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I contacted with GomTV to get permission to restream, but they politely denied. There will be no more restream
Restream Status
OFF
URL
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Xeph
Chat Room
Feel free to join a chat for feedback or something.
Map pool
Tal'Darim Altar, Crossfire SE, Terminus RE, Legacy of the Void, Crevasse, Merry-Go-Round
More Information: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=182734
Players
KR Battle.net Master League amateurs, Progamers
Prizes
- 5 winning streak: Corsair Voyager Mini 8GB USB memory stick
- 8 winning streak: Corsair Voyager 8GB USB memory stick
- 10 winning streak: HV GeForce GTS450 iStar D5 512MB
- 13 winning streak: Corsair Force Series SSD F60 60GB
- 15 winning streak: XENON GeForce GTX460 MAXX D5 1GB Turbo Cool
- 18 winning streak: Bitfenix Survivor PC Case
- 20 winning streak: EVGA GeForce GTX580 D5 1.5GB
VODs for past matchs
http://ch.gomtv.com/4555/28119
Gisado Star-Challenge is testing candidate maps for next GSL season. For more information, read this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=182734
Original stream is free on Korea, but now there's no official stream for foreigners.
Have fun and join the chat room for feedbacks or questions.
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THANX, always looking forward to your streams.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
Edit:nevermind already noted.
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Thx for stream, very very nice to see the test process of the new maps and possible strats etc. 
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Wow thanks a ton, I really want to see these new matches in action and I need something to watch after the GSL anyways. Thanks you for linking us to this stuff from Korea!
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Ooooh. Great quality :3 Thanks for the stream. I hope I'm able to play some new maps soon 
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again, youre a total baller xeph
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Thanks a ton Xeph. Such awesomeness
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Thanks for this!
Crossfire looks great. This TvP is already a macro game. Gisado should test this with BitbyBit though.
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On January 19 2011 21:03 dubRa wrote:
Thanks for this!
Crossfire looks great. This TvP is already a macro game. Gisado should test this with BitbyBit though.
If DAVIT and BitByBitPrime can play a macro game on one of these maps, they have to be good.
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Thanks some of these maps are really nice
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Sick game. Protoss seems to have the better engagement angle every time on the map though.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
Psi Storms and forcefields...yeah they rape shit....Journey needed to make a few tanks.
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pretty cool, huge props for streaming this!
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On January 19 2011 21:06 Numy wrote:
Sick game. Protoss seems to have the better engagement angle every time on the map though.
With the way the map is structured on those sides paths around the center with choke ramps going down, a MMM composition was a bad choice. The force fields zoned them very hard and the Colossi with 9 range simply cut everything down. There was no room for Terran to maneuver in those engagements. I think he should have gone a more tank heavy composition with the map features, even though tanks aren't too popular vs. Protoss. Colossi can stroll around the middle and Thermal Lance the terran's army the entire time it's trying to reach an engagement.
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Had no idea TDA was THAT big.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
Did they make Tal-Darim Altar smaller?Looks much better now.
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Xeph even translating! Such a baller
@VonBlucher - That makes sense. I think mech is more viable now since blizzard nerfed Speedrays. Not sure though?
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Just by the first minutes of the game Tal-Darim Altar really seems tempting. I really love the map so far
EDIT: but that choke is really small without high ground advantage. Hmmm
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Holy cow, how did he break 3 bunkers + marauders
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We finally get some bigger, epic maps....and he four gates.
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United Kingdom16710 Posts
Confirmed: 4 gate works on this map.....
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On January 19 2011 21:16 sammler wrote:
We finally get some bigger, epic maps....and he four gates.
lol
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On January 19 2011 21:16 sammler wrote:
We finally get some bigger, epic maps....and he four gates.
That's exactly what I wanted to post, unfortunately you were faster.
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On January 19 2011 21:16 sammler wrote:
We finally get some bigger, epic maps....and he four gates.
: )
well i think its actually interesting to see how cheese and allin-play works out on those maps
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On January 19 2011 21:18 whoso wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2011 21:16 sammler wrote:
We finally get some bigger, epic maps....and he four gates. : ) well i think its actually interesting to see how cheese and allin-play works out on those maps
Yea better maps shouldn't mean Cheese isn't viable. Want maps where everything is viable.
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Thanks for this, also for the translations and mapinfo and stuff that you provide
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What is this "glow-ish" effect around buildings? I don't have it,even at ultra,is some map side enable lighting option ?
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On January 19 2011 21:14 Numy wrote:
Xeph even translating! Such a baller
@VonBlucher - That makes sense. I think mech is more viable now since blizzard nerfed Speedrays. Not sure though?
I'm by no means a good player but I like to theorycraft a lot. I personally think that Mech is good for a mid-game timing push, but as the game drags into lategame it becomes less and less viable. The problem is Protoss received an absurd amount of mech counters in Starcraft 2 that make going pure mech very underwhelming against them if they can receive it.
First, there is the Immortal which just roflstomps all over tanks for their cost. Whatever way you go about it, receiving 10 damage from tank shots is damn good and 50 damage to armored wrecked everything but Helions.
Secondly, Zealot Charge. As if speedalots didn't scare a meching playing hard enough, Chargelots instantly breaking into your lines and cause your tanks to splash your own troops. Chargelots are simply good against mech where they can get quick surrounds and form fighting lines which make Helions far less effectively unless micro-ed properly to flank.
