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1-LeeteR
Profile Joined August 2010
United States78 Posts
October 17 2010 08:26 GMT
#301
first time ive ever seen a company care about their game from hackers. gg wp blizzard! +1 support by me :D
"i hate people who quote themselves" - me
Ashur
Profile Joined January 2004
Czech Republic646 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 10:17:04
October 17 2010 10:04 GMT
#302
On October 17 2010 08:42 iopq wrote:
OK, guys, I could write some code on a webpage in plain text and then some months later blizzard will sue me. How far can you go with this? Sue people who discuss HOW to make hacks, even if they don't post a single line of code?


Do you know what the Peruan guy actually did? He wrote this on his source hub:

...
for (; {
pointer = OFFSET_MAPHACK_TABLE_BASE + sizeof(unit_t) * pointer_short;
...
json_uint(fp, "player", unit.player_owner);
json_string(fp, "type", units_table[unit_model]);
...
}

He didn't sell anything, he didn't draw minimap anywhere, he didnt release the .exe file The program reads parts of "SC2.exe" RAM, writes them to his program RAM and save it to a file on hard drive. Even your antivirus does that, so if we take it to extreme, the antivirus compaines can be sued for reading of copyrighted content, and you for using such a tools.

Complaint:
(1) COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT
(2) INDUCEMENT TO INFRINGE COPYRIGHTS
(3) CONTRIBUTORY COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT
(4) VICARIOUS COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT
(5) BREACH OF CONTRACT
(6) INTENTIONAL INTERFERENCE WITH CONTRACTUAL RELATIONS

And most of you here wants for those 100 lines of code his miserable life! If you think this is fair, you must be really ouf of mind. However the other two guys, that is different story.

Sue me for the 4 lines above. Oh my America!
mafia shit bullshit
MayorITC
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Korea (South)798 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 10:28:20
October 17 2010 10:26 GMT
#303
On October 17 2010 19:04 Ashur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 08:42 iopq wrote:
OK, guys, I could write some code on a webpage in plain text and then some months later blizzard will sue me. How far can you go with this? Sue people who discuss HOW to make hacks, even if they don't post a single line of code?


Do you know what the Peruan guy actually did? He wrote this on his source hub:
Show nested quote +

...
for (; {
pointer = OFFSET_MAPHACK_TABLE_BASE + sizeof(unit_t) * pointer_short;
...
json_uint(fp, "player", unit.player_owner);
json_string(fp, "type", units_table[unit_model]);
...
}

He didn't sell anything, he didn't draw minimap anywhere, he didnt release the .exe file The program reads parts of "SC2.exe" RAM, writes them to his program RAM and save it to a file on hard drive. Even your antivirus does that, so if we take it to extreme, the antivirus compaines can be sued for reading of copyrighted content, and you for using such a tools.

Complaint:
(1) COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT
(2) INDUCEMENT TO INFRINGE COPYRIGHTS
(3) CONTRIBUTORY COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT
(4) VICARIOUS COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT
(5) BREACH OF CONTRACT
(6) INTENTIONAL INTERFERENCE WITH CONTRACTUAL RELATIONS

And most of you here wants for those 100 lines of code his miserable life! If you think this is fair, you must be really ouf of mind. However the other two guys, that is different story.

Sue me for the 4 lines above. Oh my America!


Why are you referring to yourself in third person?

According to http://www.wcreplays.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2584382 you ARE linuxawesome.

And according to http://www.gamethreat.net/forums/archives/44007-valiantchaos-maphack-1-0-3-1-07-posts-22.html you did CREATE and DISTRIBUTE hacks. I wouldn't be surprised if you charged money for it as well. Sorry, but I'm taking Blizzard's word on this one. Maybe when you lie less, you'll be more credible!
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
October 17 2010 10:39 GMT
#304
Zynastor deserves this so much.

