• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:21
CEST 03:21
KST 10:21
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE11Weekly Cups (July 20-26): Early returns on 5.0.16b7IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly4Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard"8ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!41
StarCraft 2
General
Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" Terran or Protoss Weekly Cups (July 20-26): Early returns on 5.0.16b
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly INu's Battles#18 - Cure, herO, Rogue & ByuN
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation
Brood War
General
screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool BW General Discussion ASL22 General Discussion ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2v2v2v2 Tournament Star Con San Diego 2026 Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2026-27 Football Thread placeholder 2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Games, Hormones, and "Dark" …
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10991 users

ESL TV's RotterdaM University - Page 9

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 15 Next All
resilve
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom678 Posts
February 21 2011 19:34 GMT
#161
I dont know if you guys have actually tried it, but trying to hold a conversation, or listen to instructions whilst playing a game is seriously difficult - let alone live to an audience. When im playing ladder I am not even paying attention to a single note of seriously loud music a few inches from my face - need maximum focus to do my best.

Its kind of an inherent problem with any kind of live coaching, I guess either Carmac needs to practice under these circumstances, or Rotti needs to learn how to condense information to only say a few words about the very most important things in a game.

In any case, I dont think it is fair to criticize too much that someone struggles to do this - try it yourself by putting on an audiobook/radio talkshow or such and try focus on every word while laddering :p

I love the fact each show is getting better tho - in production aswell as Carmac's skills ^^
Socke Fighting!!!!
Carmac
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland375 Posts
February 21 2011 20:20 GMT
#162
No worries, guys. This is a new concept and we're learning how to perfect it as we go along.

I think for the next show we'll come up with a series of drills and focus on replay analysis rather than playing live matches (unless they are challenges like the one vs. Phil from Fnatic).

By the way: I want to LEARN to play the game properly, not cheese or all in every single game. I just wanted to get a solid build order learned properly so I can execute it well, then begin to find basic deviations, etc. etc.

I think I'll be posting some replays soon so people could actually give me tips as well, if you're interested (I know some people are and I'm grateful for it) =)
www.intelextrememasters.com
fraugos
Profile Joined January 2011
Spain8 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-21 20:36:58
February 21 2011 20:32 GMT
#163
Post some of your home replays so we could see you without the liveshow presure.

BTW: do you know when the VOD will be upload? I couldn´t make it on time so i miss part of the show.
Carmac
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland375 Posts
February 21 2011 20:51 GMT
#164
On February 22 2011 05:32 fraugos wrote:
Post some of your home replays so we could see you without the liveshow presure.

BTW: do you know when the VOD will be upload? I couldn´t make it on time so i miss part of the show.


I expect it to be up tomorrow.
www.intelextrememasters.com
ffz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States490 Posts
February 21 2011 21:33 GMT
#165
LOL i watched episode 1... man you have to use the space bar more often and also micro ur scouts and just use hotkeys to build. It was pretty funny seeing you try to macro with just mouse and click and occasional hotkey.
Meow.
Phenny
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1435 Posts
February 23 2011 13:07 GMT
#166
Just watched ep3, Rotty is right you do make it harder than you need to, I think you will continue to learn though and reach plat soon enough.

Also it must be really unnerving and easy to make mistakes due to not having the home comfort feel that you'd be used to.
raz`
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom33 Posts
February 23 2011 14:42 GMT
#167
You're not practicing enough - you need to MASS games MUCH more. 3 and a half weeks and it says you've played just over 100 games on your bnet profile. If I was playing even semi-serious I would do that amount of games in a couple of days.
Carmac
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland375 Posts
February 24 2011 19:20 GMT
#168
On February 23 2011 23:42 raz` wrote:
You're not practicing enough - you need to MASS games MUCH more. 3 and a half weeks and it says you've played just over 100 games on your bnet profile. If I was playing even semi-serious I would do that amount of games in a couple of days.


Hey man, I have a day job, which happens to be making sure the Intel Extreme Masters World Championship is awesome. The event is in 4 days ;-)
www.intelextrememasters.com
Carmac
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland375 Posts
February 24 2011 19:20 GMT
#169
Updated the OP with the VOD link: http://tv.esl.eu/de/vod/view/22759
www.intelextrememasters.com
Rylaji
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden580 Posts
February 26 2011 02:27 GMT
#170
I agree with Rotterdam on the part that you try to do alot more advanced stuff that doesnt really pay of in the lower leagues.

For example, you do your fake SG into 4 gate, sure it's good. But if your opponent is too noob to watch what he is scouting, which is a reality in that lvl of play, I did the same thing when I was lower league. I would send out an SCV, but I was so busy doing other things I didnt rly watch what it was scouting all the time, then your tact is just a waste of gas and time.

Instead learn to 4-gate or 3-gate-robo and do it well, because it might sound and seem boring. But there is a BIG difference in a good and a bad 4-gate. So much can go wrong, so trying to do WP drops or Immortal drops or such is just not good for you. I know how it feels to watch pro's play and wanting to copy their stuff, but in reality it's soooo much more than just copying it. You need the timing, the gameplay sense and reaction time.

