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Slunk
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany768 Posts
February 14 2011 19:20 GMT
#121
Haha in those games he was hillariously bad. This is also how all my friends react when i try to teach them something.
stolensheep
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom306 Posts
February 14 2011 19:26 GMT
#122
I think the way rotterdam is teaching carmac is fine, it just seems that carmac doesn't have the apm & mechanics to do everything that rotterdam says!
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Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-14 19:39:05
February 14 2011 19:30 GMT
#123
On February 15 2011 04:19 vdale wrote:
I don't think that Rotterdam is teaching Carmac the right way. Jumping between bases and scouting isn't really important in the gold league. He should give Carmac 1 safe build against each race (e.g. Robo build to be able to defend against DTs and Banshees) and the only thing Carmac should focus on is macro. It's by far the most important thing to learn in sc2.

some tips for rotterdam:
- focus more on probe production
- gold league players should always build more gateways than master league players to keep their money low
- please no cute stuff like harassing with 2 stalker. It hurts so much more than it benefits carmac, because he doesn't do anything else in that time.

If carmac focuses only on macro, defends everything and only attacks at 200/200 he will be a diamond player. I know that, I've taught my brother like that and he started to micro his units at the time he was in diamond.


Very good suggestions. Also laddering is probably not the best way to teach these things, get a decent player to play customs on a specific map in one matchup per week.

Also MrBitter's way is the one i personally think is the best. The pro (Rotti) plays 1 or 2 games against the guy to show what he wants carmac to do and takes him through is thought process, if possible he can even answer Carmac's questions during the game. Afterwards he can try himself. That way teaching is way more specific and Carmac will be able to get a much deeper understanding into WHY he does certain things in a situation.

Besides that, i find both Rotti and Carmac hilarious and soo likeable, i would probably watch anything they do. Keep up the show, this will also motivate many people to try to improve as well.
kmkg
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan186 Posts
February 14 2011 19:30 GMT
#124
On February 15 2011 04:26 stolensheep wrote:
I think the way rotterdam is teaching carmac is fine, it just seems that carmac doesn't have the apm & mechanics to do everything that rotterdam says!


Exactly, so you try to get down one basic mechanic at a time. Very early harass was overdoing it. Once muscle memory for good macro kicks in you can work on the finer points.
Carmac
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland375 Posts
February 14 2011 20:00 GMT
#125
I have to say that I thought I would do much better today =(

Please note what I can and should improve on - I will certainly work on this at home.
www.intelextrememasters.com
Rakkat
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom69 Posts
February 14 2011 20:14 GMT
#126
On February 15 2011 05:00 Carmac wrote:
I have to say that I thought I would do much better today =(

Please note what I can and should improve on - I will certainly work on this at home.


You did much better this week compared to last week.

Watch day9 daily #252. Lots of stuff there you can learn from.
"I have just narrowly avoided having a buggering, and have come in here with the express intention of wishing one upon you."
ffz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States490 Posts
February 14 2011 20:19 GMT
#127
where are the vods for 2 and 3?
Meow.
shaunnn
Profile Joined October 2010
Ireland1230 Posts
February 14 2011 20:25 GMT
#128
On February 15 2011 05:19 ffz wrote:
where are the vods for 2 and 3?


2 just aired today, 3 not till next monday
The naniwa - Unit of protoss skill, defined as the number of gates you build off of one base
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
February 14 2011 21:00 GMT
#129
On February 15 2011 03:31 teumas wrote:
Lol, carmac getting slapped for bm. Hilarious


for rela o_0 ?

i need VODS!
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Carmac
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland375 Posts
February 14 2011 21:34 GMT
#130
You'll get VODs. My Immortal micro will be stuff of legends...
www.intelextrememasters.com
Rylaji
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden580 Posts
February 14 2011 23:23 GMT
#131
So only the pilot is up on VOD atm?
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gn1k
Profile Joined July 2010
United States441 Posts
February 15 2011 09:35 GMT
#132
I saw the first episode today. It was really fun to watch. I am quite looking forward to the next episode to be out as a VOD. Glad to hear you made it to gold league Carmack. Day 9 has mentioned how hard it is to talk and play at the same time.
Creator of Street Empires and APM TD
Carmac
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland375 Posts
February 15 2011 09:40 GMT
#133
On February 15 2011 08:23 Rylaji wrote:
So only the pilot is up on VOD atm?


Yes. We will hopefully upload yesterday's show today.
www.intelextrememasters.com
Deckkie
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1595 Posts
February 15 2011 14:37 GMT
#134
On February 15 2011 18:40 Carmac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2011 08:23 Rylaji wrote:
So only the pilot is up on VOD atm?


Yes. We will hopefully upload yesterday's show today.


Cool, thanks! can you bump when the VOD is up?
Always look on the bright side of life
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
February 15 2011 14:47 GMT
#135
i think its counterproductive if Rotti tries to teach you things in a running game. He should commentate and point out mistakes for the viewers and let you play without distraction. And then analyze the replay, where Rotti shows you mistakes, asks you why you are doing certain things etc.
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spacemunkee
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States51 Posts
February 15 2011 15:37 GMT
#136
I really enjoyed the first episode and can't wait for the VOD for the 2nd ep. Being in bronze and working my way up myself, I find these types of resources great. I noticed in the first episode that carmac clicks everything. I would hope hot keys and tapping are big part of episode 2. It would probably have the most immediate impact on his play. I know it did for me.
Phenny
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1435 Posts
February 15 2011 16:59 GMT
#137
This has a lot of potential at being really awesome imo, first ep was hilarious though.
Really eager to see more :D
yosata
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands60 Posts
February 15 2011 20:52 GMT
#138
the second vod is ready to watch :D
http://tv.esl.eu/de/vod/view/22741

i am watching it right now, because i missed the live show :'(
Oftentimes the impossible is only difficult!
gn1k
Profile Joined July 2010
United States441 Posts
February 16 2011 03:00 GMT
#139
@Carmac
I just enjoyed the second episode. I can already see you are playing better. These are a couple thoughts I had about your play in the games.

In the PvT game on Steppes of War right after you got dropped and lost tons of probes. I think you should have tried to attack him. Your econ was so damaged that your opponent was sure to be further ahead of you in five minutes because he was just mining the whole time and lost 0 workers.

Also on the PvT on close positions on Metalopolis. It was really bad to attack with your 3 imortals a 5 zealots. You had just spent a ton of money on your expansion and had not yet made the money back so your army was sure to be smaller than your opponent.
Creator of Street Empires and APM TD
Carmac
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland375 Posts
February 16 2011 14:59 GMT
#140
Hey guys, VOD link is added to the OP.

Also: thanks for the feedback. Everything you guys write here as advice is very highly appreciated. I do want to become a much better player than now and I am slowly getting there.
www.intelextrememasters.com
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