Maybe he'll finally get what he deserves for having such a bitch attitude in BW.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
leveller
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1840 Posts
October 17 2010 10:42 GMT
#305
On October 17 2010 19:26 MayorITC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 19:04 Ashur wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:42 iopq wrote:
OK, guys, I could write some code on a webpage in plain text and then some months later blizzard will sue me. How far can you go with this? Sue people who discuss HOW to make hacks, even if they don't post a single line of code?


Do you know what the Peruan guy actually did? He wrote this on his source hub:

...
for (; {
pointer = OFFSET_MAPHACK_TABLE_BASE + sizeof(unit_t) * pointer_short;
...
json_uint(fp, "player", unit.player_owner);
json_string(fp, "type", units_table[unit_model]);
...
}

He didn't sell anything, he didn't draw minimap anywhere, he didnt release the .exe file The program reads parts of "SC2.exe" RAM, writes them to his program RAM and save it to a file on hard drive. Even your antivirus does that, so if we take it to extreme, the antivirus compaines can be sued for reading of copyrighted content, and you for using such a tools.

Complaint:
(1) COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT
(2) INDUCEMENT TO INFRINGE COPYRIGHTS
(3) CONTRIBUTORY COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT
(4) VICARIOUS COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT
(5) BREACH OF CONTRACT
(6) INTENTIONAL INTERFERENCE WITH CONTRACTUAL RELATIONS

And most of you here wants for those 100 lines of code his miserable life! If you think this is fair, you must be really ouf of mind. However the other two guys, that is different story.

Sue me for the 4 lines above. Oh my America!


Why are you referring to yourself in third person?

According to http://www.wcreplays.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2584382 you ARE linuxawesome.

And according to http://www.gamethreat.net/forums/archives/44007-valiantchaos-maphack-1-0-3-1-07-posts-22.html you did CREATE and DISTRIBUTE hacks. I wouldn't be surprised if you charged money for it as well. Sorry, but I'm taking Blizzard's word on this one. Maybe when you lie less, you'll be more credible!



OUCH! :D

Its hacker raping week :D
Ashur
Profile Joined January 2004
Czech Republic646 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 10:46:30
October 17 2010 10:45 GMT
#306
On October 17 2010 19:26 MayorITC wrote:
According to http://www.wcreplays.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2584382 you ARE linuxawesome.


Accoding to my flatmate you ARE Zynastor. Oh wait...
Please stop trolling, talk about the case, not about what you thing or what do others think of someones alter ego..
mafia shit bullshit
404.Delirium
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1190 Posts
October 17 2010 10:46 GMT
#307
Holy smokes. Nice work, Blizzard! Only time will tell how this will effect the cheating in the long-run but I'm glad they're playing cards hard and fast.
seriously next disrespectful comment in this blog is ip ban. Be happy or get the hell out. // SC2 is like playing with neutral-colored Play-Doh while BW is like colorful Legos.
Squirrel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1102 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 10:55:55
October 17 2010 10:54 GMT
#308
On October 17 2010 19:45 Ashur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 19:26 MayorITC wrote:
According to http://www.wcreplays.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2584382 you ARE linuxawesome.


Accoding to my flatmate you ARE Zynastor. Oh wait...
Please stop trolling, talk about the case, not about what you thing or what do others think of someones alter ego..


Regardless of if you are him or not, you were the one who brought up talking about what we think about him. =s

Now, should you/he be sued if he didn't distribute or sell said hack? No. But if there is evidence he/you did...
Ashur
Profile Joined January 2004
Czech Republic646 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 10:58:59
October 17 2010 10:58 GMT
#309
On October 17 2010 19:54 Seam wrote:
Regardless of if you are him or not, you were the one who brought up talking about what we think about him. =s


Okay. I thought you might see things from other, not so straight perspective, but it seems I was wrong.

Now, should you/he be sued if he didn't distribute or sell said hack? No. But if there is evidence he/you did...