Dragoons in Broodwar melted to Mech, but while Stalkers are still not overly great they are a big improvement. They have less range than upgraded goons (I think?) but their AI is smarter than a wet paper bag so you can get a lot shooting very quickly. Blink will also help immensely for closing distances into siege tanks lines and bringing more Stalker fire to bare.
And of course Thors are awful against armored air, but I feel if mech play takes off it'll have to integrate Vikings. They're not a bad choice, remind me of Goliaths and even have similar performance. They require pretty good micro and decision making though (How many vikings to keep in the air and how many to land to help in the ground fight?). Still, Vikings don't have the best time with Void Rays and if Protoss gains air dominance with Void Rays you won't have any real defense with pure mech, even Turret pushing isn't very good since buildings take extra damage from Voids.
Now of course, it all -depends- on Protoss getting all this stuff. So that's why I think Mech will be good for mid-game timing pushes vs. Protoss and not a viable late game strategy. But what do I know? People used to think meching was impossible vs. Zerg in BW but Fantasy is just a baller.
Edit: And I forgot Phoenixes, but actually a good number of Thors can deal with that well. Negating tanks for a time is obviously bad though.
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I was so looking forward to watching Gisado again, thank you so much!
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GG. Fun game. I bet Ret will have a banana grin when he sees this.
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After watching that last ZvT on Crevasse, I think that a map that big will be very hard to stop a zerg with half a brain on. The distances are so far, and terran units are so slow, that you really can't punish the zerg enough, if at all. I think that on maps this size, we will see more broodwar-esqe turret building and seige tank placement against zerg while just constantly taking bases. That seems to be the only way that you could stop a zerg on a map this big. Super fast air units, and even faster ground units make terran unable to really leave their base to do anything about a zerg taking expansions. PvZ, though, I could see being a very fun matchup with lots of stargate + mass cannon play against zerg.
*I would love more than anything to see a TvT with good players on this map. Thinking about the epic chess match that is TvT on a map with this many expansions, and of this magnitude, makes me salivate. I already can't wait to see a TvT in the next GSL if these maps are accepted. No more repetitive 1-2 base timing pushes (hopefully)!
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those forcefields were not that great, seems like the protoss had something in mind with the placement of them the first time around. Second though near the end I have no clue.
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Anyone else think NEXSkit was NEXshit? LOL
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Zergs are dominating this koth atm. I think most T and P havent changed their builds to account for the longer rush distances and just send their pitifully sized armies across to get raped by 2 spawn larvas worth of reinforcements
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On January 19 2011 22:11 mierin wrote:
Anyone else think NEXSkit was NEXshit? LOL
In swedish you spell shit exactly like that(skit) :D
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On January 19 2011 22:28 FarbrorAbavna wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2011 22:11 mierin wrote:
Anyone else think NEXSkit was NEXshit? LOL In swedish you spell shit exactly like that(skit) :D
Yea... funny thing.
Also, BUMP! I know people like to see gisado.
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wow this map looks so brood war esque
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Why aint this stream on TL streaming list? would be so much easier to find.
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maybe it's just me but everything on tal'darim altar seems tiny :D
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Ahh, good old Carriers, never ceases to amaze
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Always <3 your streams Xeph, thanks a boatload mate!
I'll be watching this!
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Stream ends.
Next stream is 2011-01-20 22:00 KST, right after Code A.
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Crap. It ends just as I tune in.
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Great stream Xeph, the resolution is just insane almost like watching it ingame. Will definitely be tuning in tomorrow. Thanks for doing this!
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United States7481 Posts
lol, gisado just posted on his twitter that (i think) he's facebook friends with SNSD's Taeyeon
thanks for restreaming this Xeph, there were a bunch of people that used to watch his official stream on livestream but since he was hired by GOM all we had were VODs.
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Okay I tuned in, this number 8-0 for Hairy what does it mean?
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On January 20 2011 20:12 Patriot.dlk wrote:
Okay I tuned in, this number 8-0 for Hairy what does it mean?
That is winning streak.
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He won 8 straight? Or his "team"
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On January 20 2011 20:18 Patriot.dlk wrote:
He won 8 straight? Or his "team"
HE
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Today Gisado Star-Challenge is going to use ladder map also.
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Thank you for this!
Always wanted to see the new maps in action
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On January 21 2011 00:15 Xeph wrote:
Stream ends.
Is gisado today? Are you going to restream it?
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just tuned in.
How are the new maps playing? Good games? Same as before?
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Oh man, and I thought I was going to be productive at work today. Any opinions on the maps so far from people who've seen the last broadcast? Other than "big map = good" of course. Any intricacies worth noting?
And is NEXTaeJa on a 16 game streak?
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On January 21 2011 23:39 FLuE wrote:
just tuned in.
How are the new maps playing? Good games? Same as before?
New maps are great, and produce macro games
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thanks for update and stream.
looking forward to seeing some good games on these maps.
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On January 21 2011 23:42 Shoe555 wrote:
Oh man, and I thought I was going to be productive at work today. Any opinions on the maps so far from people who've seen the last broadcast? Other than "big map = good" of course. Any intricacies worth noting?
And is NEXTaeJa on a 16 game streak?
Yes he is.
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Wow those Phoenixes just evaporated.
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Looks like it lags like hell.
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holy shit that mass viking + marauder vs mass pheonix + colo fight was insane
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Lol taeja is in a 17 game winning streak!!
to bad i don't understand korean this stream would be much better!
Thank you Xeph!
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Thanks for the restream.
So far some of the new maps are looking great.
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Thanks for this, really cool to see high level play on these candidates.
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The Map Terminus looks very nice !