GL man, I think u will be in Plat in 13 days!
Official Fan of; Obama oGs.MC // God of War ST.JulyZerg // d.Naniwa // ST.Squirtle // SlayerS_Alicia // Emperor SlayerS_BoxeR // EG.HuK // White-Ra // MarineKing.Prime.WE // oGs.NaDa's Body // SlayerS.MMA // MvP.DongRaeGu
deathly rat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom911 Posts
February 26 2011 03:55 GMT
#171
I enjoy watching your show. I think it might be better if you find it hard to play whilst Rotterdam is talking to you, then maybe he can tell you what he wants you to do before the game, and then you can talk about it after (and he can just commentate during the game). You need to try to just listen more and give him a chance to say whatever point he is trying to make.
No logo (logo)
Doitsujin
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany6 Posts
February 26 2011 22:42 GMT
#172
Carmac.. whats up? 5 days no game at all... I have the slight feeling in my urine,..that it could become hard to get in masters.. ^^

Good luck anyway! I will continue following the show.
what quote ?
Doitsujin
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany6 Posts
March 04 2011 17:32 GMT
#173
man... another week and no game.. Carmac.. You will fail so hard.. Maybe become downgraded to silver.. xD Thats funny. ... hehe ...eh..sad..of course. I had great hope... :./
what quote ?
dizzy101
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2066 Posts
March 04 2011 17:33 GMT
#174
Eh.. they're busy organising the best non-Korean SC2 tourney worldwide?! Give the guys a break, they'll be back
R3m3mb3rM3
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany954 Posts
March 04 2011 17:36 GMT
#175
ive got a question

i won that maradeur nooby thing
has been 2 weeks or something and i thought esl is contacting me but nothing happend yet ^^
just wanted to post a little reminder

hopefully i will get that thing after all
Doitsujin
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany6 Posts
March 05 2011 15:27 GMT
#176
On March 05 2011 02:33 dizzy101 wrote:
Eh.. they're busy organising the best non-Korean SC2 tourney worldwide?! Give the guys a break, they'll be back



Yeah...heard about that..everybody is talking about it.. But..I am too dumb to find the streams... I read somewhere that streams were forbidden by some pissed-off-company.. But I don´t know if that is right.

Well,.. do you have links to streams and times when they are actually on air? (I don´t mean the counter strike streams and that where take throws stuff into the crowd of nerds, while moaning about they don´t shout enough..^^ Man... they are nerds... shouting is very unnatural to em,..except they get owned by a couple of banelings. rofl. xD
what quote ?
Carmac
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland375 Posts
March 06 2011 20:33 GMT
#177
Hey kids, we're coming back Monday at 19:00 CET! Both Rotti and I are super tired from the Intel Extreme Masters World Championship, but I want to be Platinum asap! =)
www.intelextrememasters.com
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
March 06 2011 20:51 GMT
#178
On March 07 2011 05:33 Carmac wrote:
Hey kids, we're coming back Monday at 19:00 CET! Both Rotti and I are super tired from the Intel Extreme Masters World Championship, but I want to be Platinum asap! =)


Carmac fighting!
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
March 06 2011 20:53 GMT
#179
On March 07 2011 05:33 Carmac wrote:
Hey kids, we're coming back Monday at 19:00 CET! Both Rotti and I are super tired from the Intel Extreme Masters World Championship, but I want to be Platinum asap! =)


You looked like you were ready to die up there on stage at the end. Take a vacation and rest! You deserve it! Great event.
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
RotterdaM
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands684 Posts
March 06 2011 21:02 GMT
#180
Tune in tomorrow bad lads , some IEM Recap as Carmac said and I'll try to hammer a bit more on the basics, free training for everyone who aint 3k+ master league ;P, time that I practise myself a bit as well though haha, barely played since Cebit, but I'll take care of that, cu tomorrow 19 cet as always
Commentatorwww.instagram.com/RotterdaM08 for pictures of cute puppies.
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 15 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 40m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ViBE176
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 6303
Artosis 632
firebathero 398
Terrorterran 3
Dota 2
monkeys_forever312
NeuroSwarm159
League of Legends
Doublelift5804
JimRising 548
Counter-Strike
summit1g8240
taco 116
minikerr34
Super Smash Bros
AZ_Axe244
Other Games
PiGStarcraft787
C9.Mang0333
XaKoH 251
Maynarde137
Livibee92
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1114
BasetradeTV118
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH103
• Hupsaiya 100
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
7h 40m
CrankTV Team League
9h 40m
OSC
11h 40m
OSC
16h 10m
Replay Cast
22h 40m
Escore
1d 8h
CrankTV Team League
1d 9h
OSC
1d 21h
Replay Cast
1d 22h
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
2 days
ByuN vs SHIN
Solar vs Lambo
WardiTV Summer Champion…
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Clem vs Serral
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Summer Champion…
3 days
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-07-29
SCTL 2026 Spring
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W5
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
Acropolis #5
Escore Tournament S3: W6
Escore Tournament S3: W7
Escore Tournament S3: W8
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.