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bLooD.
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany470 Posts
January 21 2011 21:03 GMT
#461
awesome stuff. Keep it up.
This is gonna help alot of us.
magha
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands427 Posts
January 21 2011 22:04 GMT
#462
On January 22 2011 04:51 Logginurkeyz wrote:
FYI -- 12 Weeks schedule for next week (cheese / all-in play) is:

Monday 1/24 6pm EST (GMT-5) // 8am tuesday in KST (GMT+9) -- ROOT.Catz
Tuesday 1/25 6pm EST (GMT-5) // 8am wednesday in KST (GMT+9) -- EG.iNcontroL
Thursday 1/27 6pm EST (GMT-5) // 8am friday in KST (GMT+9) -- EG.Machine


Really looking forward to this, been trying to mix up some cheese in with my ladder play. Not really doing a good job so far lol. Its just that im so jealous on those 3rax or 4gate builds which end the game really fast, whereas my games always take like 15-25 minutes. I'd love to have some good cheese builds :D
Oleksandr
Profile Joined July 2010
United States227 Posts
January 21 2011 23:05 GMT
#463
Oh, yeah, son!

ZvT 2rax with EGMachine is up! http://mrbitter.blip.tv/file/4663532/
Idra: good sir, you appear to be somewhat lacking in intelligence. please refrain from posting until this is remedied, since it renders your opinions slightly less than correct and has a tendency to irritate more informed forum-goers.
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
January 22 2011 00:05 GMT
#464
Holy crap its been awhile since I updated the OP.

Every VOD from every session from Week 0: Foundations, up through this past week focusing on 2 Rax is uploaded, in in the OP.

Monday. 6PM EST. Catz. Don't miss it!
Colourz
Profile Joined January 2011
England27 Posts
January 22 2011 00:17 GMT
#465
Hey Bitter do you think you can (assuming Machine doesn't mind) share that replay you saved of him vs. poke? Thanks for all the great work it really has helped me along superbly!
eZ.Hunting
Profile Joined December 2010
United States6 Posts
January 22 2011 00:20 GMT
#466
This is really really great I've been looking for top level ZvZ instruction.
BetterFasterStronger
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States604 Posts
January 22 2011 00:26 GMT
#467
glad to see your doing good Flabulous :D you've gotten a lot better since you tried out for my team :D
Top 200 as Protoss - Switched to Terran. 0-30 against EGiNcontroL... God damnet
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
January 22 2011 01:20 GMT
#468
On January 22 2011 09:26 BetterFasterStronger wrote:
glad to see your doing good Flabulous :D you've gotten a lot better since you tried out for my team :D


o.O

I don't recall trying out for any teams....

Machine vs Poke:
http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/129184-1v1-terran-zerg-metalopolis
Colourz
Profile Joined January 2011
England27 Posts
January 22 2011 01:43 GMT
#469
On January 22 2011 10:20 MrBitter wrote:
Machine vs Poke:
http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/129184-1v1-terran-zerg-metalopolis


You're a star!
b3serker
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada11 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-22 03:59:24
January 22 2011 03:59 GMT
#470
Just wondering, is next weeks theme cheesing, handling cheese, or both? Cause I really hope you cover defending against the 8/9/10-pool ling+drones+1/2 spinecrawler all-in. Nubster me still dies to it fairly consistently :s

Again, awesome VODS
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
January 22 2011 04:13 GMT
#471
On January 22 2011 12:59 b3serker wrote:
Just wondering, is next weeks theme cheesing, handling cheese, or both? Cause I really hope you cover defending against the 8/9/10-pool ling+drones+1/2 spinecrawler all-in. Nubster me still dies to it fairly consistently :s

Again, awesome VODS


The focus will be performing cheese, but we can definitely take a second to talk about the right defense against each.
ScarletKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States691 Posts
January 22 2011 06:17 GMT
#472
I'm loving these vods man, great work.