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Does the overlay mean TaeJa is on a 17 win streak?
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On January 22 2011 00:18 floor exercise wrote:
Does the overlay mean TaeJa is on a 17 win streak?
Yes
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So far taeja vs fire resembles a lot BW games
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if someone wins 18 times in a row, does he only get the 18 wins prize of he get all the prizes on the way ( 5wins prize + 10 wins prize + ... + 18wins prize)
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Really good game going on right now. I can already imagine how good the next code S season of GSL will be.
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sick. holy shit what, what a game. i love these bigger maps if they all end this epic i really thought taeja had it, but happy he didn't :D
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Those ultras popped JUST in time...Taeja is out.
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On January 22 2011 00:26 dtz wrote:
if someone wins 18 times in a row, does he only get the 18 wins prize of he get all the prizes on the way ( 5wins prize + 10 wins prize + ... + 18wins prize)
Only 18 streak prize
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You see, all SC2 needs are good maps, great game on Terminus.
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taeja is out, he lost all his production facilities. oh and terminus looks so awesome!
Imagine 2 macro guys duking it out here... ohh the possibilities
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Fire just needs to park an ultra at each of his expos to stop the useless medivac harass while he follows CCs around
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LOL @ the one marine behind the bugged position
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lol that marine hiding there
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holy...Taeja making an epic 3 marine comeback against a jillion ultras.
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taeja could win if he gets banshees :D he has the money.
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The commentator should show the Map.
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On January 22 2011 00:43 Saiwa wrote:
The commentator should show the Map.
They've played on these maps for weeks now so wouldn't make sense to show them every time
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LOL
did he said 'adios amigo'?
fun game on tal darim altar
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On January 22 2011 01:15 fabiano wrote:
LOL
did he said 'adios amigo'?
fun game on tal darim altar
Yes he did. Can you read Korean? lol
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Im learning
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They don't know when they have to leave the game, the 5 last minutes are just plain nonsense...
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Epic stuff. Thanx for the stream. This is future sc2 looks like.
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Thanks for the stream Xeph <3
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It's amazing how much better games you can get when you play on proper maps.
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Thanks Xeph.
I'm not gonna lie, I've more fun watching Gisado than GSL games. So much better maps give us so much better games.
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I know a site that has these Gisado VODs for download. Not too sure how legal it is, even if the Gisado VODs are free.
So, if you miss Xeph's restream, want to rewatch a VOD with the ability to rewind/forward, or get bad speeds to the official VOD stream. Send me a PM, and I'll give you the link.
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Stream ON
It's Saturday on Korea, so Gisado and Startale_RandomKing are going to do some kind of event things. Now Startale_RandomKing is laddering.
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On January 22 2011 19:23 Xeph wrote:
Stream ON
It's Saturday on Korea, so Gisado and Startale_RandomKing are going to do some kind of event things. Now Startale_RandomKing is laddering.
RandomKing is on Gisado every saturday and they do fun stuff like FFA, team play, laddering, custom games vs bronze players and stuff
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On January 22 2011 19:35 silentreality wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2011 19:23 Xeph wrote:
Stream ON
It's Saturday on Korea, so Gisado and Startale_RandomKing are going to do some kind of event things. Now Startale_RandomKing is laddering. RandomKing is on Gisado every saturday and they do fun stuff like FFA, team play, laddering, custom games vs bronze players and stuff
Information about Startale_RandomKing: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players/170_Max
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www.own3d.tv doesnt work for me since 2 days somehow... i just get a black picture without anything, anyone knows why that could be? rly would like to watch this stream
i tried it with IE and crome... not working :/
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On January 22 2011 19:56 fickazzz wrote:www.own3d.tv doesnt work for me since 2 days somehow... i just get a black picture without anything, anyone knows why that could be? rly would like to watch this stream i tried it with IE and crome... not working :/
I have exactly the same problem
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really cool TvZ, thx for streaming xeph ^_^
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United Kingdom2950 Posts
Hahah wtf was that super loud noise?
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Now Startale_RandomKing vs SlayerSBoxeR on ladder.
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On January 22 2011 21:31 Wunder wrote:
Hahah wtf was that super loud noise?
Startale_RandomKing is now laddering for Code A Feb preliminary. One winning or losing ladder game is critical for him now. That's why he screaming
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United Kingdom2950 Posts
Wow - that was sick, nice TvT vs BoxeR!
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Hope to see this guy get into Code A, I love watching Random players.
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On January 22 2011 20:33 Roggay wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2011 19:56 fickazzz wrote:www.own3d.tv doesnt work for me since 2 days somehow... i just get a black picture without anything, anyone knows why that could be? rly would like to watch this stream i tried it with IE and crome... not working :/ I have exactly the same problem
Try updating flash maybe or try another browser?
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sick damage done by Protoss' Phoenixes. (that's actually his ID, looked him up on sc2ranks.)
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I love how Gisado is talking to him about the game
It makes the game INFINITELY more exciting
(Sorry non Korean speakers!)
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On January 22 2011 22:01 ktimekiller wrote:
I love how Gisado is talking to him about the game
It makes the game INFINITELY more exciting
(Sorry non Korean speakers!)
Right. He is really good at coaching since he is GSL Code A commentator.
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On January 22 2011 22:01 ktimekiller wrote:
I love how Gisado is talking to him about the game
It makes the game INFINITELY more exciting
(Sorry non Korean speakers!)
Aw man, now I wish I understood even more.
T.T
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United Kingdom16710 Posts
LOL Jinro vs Idra Jungle flashback.
