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resilve
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom678 Posts
February 21 2011 19:34 GMT
#161
I dont know if you guys have actually tried it, but trying to hold a conversation, or listen to instructions whilst playing a game is seriously difficult - let alone live to an audience. When im playing ladder I am not even paying attention to a single note of seriously loud music a few inches from my face - need maximum focus to do my best.

Its kind of an inherent problem with any kind of live coaching, I guess either Carmac needs to practice under these circumstances, or Rotti needs to learn how to condense information to only say a few words about the very most important things in a game.

In any case, I dont think it is fair to criticize too much that someone struggles to do this - try it yourself by putting on an audiobook/radio talkshow or such and try focus on every word while laddering :p

I love the fact each show is getting better tho - in production aswell as Carmac's skills ^^
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Carmac
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland375 Posts
February 21 2011 20:20 GMT
#162
No worries, guys. This is a new concept and we're learning how to perfect it as we go along.

I think for the next show we'll come up with a series of drills and focus on replay analysis rather than playing live matches (unless they are challenges like the one vs. Phil from Fnatic).

By the way: I want to LEARN to play the game properly, not cheese or all in every single game. I just wanted to get a solid build order learned properly so I can execute it well, then begin to find basic deviations, etc. etc.

I think I'll be posting some replays soon so people could actually give me tips as well, if you're interested (I know some people are and I'm grateful for it) =)
www.intelextrememasters.com
fraugos
Profile Joined January 2011
Spain8 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-21 20:36:58
February 21 2011 20:32 GMT
#163
Post some of your home replays so we could see you without the liveshow presure.

BTW: do you know when the VOD will be upload? I couldn´t make it on time so i miss part of the show.
Carmac
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland375 Posts
February 21 2011 20:51 GMT
#164
On February 22 2011 05:32 fraugos wrote:
Post some of your home replays so we could see you without the liveshow presure.

BTW: do you know when the VOD will be upload? I couldn´t make it on time so i miss part of the show.


I expect it to be up tomorrow.
www.intelextrememasters.com
ffz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States490 Posts
February 21 2011 21:33 GMT
#165
LOL i watched episode 1... man you have to use the space bar more often and also micro ur scouts and just use hotkeys to build. It was pretty funny seeing you try to macro with just mouse and click and occasional hotkey.
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Phenny
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1435 Posts
February 23 2011 13:07 GMT
#166
Just watched ep3, Rotty is right you do make it harder than you need to, I think you will continue to learn though and reach plat soon enough.

Also it must be really unnerving and easy to make mistakes due to not having the home comfort feel that you'd be used to.
raz`
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom33 Posts
February 23 2011 14:42 GMT
#167
You're not practicing enough - you need to MASS games MUCH more. 3 and a half weeks and it says you've played just over 100 games on your bnet profile. If I was playing even semi-serious I would do that amount of games in a couple of days.
Carmac
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland375 Posts
February 24 2011 19:20 GMT
#168
On February 23 2011 23:42 raz` wrote:
You're not practicing enough - you need to MASS games MUCH more. 3 and a half weeks and it says you've played just over 100 games on your bnet profile. If I was playing even semi-serious I would do that amount of games in a couple of days.


Hey man, I have a day job, which happens to be making sure the Intel Extreme Masters World Championship is awesome. The event is in 4 days ;-)
www.intelextrememasters.com
Carmac
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland375 Posts
February 24 2011 19:20 GMT
#169
Updated the OP with the VOD link: http://tv.esl.eu/de/vod/view/22759
www.intelextrememasters.com
Rylaji
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden580 Posts
February 26 2011 02:27 GMT
#170
I agree with Rotterdam on the part that you try to do alot more advanced stuff that doesnt really pay of in the lower leagues.

For example, you do your fake SG into 4 gate, sure it's good. But if your opponent is too noob to watch what he is scouting, which is a reality in that lvl of play, I did the same thing when I was lower league. I would send out an SCV, but I was so busy doing other things I didnt rly watch what it was scouting all the time, then your tact is just a waste of gas and time.