Your hesitance to attack infuriates me sometimes though ^^

Looks like I picked the wrong week the quit sniffing glue
winter017
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States103 Posts
January 22 2011 16:12 GMT
#473
So I just started watching these because I would love to start playing zerg. So far I'm loving it. The insight is fantastic. One question though. What is the music at the beginning of this VOD

12 Weeks with the Pros - Stargate Plays in ZvP with iNcontroL
Dubpace
Profile Joined August 2010
United States251 Posts
January 22 2011 17:21 GMT
#474
MrBitter this has been such an amazing resource for all Zerg players, thank you so much.

A huge shoutout to InControl and Machine for helping with this as well...I will definitely have to take a lesson with them after watching all of these!

If I could just make one suggestion: please, PLEASE put up the production tab when you're watching Machine/Ret play against someone else...this can really help us analyze some of the timings they are using that they don't mention.
Crushgroove
Profile Joined July 2010
United States793 Posts
January 22 2011 17:30 GMT
#475
This is the first incredibly valuable community contribution since Retail. Good work, keep it up.
[In Korea on Vaca] "Why would I go to the park and climb a mountain? There are video games on f*cking TV!" - Kazuke
OpAndroid
Profile Joined July 2010
United States84 Posts
January 22 2011 18:26 GMT
#476
Hey MrBitter, just wanted to say thanks for everything you're doing, its a huge help to everyone that watches the stream and VODs, and you're doing an awesome job at helping out the community, so again, thanks.

Also, was wondering if you might be able to do, at some point during the 12 weeks, a session on reading a protoss, and how you can try and figure out what they're doing from only seeing a Gateway, Core and Zealot blocking the ramp, and possibly not being in position to sac an ovi.
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
January 22 2011 18:55 GMT
#477
On January 23 2011 03:26 Crosshairs38 wrote:
Also, was wondering if you might be able to do, at some point during the 12 weeks, a session on reading a protoss, and how you can try and figure out what they're doing from only seeing a Gateway, Core and Zealot blocking the ramp, and possibly not being in position to sac an ovi.


Yeah doing something on what goes through Incontrol's / Machine's / Catz's head when they see whatever up a ramp and what are the triggers to know what's coming would be cool.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Mettyman
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark132 Posts
January 22 2011 19:00 GMT
#478
this is AWESOME il definitely be there .dDd.dD:D:D:DDDd
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
January 22 2011 19:01 GMT
#479
On January 23 2011 03:26 Crosshairs38 wrote:
Hey MrBitter, just wanted to say thanks for everything you're doing, its a huge help to everyone that watches the stream and VODs, and you're doing an awesome job at helping out the community, so again, thanks.

Also, was wondering if you might be able to do, at some point during the 12 weeks, a session on reading a protoss, and how you can try and figure out what they're doing from only seeing a Gateway, Core and Zealot blocking the ramp, and possibly not being in position to sac an ovi.


This is something we already discuss quite often...

What we're looking for are little indicators that might give us tips... While we'll never be 100% certain, there are tons of clues we can look for.

Constantly chronoboosted cybercore and gateways? Might be a 4 gate.

More than 1 zealot? No sentries? Lots of stalkers? Might be a 4 gate.

Lots of zealots? Nothing indicating that Toss is spending his gas? Might be a stargate play.

Lots of sentries? Toss is probably wanting to expand...

None of these clues tell us with certainty what's happening, but they do serve as indicators, and they SHOULD prompt you to sac an ovie if you're not sure. Remember, we expect to lose that overlord. It's part of our gameplan.

Regardless, I'll make sure this question is asked again when we talk about 4 gate.
EliteAzn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States661 Posts
January 22 2011 20:38 GMT
#480
I would like to say...Thanks a lot for for vids! It's helping me develop as Zerg player, and helping me get better.

Keep up the GREAT WORK!
(╯`Д´)╯︵ ┻━┻ High Five! _o /\ o_
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