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On January 22 2011 22:10 Killmouse wrote:
guineapig is T? :O
Yes, apparently. I don't know he switched his race or not.
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On January 22 2011 22:13 Xeph wrote:Yes, apparently. I don't know he switched his race or not.
Maybe taking a leaf out of ZeNexByun's book.
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This guy is raging so hard. It's cracking me up.
That TvT was extremely annoying to deal with, blueflame hellion drops and banshee harras during the entire game? sheesh.
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On January 22 2011 22:24 Chaosvuistje wrote:
This guy is raging so hard. It's cracking me up.
That TvT was extremely annoying to deal with, blueflame hellion drops and banshee harras during the entire game? sheesh.
I gotta say that was some brutal harass.
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On January 22 2011 22:24 Chaosvuistje wrote:
This guy is raging so hard. It's cracking me up.
That TvT was extremely annoying to deal with, blueflame hellion drops and banshee harras during the entire game? sheesh.
It isn't really rage
Funny nonetheless
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I don't really understand what "Laddering for Code A preliminary" means, does he have to be some special rank to get invited?
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On January 22 2011 22:10 Killmouse wrote:
guineapig is T? :O
he's random on ladder (and wtfbbqing freaking GOOD with random)
Didn't saw the game here, but he was random in his latest streamed session (and made a lot of fan with his skill), perhaps he is now just terran, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was playing random.
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On January 22 2011 22:39 lurkman wrote:
I don't really understand what "Laddering for Code A preliminary" means, does he have to be some special rank to get invited?
Yes. Highest 172 players among appliers can be invited.
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On January 22 2011 22:46 Xeph wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2011 22:39 lurkman wrote:
I don't really understand what "Laddering for Code A preliminary" means, does he have to be some special rank to get invited? Yes. Highest 172 players among appliers can be invited.
Ah ok :D
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I hope Blizzard gave GOMtv a tool to see who actually are the top 172 instead of looking at their points.
Seeing this guy play SC2 from first person perspective really makes me realize how bad I am and how the little micro antics during attacks really help.
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RandomKing will have a hard time qualifying into code A I think...not that he's bad, but he's not good enough I think.
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Great stream, really fun to see some korean pwnage :D
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Wow slam dunk = oGsTheStC????
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On January 22 2011 23:41 EchoZ wrote:
Wow slam dunk = oGsTheStC????
HIGH possibility. He is.
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Slamdunk is now confirmed to be oGsTheStC.
Based on Gisado stream. The evidence is that Slamdunk also uses 7 to hotkey Starport, just like oGsTheStC.
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On January 22 2011 23:58 Amestir wrote:
Slamdunk is now confirmed to be OgSTheStC.
Based on this stream.
Clues
1. Playstyle
2. Hotkey 7 for Startport
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He made it! Congratulations RandomKing!
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Thx Xeph, nothing can be better than watching high level koreans' first person stream
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On January 23 2011 00:08 Xeph wrote:
Restream OFF
Thanx for the stream, always appreciated.
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On January 24 2011 21:36 Xeph wrote:
Restream ON
got home just in time :-) i quite like this gisado star challenge, entertaining.
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Wish it was on earlier T_T
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Thank you for re-streaming (although my country has problem with justin.tv... Howerver, I find a way to circumvent that  ).
Merry-Go-Round seems to be a nice map. And it's also Bunker block at the ramp proof too, lol.
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NEW Candidate Map.
Merry-Go-Round(custom, 회전목마, KR available) by winpark
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/sVFnY.jpg)
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United Kingdom38205 Posts
aw you switched from own3d to jtv?
Thanks for the resteam as usuala though
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Poll: Justin.tv vs Own3d.tvOwn3d.tv (45) 57% Justin.tv (20) 25% Whatever (14) 18% 79 total votes Your vote: Justin.tv vs Own3d.tv (Vote): Justin.tv
(Vote): Own3d.tv
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whatever for me, just pick one that does not lag and i'm good. both services work for me.
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OK, from the overlook of the map, I think I find a possible major flaw in the map.
A player who spawn the the right of another player can easily harass/attack the natural and second expansions of the other player, while the reverse is not. So the "right-side" player should be easier to expand and defend the expansion.
This is because the distance from the main base to the expansion is shorter if it is clock-wise, both by air and by ground (if taking out the rock at the ramp to the third base).
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This 3-player-map looks cool, but quite small? Anyways, I like it because 3-player-maps always have a unique feeling/playstyle: you are always "close position" but there's also always some space outside with expansion and stuff that you also need to control. I've always liked playing on 3-player maps, hopefully this (or any other) 3-player-map gets added.
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Are those neutral supply depots on the 3 player map? How do they work/function (is there anything special or is it a doodad)?
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Cool map , the drop distance isnt nearly as bad as Delta-Quadrant. Don't think that that will be a problem.
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Where do you see neutral supply depots? The gold is blocked by destructible debris I think.
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On January 24 2011 23:03 peeeky wrote:
Are those neutral supply depots on the 3 player map? How do they work/function (is there anything special or is it a doodad)?
I don't think it's doodad. From what I saw, it actually "block" building from being built there so there's no bunker block at that position, or you can not block your ramp at the bottom without taking out the depot first too.
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seeing new maps played is just so refreshing, thank you so much for this restream
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Is there any way to catch any recordings of restreams?
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On January 25 2011 01:06 Xeph wrote:
Stream OFF
Thank you for streaming today.
