no addictive chemicals in a computer game, there are no unhealthy side effects of playing the game if you have self-control.
Don't get so defensive, I've played WoW for many years and that's my opinion. MMO's are addicting in general, hence WoW is as well. BeMannerDuPenner said it best, 90% of the game is sitting around waiting for something entertaining to happen. Obviously my analogy to heroine was a hyperbole, don't take it literally.
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I got this email and i got my copy of sc2 a couple week after launch, never did beta. Not going to use it but i not going to think that this is a bad movie by blizzard.
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I got this email also, seemed legit but I never intended to play WoW so I deleted the email. I bought SC2 2 weeks after released and was invited into the late 1st stage of beta.
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They already give you 2 free 7 day passes with every purchase of a Blizzard product. This isn't much different.
Edit: Oh didn't realize it was the FULL game. Thought it was just an extended trial.
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Why didn't I get this email? I guess it probably went to spam, lol.
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I have a feeling this is in response to Rift coming out soon. They want more people to play WoW, so people don't play Rift. Every time any other MMO has come out after WoW, Blizzard bought up all the ad space so people would just want to play WoW
However, Trion has the upper hand in this situation, and not only has an open beta coming soon, but they also reserved all the ad space, so that people would want to play Rift, instead of WoW (which people are getting more and more sick of).
Battle of tyrants
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On February 14 2011 12:01 hoby2000 wrote: I have a feeling this is in response to Rift coming out soon. They want more people to play WoW, so people don't play Rift. Every time any other MMO has come out after WoW, Blizzard bought up all the ad space so people would just want to play WoW
However, Trion has the upper hand in this situation, and not only has an open beta coming soon, but they also reserved all the ad space, so that people would want to play Rift, instead of WoW (which people are getting more and more sick of).
Battle of tyrants
However, Trion has the upper hand
What is this Trion of which you speak?
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On February 14 2011 04:22 Shockk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2011 03:50 Cyclon wrote:On February 14 2011 03:48 Shockk wrote:On February 14 2011 03:42 Cyclon wrote: Apparently the 30 day timer starts as soon as you redeem the thing. Fucking ridiculous since the thing is 10 GB, I can't even download it until March because I have a capped internet. Who the hell thought having your trial timer count down before you even have the game was a good idea? The game client can easily be downloaded via other sources than Blizzard's "official" download on the account page. Just google a bit and you'll find something. If your internet is capped in a way that makes you worry about 10 GB you shouldn't really bother with the game, though. After the initial download you'll have to fetch another couple of GB just for patches and stuff, and you'll end with 15 or 16 GB total. Actually downloading it isn't a problem, I could get it from school and burn it to some discs or something. Its the utter stupidity of Blizzard that makes me just not give a crap about it. So if the download isn't the problem since you can circumvent it easily and your capped internet won't impact your ability to play - where's your issue with the game, and what justifies you calling Blizzard "utterly stupid"?
The fact that I have to go to ridiculous workarounds that cost me time and money just to play a game that would already cost me $$ per month and Blizzard can't even be bothered to set up the system so as not to jew me out of time before I even have access to it? Just because something doesn't majorly affect you doesn't mean you can't have a problem with Blizzard's attitude towards players and refuse to buy their product because of that.
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I hate PvE, it makes no sense, just go play a better rpg like mass effect. I liked the PvP concept of it but dont like that its not balanced for 1v1. If that were true then maybe I could get more into it.
I've done the arenas thing but ultimately its a race that doesnt end.
I have nothing against it people playing WoW, i just dont like people saying it requires skill and is esport worthy, because quite frankly it is not. Its just a really fun casual game which is also a huge time sink.
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On February 14 2011 12:06 Trion wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2011 12:01 hoby2000 wrote: I have a feeling this is in response to Rift coming out soon. They want more people to play WoW, so people don't play Rift. Every time any other MMO has come out after WoW, Blizzard bought up all the ad space so people would just want to play WoW
However, Trion has the upper hand in this situation, and not only has an open beta coming soon, but they also reserved all the ad space, so that people would want to play Rift, instead of WoW (which people are getting more and more sick of).
Battle of tyrants What is this Trion of which you speak?
Ah hah!
Trion
FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
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