Instead learn to 4-gate or 3-gate-robo and do it well, because it might sound and seem boring. But there is a BIG difference in a good and a bad 4-gate. So much can go wrong, so trying to do WP drops or Immortal drops or such is just not good for you. I know how it feels to watch pro's play and wanting to copy their stuff, but in reality it's soooo much more than just copying it. You need the timing, the gameplay sense and reaction time.

GL man, I think u will be in Plat in 13 days!
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deathly rat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom911 Posts
February 26 2011 03:55 GMT
#171
I enjoy watching your show. I think it might be better if you find it hard to play whilst Rotterdam is talking to you, then maybe he can tell you what he wants you to do before the game, and then you can talk about it after (and he can just commentate during the game). You need to try to just listen more and give him a chance to say whatever point he is trying to make.
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Doitsujin
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany6 Posts
February 26 2011 22:42 GMT
#172
Carmac.. whats up? 5 days no game at all... I have the slight feeling in my urine,..that it could become hard to get in masters.. ^^

Good luck anyway! I will continue following the show.
what quote ?
Doitsujin
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany6 Posts
March 04 2011 17:32 GMT
#173
man... another week and no game.. Carmac.. You will fail so hard.. Maybe become downgraded to silver.. xD Thats funny. ... hehe ...eh..sad..of course. I had great hope... :./
what quote ?
dizzy101
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2066 Posts
March 04 2011 17:33 GMT
#174
Eh.. they're busy organising the best non-Korean SC2 tourney worldwide?! Give the guys a break, they'll be back
R3m3mb3rM3
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany954 Posts
March 04 2011 17:36 GMT
#175
ive got a question

i won that maradeur nooby thing
has been 2 weeks or something and i thought esl is contacting me but nothing happend yet ^^
just wanted to post a little reminder

hopefully i will get that thing after all
Doitsujin
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany6 Posts
March 05 2011 15:27 GMT
#176
On March 05 2011 02:33 dizzy101 wrote:
Eh.. they're busy organising the best non-Korean SC2 tourney worldwide?! Give the guys a break, they'll be back



Yeah...heard about that..everybody is talking about it.. But..I am too dumb to find the streams... I read somewhere that streams were forbidden by some pissed-off-company.. But I don´t know if that is right.

Well,.. do you have links to streams and times when they are actually on air? (I don´t mean the counter strike streams and that where take throws stuff into the crowd of nerds, while moaning about they don´t shout enough..^^ Man... they are nerds... shouting is very unnatural to em,..except they get owned by a couple of banelings. rofl. xD
what quote ?
Carmac
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland375 Posts
March 06 2011 20:33 GMT
#177
Hey kids, we're coming back Monday at 19:00 CET! Both Rotti and I are super tired from the Intel Extreme Masters World Championship, but I want to be Platinum asap! =)
www.intelextrememasters.com
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
March 06 2011 20:51 GMT
#178
On March 07 2011 05:33 Carmac wrote:
Hey kids, we're coming back Monday at 19:00 CET! Both Rotti and I are super tired from the Intel Extreme Masters World Championship, but I want to be Platinum asap! =)


Carmac fighting!
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
March 06 2011 20:53 GMT
#179
On March 07 2011 05:33 Carmac wrote:
Hey kids, we're coming back Monday at 19:00 CET! Both Rotti and I are super tired from the Intel Extreme Masters World Championship, but I want to be Platinum asap! =)


You looked like you were ready to die up there on stage at the end. Take a vacation and rest! You deserve it! Great event.
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
RotterdaM
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands684 Posts
March 06 2011 21:02 GMT
#180
Tune in tomorrow bad lads , some IEM Recap as Carmac said and I'll try to hammer a bit more on the basics, free training for everyone who aint 3k+ master league ;P, time that I practise myself a bit as well though haha, barely played since Cebit, but I'll take care of that, cu tomorrow 19 cet as always
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