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United States7481 Posts
did you wait for the ads to finish? there are usually 3-4 15-30 second ads before the game
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Stream ON
New map added today.
Gettysburg
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/KSmJ9.jpg)
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Thanks for doing this, I missed Gisado in my mornings. : )
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Unwatchable for me.
The usual justin.tv lags for euros.
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Thanks for the restream :D
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On January 26 2011 22:59 TeMiL wrote:
gisado is everyday?
Everyday but Sunday.
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God these seem so much better than ladder maps, it seems like every time one is added it looks better than anything we have at the moment.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
Didn't see the stream today....any comments on Gettysberg Xeph?
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Some of the first questions:
- Gisado, who really is he?
- TIG asks for a simple greeting for the fans.
- <StarCraft 2> After launch you had various jobs, now you serve as a commentator?
- I'm curious about your nickname "Gisado." Are you possibly a fan of Sechs Kies? I was a fan of Sechs Kies (haha).
- <StarCraft> We know you have experience in progaming. Please tell us a story from long time ago.
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Is the website down? Or does it only work when it's streaming?
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Hmmm, not sure I like Gettysburg. Sure it's big, but the expansions seem awkward.
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On January 27 2011 14:46 Alphaes wrote:
Is the website down? Or does it only work when it's streaming?
Only works when it's stremaing, and Gisado Star-Challenge usually starts at 22:00 KST
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Thanks for restreaming. Who is the Protoss that's winning btw?
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On January 27 2011 22:33 VeryApe wrote:
Thanks for restreaming. Who is the Protoss that's winning btw?
He is ranked #54 on KR Bnet
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those maps really look better than that first set of "gsl maps"
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that protoss is owning everyone
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United States7481 Posts
On January 27 2011 22:33 VeryApe wrote:
Thanks for restreaming. Who is the Protoss that's winning btw?
 Tails
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Thanks for the restream! These maps are looking really nice.
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Canada13389 Posts
this is cool thanks for restreaming and posting to vods. If I read Korean I could ask which matches were amazing and then watch them :p
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On January 27 2011 23:32 ZeromuS wrote:
this is cool thanks for restreaming and posting to vods. If I read Korean I could ask which matches were amazing and then watch them :p
Today's matches are all great so far.
Go Tails!
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His graphics seem to glow...do want.
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man this toss is tearing it up, first player to get an gtx580?
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United States7481 Posts
he's only at 9 games according to the overlay, still quite a ways to go to the good stuff.
Funny that GuMiho randomed protoss, considering he randomed into mirror all 4 games of his all-kill earlier.
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cool games today
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great games today and very nice stream, hardly any lag whatsoever. much appreciated!
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Does anyone know if and how you can get the VODs from the gom site in LQ? I know i can pause to preload but that's a pain and I'm no HD nerd so I'd prefer LQ. There's a heck of a lot of Hangul on the page, no idea which is the right button...
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NVM! Hooray for google translate, pooh to internet explorer for not having it.
If anyone's interested it's the tick mark just to the right of the big "play" button on the game page, and the second option down.
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is it going to be on today as well?
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On January 28 2011 08:25 kuroshiro wrote:
Does anyone know if and how you can get the VODs from the gom site in LQ? I know i can pause to preload but that's a pain and I'm no HD nerd so I'd prefer LQ. There's a heck of a lot of Hangul on the page, no idea which is the right button...
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NVM! Hooray for google translate, pooh to internet explorer for not having it.
If anyone's interested it's the tick mark just to the right of the big "play" button on the game page, and the second option down.
extremely helpful post, thanks
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No more stream until 10 Feb. I'm on vacation.
Sorry for that.
Happy Lunar New Year from Korea!
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Stream ON
I'm going to stream 2 games between oGs_TheStC and TSL_Clide on new maps
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On February 08 2011 16:49 Xeph wrote:
Stream ON
I'm going to stream 2 games between oGs_TheStC and TSL_Clide on new maps
I saw another new map which was metalopolis like.
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On February 08 2011 16:51 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2011 16:49 Xeph wrote:
Stream ON
I'm going to stream 2 games between oGs_TheStC and TSL_Clide on new maps I saw another new map which was metalopolis like.
It is Coral City. I'm going to update soon.
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A bit surprised this channel isn't featured, it's got quite some quality content from what I've seen.
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Great game. Almost BW-esque TvT thanks to the map.
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On February 08 2011 17:08 Alphaes wrote:
A bit surprised this channel isn't featured, it's got quite some quality content from what I've seen.
second this I realy think this should be featured, such great games
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who is better oGsSTC or IMMVP?
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Clide going for a hidden CC in another mains natural. theSTC going for same build but in his own natural.
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On February 08 2011 17:16 cilinder007 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2011 17:08 Alphaes wrote:
A bit surprised this channel isn't featured, it's got quite some quality content from what I've seen. second this I realy think this should be featured, such great games
Yeah, it should be featured. Just saw the Stream once.
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Defensively sieging from the bottom of the central swastika shaped platform is working out real well for theSTC.
No missrate to the highground and the L of the platforms arms to get down makes it really difficult to take on the sieged tanks.
Now he just pushed up the platform with a ridiculous amount of tanks with +2 weapons upgrade and immedietly loses half of them as Clide has sieged defensively at the bottom.
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these games have been so back and forth its unreal
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These new maps are great :D
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stim marauder destroy the tank line so bad. gg
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Live Gisado restream will be ON after GSTL
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Lol, i see why i might think there is no Stream when i check the Threat.
After seeing the Red Color I immediately thought that the Stream was off....
You should really make it Green when the Stream is on.
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On February 08 2011 17:44 Xeph wrote:
Live Gisado restream will be ON after GSTL
for how long will it be on ?
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On February 08 2011 17:48 cilinder007 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2011 17:44 Xeph wrote:
Live Gisado restream will be ON after GSTL for how long will it be on ?
Usually 22:00 KST ~ 01:00 KST
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The more BW-esque tank play, the better. Really enjoyed the STC vs Clide game, especially since it invoked the spirit of BW with mech-based macro play. It seems that these new maps are the key for macro games.
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I contacted with GomTV to get permission to restream, but they denided. There will be no more restream
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On February 12 2011 10:42 Xeph wrote:
I contacted with GomTV to get permission to restream, but they denided. There will be no more restream
this makes me really sad. But what about the Progamer stream? will that still be on? (The ones where you stream MC theSTC Genius etc.)
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On February 12 2011 10:49 Jerax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2011 10:42 Xeph wrote:
I contacted with GomTV to get permission to restream, but they denided. There will be no more restream this makes me really sad. But what about the Progamer stream? will that still be on? (The ones where you stream MC theSTC Genius etc.)
Yes.
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On February 08 2011 17:16 Xkalibert wrote:
who is better oGsSTC or IMMVP?
MVP 2-0ed him in gainward so i guess MVP is better.
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GomTV doesn't want us to watch decent games at all? Or are they willing to charge us to watch?
GomTV fails if the answer is yes to any of those questions.
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I don't understand why Gom wouldn't allow a re stream. The only thing I could imagine is that they'll get requests for English casting?
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On February 12 2011 10:50 Xeph wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2011 10:49 Jerax wrote:On February 12 2011 10:42 Xeph wrote:
I contacted with GomTV to get permission to restream, but they denided. There will be no more restream this makes me really sad. But what about the Progamer stream? will that still be on? (The ones where you stream MC theSTC Genius etc.) Yes.
Yay I watch the stream every morning lol. Getting to see the first person view of Korean pros is quite a rare treat, so thanks so much for doing it - I really appreciate it.
On February 12 2011 10:57 netherDrake wrote:MVP 2-0ed him in gainward so i guess MVP is better.
Also MVP just has way more accomplishments. I'd say MVP is just a way more solid player overall.
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On February 12 2011 10:59 fabiano wrote:
GomTV doesn't want us to watch decent games at all? Or are they willing to charge us to watch?
GomTV fails if the answer is yes to any of those questions.
They are planning to provide Gisado Star-Challenge to non-Korean, but it will take long time to prepare that. I have no idea whether or not they going to chart you to watch the stream.
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On February 12 2011 11:01 Gentso wrote:
I don't understand why Gom wouldn't allow a re stream. The only thing I could imagine is that they'll get requests for English casting?
Copyright problem is huge. Actually, if they allow me to restream Gisado Star-Challenge, they should allow the restream request from other people too.
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is there a way to watch it now, idc if it is in korean
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Copyrights, yes. I'm willing to bet subscriptions will start coming in as monthly fees to watch.
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On February 12 2011 11:04 Xeph wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2011 11:01 Gentso wrote:
I don't understand why Gom wouldn't allow a re stream. The only thing I could imagine is that they'll get requests for English casting? Copyright problem is huge. Actually, if they allow me to restream Gisado Star-Challenge, they should allow the restream request from other people too.
Hmmm, Too bad because in the US that isn't true at all. Copyright holder can give permission to one and not another without legal problems. It must be a Korean legal issue.
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On February 12 2011 11:43 pi_rate_pir_ate wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2011 11:04 Xeph wrote:On February 12 2011 11:01 Gentso wrote:
I don't understand why Gom wouldn't allow a re stream. The only thing I could imagine is that they'll get requests for English casting? Copyright problem is huge. Actually, if they allow me to restream Gisado Star-Challenge, they should allow the restream request from other people too. Hmmm, Too bad because in the US that isn't true at all. Copyright holder can give permission to one and not another without legal problems. It must be a Korean legal issue.
Yes you can give permission to one and not another without legal problems in Korea also. What GomTV said to me is kind of 'fairness'
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Let me check this:
Stream for Korean viewers is free. VODs are free to both Korean viewers AND foreigner viewers (I can and do watch Gisado VODs in a regular basis). But, a restream under their conditions is forbidden. Cool move Gretech.
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but shouldnt then be some kind of official stream for foreign viewers ? whats the point of foreigners not being able to watch it live
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stc playing MVP atm on Xeph's stream
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On February 12 2011 11:50 Djagulingu wrote:
Let me check this:
Stream for Korean viewers is free. VODs are free to both Korean viewers AND foreigner viewers (I can and do watch Gisado VODs in a regular basis). But, a restream under their conditions is forbidden. Cool move Gretech.
They should just give you everything you want for free right? Don't be a baby.
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hows about gettin a vlc link of the live program and then open it with GOM player ? Thus i'll still watch gom contents with gom player. It's possible since I used to watch korean gsl by doing so
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holy crap. STC unbelievable multitask harass on MVP at LT and won. attacking all 3 of MVP's minerals line at the same time with drop marines then finish off with big drop in base.
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On February 12 2011 11:48 Xeph wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2011 11:43 pi_rate_pir_ate wrote:On February 12 2011 11:04 Xeph wrote:On February 12 2011 11:01 Gentso wrote:
I don't understand why Gom wouldn't allow a re stream. The only thing I could imagine is that they'll get requests for English casting? Copyright problem is huge. Actually, if they allow me to restream Gisado Star-Challenge, they should allow the restream request from other people too. Hmmm, Too bad because in the US that isn't true at all. Copyright holder can give permission to one and not another without legal problems. It must be a Korean legal issue. Yes you can give permission to one and not another without legal problems in Korea also. What GomTV said to me is kind of 'fairness'
Thanks for the response. It is certainly their prerogative. I sure miss watching Gisado's streams in the morning here.
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It is too bad that they denied you to restream. Although I do get their overall stance on not allowing restreaming. Since it might make people think restreaming GTSL and GSL is fine too.
It will be a hit to my korean progress though. Maybe this thread can remain open as a programer livestream thread AND a recommended Gisado VOD thread? Just an idea.
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On February 13 2011 17:58 StyLeD wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2011 11:50 Djagulingu wrote:
Let me check this:
Stream for Korean viewers is free. VODs are free to both Korean viewers AND foreigner viewers (I can and do watch Gisado VODs in a regular basis). But, a restream under their conditions is forbidden. Cool move Gretech. They should just give you everything you want for free right? Don't be a baby.
I doubt if you really read my post. Thing is, I can and do watch Gisado and it's for free. And this is not a secret, probably Xeph posted how to watch gisado vods from GOM's korean site (someone did but i don't remember if it's Xeph or not). I never asked to reach GSL VODs for free, even though there are some certain ways to get (getting a GOM account under korean proxy is one of them).
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It would be nice for the non-koreans if the VODs where at least uploaded to the other website since the korean website isnt really that fast for most of us. The replays for me just take quite a while to load even in SQ, and usually after 5-10 mins they just stop and I get an endless cycle of ads.
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On February 13 2011 19:17 ket- wrote:
It would be nice for the non-koreans if the VODs where at least uploaded to the other website since the korean website isnt really that fast for most of us. The replays for me just take quite a while to load even in SQ, and usually after 5-10 mins they just stop and I get an endless cycle of ads.
Agreed, I've tried to watch some vod's but it takes hours to buffer and lags really badly when I play it normally.
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On February 13 2011 19:22 Wesso wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2011 19:17 ket- wrote:
It would be nice for the non-koreans if the VODs where at least uploaded to the other website since the korean website isnt really that fast for most of us. The replays for me just take quite a while to load even in SQ, and usually after 5-10 mins they just stop and I get an endless cycle of ads. Agreed, I've tried to watch some vod's but it takes hours to buffer and lags really badly when I play it normally.
GomTV is working on that, I think.
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On February 14 2011 19:03 Xeph wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2011 19:22 Wesso wrote:On February 13 2011 19:17 ket- wrote:
It would be nice for the non-koreans if the VODs where at least uploaded to the other website since the korean website isnt really that fast for most of us. The replays for me just take quite a while to load even in SQ, and usually after 5-10 mins they just stop and I get an endless cycle of ads. Agreed, I've tried to watch some vod's but it takes hours to buffer and lags really badly when I play it normally. GomTV is working on that, I think.
We are indeed.
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usually I can watch vods in low quality with out much trouble, however with HD it's really diffrent. It takes forever to load ;/
Still it's way better than nothing
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I can't watch HD or LQ from here in the UK. Pausing and buffering doesn't even work at all <i.e. the video stutters every second or so>, meaning there's absolutely no way for me to see the videos. Can't they let Xeph stream until it's fixed?
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Xeph, i can only thank you for the content you provide in your stream. I recall watching Gisado on afreeca ages ago with huge lag fests, then followed him constantly on his streams and always appreciated the fact he and some of his fans here on TL took their time to release the replay files of the matches he had on his "King of the Hill".
Then he teamed up with GomTV and its basically all gone. Cant acess the stream, the VOD's take years to load and when they do you get 2 or 3 ads in your face before you even watch any of what you were looking for in the first place, and releasing replay files is gone so no way of actually sharing the content with people that cant watch the GomTV stream because it doesnt work properly on the internet connection, such as myself.
For quite a long time i was able to make VOD's out of the replay files and mentioned Gisado and his event on each and every VOD. Even questioned GomTV about the possibility of releasing the replays and adding some GomTV or Gisado banner on the VOD's in a way to promote them so they feel pleased enough to allow us, non South Korea residents, to enjoy the matches...but no, its not possible.
So currently the situation is: you cant have replay files, you cant watch it, and Xeph restream is forbidden aswell. I understand the legal issues behind it but limiting the access to the content this early on the life of SC2 doesnt seem to promote the product or attract more people to it. Divide and conquer only works when theres enough to divide, and i dont think we've reach that level yet,
Still, its GomTV / Gretech decision and we just have to move along and go watch something else instead.
Meanwhile, just want to thank you Xeph for the restreams taken directly from South Korean pro-gamers (watched oGsTheStC streaming yesterday for example) and mourn for the loss of the Gisado King of the Hill outside South Korea.
Peace.
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On February 14 2011 19:47 Escapist wrote:
Xeph, i can only thank you for the content you provide in your stream. I recall watching Gisado on afreeca ages ago with huge lag fests, then followed him constantly on his streams and always appreciated the fact he and some of his fans here on TL took their time to release the replay files of the matches he had on his "King of the Hill".
Then he teamed up with GomTV and its basically all gone. Cant acess the stream, the VOD's take years to load and when they do you get 2 or 3 ads in your face before you even watch any of what you were looking for in the first place, and releasing replay files is gone so no way of actually sharing the content with people that cant watch the GomTV stream because it doesnt work properly on the internet connection, such as myself.
For quite a long time i was able to make VOD's out of the replay files and mentioned Gisado and his event on each and every VOD. Even questioned GomTV about the possibility of releasing the replays and adding some GomTV or Gisado banner on the VOD's in a way to promote them so they feel pleased enough to allow us, non South Korea residents, to enjoy the matches...but no, its not possible.
So currently the situation is: you cant have replay files, you cant watch it, and Xeph restream is forbidden aswell. I understand the legal issues behind it but limiting the access to the content this early on the life of SC2 doesnt seem to promote the product or attract more people to it. Divide and conquer only works when theres enough to divide, and i dont think we've reach that level yet,
Still, its GomTV / Gretech decision and we just have to move along and go watch something else instead.
Meanwhile, just want to thank you Xeph for the restreams taken directly from South Korean pro-gamers (watched oGsTheStC streaming yesterday for example) and mourn for the loss of the Gisado King of the Hill outside South Korea.
Peace.
Look three posts above yours man
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On February 14 2011 19:49 Klonere wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2011 19:47 Escapist wrote:
Xeph, i can only thank you for the content you provide in your stream. I recall watching Gisado on afreeca ages ago with huge lag fests, then followed him constantly on his streams and always appreciated the fact he and some of his fans here on TL took their time to release the replay files of the matches he had on his "King of the Hill".
Then he teamed up with GomTV and its basically all gone. Cant acess the stream, the VOD's take years to load and when they do you get 2 or 3 ads in your face before you even watch any of what you were looking for in the first place, and releasing replay files is gone so no way of actually sharing the content with people that cant watch the GomTV stream because it doesnt work properly on the internet connection, such as myself.
For quite a long time i was able to make VOD's out of the replay files and mentioned Gisado and his event on each and every VOD. Even questioned GomTV about the possibility of releasing the replays and adding some GomTV or Gisado banner on the VOD's in a way to promote them so they feel pleased enough to allow us, non South Korea residents, to enjoy the matches...but no, its not possible.
So currently the situation is: you cant have replay files, you cant watch it, and Xeph restream is forbidden aswell. I understand the legal issues behind it but limiting the access to the content this early on the life of SC2 doesnt seem to promote the product or attract more people to it. Divide and conquer only works when theres enough to divide, and i dont think we've reach that level yet,
Still, its GomTV / Gretech decision and we just have to move along and go watch something else instead.
Meanwhile, just want to thank you Xeph for the restreams taken directly from South Korean pro-gamers (watched oGsTheStC streaming yesterday for example) and mourn for the loss of the Gisado King of the Hill outside South Korea.
Peace. Look three posts above yours man
Thank you and yes, i did read the posts above me. If by any chance you're mentioning the "we're working on it" post, i would like to mention that its always great to have GomTV "working on it" to improve the quality of the provided content, but as im sure you know, they've been "working on it" in several fronts such as:
- complaints about people paying the premium stream service and not being able to watch the live events and being reduced to VOD's
- people not being able to watch the LQ free stream due to huge lag spikes (myself included)
- receiving the premium payment but not allowing acess to the payed service by the paying costumer
This are only a small fraction of the existant complaints while we wait for them to "work on it".
Im not assuming or demanding GomTV / Gretech to be perfect. What i was proposing was a concept closer to "since we're working on it and cant ensure a 99.9% quality service yet, we're not blocking acess to the information untill we can provide such quality service".
Like i stated above, im aware of the legal issues behind it but being inflexible or limit yourself to literal legal interpretation usually ends up in doing more injustice than justice. I respect the organization and the people "working on it" so dont take any of the above mentioned in an offensive way since that wasnt the intention...just my two cents.
Peace.
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+ Show Spoiler + On February 14 2011 19:47 Escapist wrote:
Xeph, i can only thank you for the content you provide in your stream. I recall watching Gisado on afreeca ages ago with huge lag fests, then followed him constantly on his streams and always appreciated the fact he and some of his fans here on TL took their time to release the replay files of the matches he had on his "King of the Hill".
Then he teamed up with GomTV and its basically all gone. Cant acess the stream, the VOD's take years to load and when they do you get 2 or 3 ads in your face before you even watch any of what you were looking for in the first place, and releasing replay files is gone so no way of actually sharing the content with people that cant watch the GomTV stream because it doesnt work properly on the internet connection, such as myself.
For quite a long time i was able to make VOD's out of the replay files and mentioned Gisado and his event on each and every VOD. Even questioned GomTV about the possibility of releasing the replays and adding some GomTV or Gisado banner on the VOD's in a way to promote them so they feel pleased enough to allow us, non South Korea residents, to enjoy the matches...but no, its not possible.
So currently the situation is: you cant have replay files, you cant watch it, and Xeph restream is forbidden aswell. I understand the legal issues behind it but limiting the access to the content this early on the life of SC2 doesnt seem to promote the product or attract more people to it. Divide and conquer only works when theres enough to divide, and i dont think we've reach that level yet,
Still, its GomTV / Gretech decision and we just have to move along and go watch something else instead.
Meanwhile, just want to thank you Xeph for the restreams taken directly from South Korean pro-gamers (watched oGsTheStC streaming yesterday for example) and mourn for the loss of the Gisado King of the Hill outside South Korea.
Peace.
Yes much thanks to all the effort from everyone promoting Gisado's excellent work. And it really is too bad they won't release replays with some sort of GOM banner. Maybe that's a patch Blizzard can help with?!
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