Facepalm, really.
mafia shit bullshit
Squirrel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1102 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 11:02:26
October 17 2010 11:01 GMT
#310
On October 17 2010 19:58 Ashur wrote:


Okay. I thought you might see things from other, not so straight perspective, but it seems I was wrong.


Hmm?


Facepalm, really.


Why would that be?

If said person kept it to himself and used it, they should simply be banned. No more harm done.

If said person distributed it, they should get the same punishment others are getting for doing the same, that being getting sued.
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
October 17 2010 11:54 GMT
#311
Funny. I bet the hackers never saw this one coming.
This is well deserved considering hacking has been a problem for Blizzard games since the beginning.
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 12:07:54
October 17 2010 12:06 GMT
#312
On October 17 2010 19:26 MayorITC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 19:04 Ashur wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:42 iopq wrote:
OK, guys, I could write some code on a webpage in plain text and then some months later blizzard will sue me. How far can you go with this? Sue people who discuss HOW to make hacks, even if they don't post a single line of code?


Do you know what the Peruan guy actually did? He wrote this on his source hub:

...
for (; {
pointer = OFFSET_MAPHACK_TABLE_BASE + sizeof(unit_t) * pointer_short;
...
json_uint(fp, "player", unit.player_owner);
json_string(fp, "type", units_table[unit_model]);
...
}

He didn't sell anything, he didn't draw minimap anywhere, he didnt release the .exe file The program reads parts of "SC2.exe" RAM, writes them to his program RAM and save it to a file on hard drive. Even your antivirus does that, so if we take it to extreme, the antivirus compaines can be sued for reading of copyrighted content, and you for using such a tools.

Complaint:
(1) COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT
(2) INDUCEMENT TO INFRINGE COPYRIGHTS
(3) CONTRIBUTORY COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT
(4) VICARIOUS COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT
(5) BREACH OF CONTRACT
(6) INTENTIONAL INTERFERENCE WITH CONTRACTUAL RELATIONS

And most of you here wants for those 100 lines of code his miserable life! If you think this is fair, you must be really ouf of mind. However the other two guys, that is different story.

Sue me for the 4 lines above. Oh my America!


Why are you referring to yourself in third person?

According to http://www.wcreplays.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2584382 you ARE linuxawesome.

And according to http://www.gamethreat.net/forums/archives/44007-valiantchaos-maphack-1-0-3-1-07-posts-22.html you did CREATE and DISTRIBUTE hacks. I wouldn't be surprised if you charged money for it as well. Sorry, but I'm taking Blizzard's word on this one. Maybe when you lie less, you'll be more credible!


So wait, your only proof that he is linuxawesome is something somebody wrote on some forum ? And you question his credibility, and call him a liar over that ?
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
Bosko
Profile Joined February 2010
United States155 Posts
October 17 2010 12:17 GMT
#313
I'm thinking of this as drugs instead of video games. Intent to distribute rightly deserves a higher penalty than recreational use, even if you're not profiting from it.

Now only if Blizzard could police all Activision games...I would be in heaven.

Zrah
Profile Joined July 2010
Lithuania55 Posts
October 17 2010 12:29 GMT
#314
Ruining those people lifes is fair because they ruined countless lifes of other people.

It's same as drugs i don't see drug bosses when caught get slap on the wrist cos they only sold it never made it, they get life and so we should aim for capital punishment for these hackers aswell.

Getting to meet cheaters online is like getting mugged irl just that you can't do anything to protect yourself.
quasit
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden49 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 12:43:58
October 17 2010 12:33 GMT
#315
On October 17 2010 09:03 Rotodyne wrote:
Does HoN have hacks? (actual question, not part of the argument)


No, not maphacks at least. HoN map is serversided while the SC2 map is always known by the client, it's "just" hidden by the fog of war. It would be nice if SC2 maps were serversided instead, though it might cause too much lag when the armies become bigger.
Wolfpox
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada164 Posts
October 17 2010 13:03 GMT
#316
Knowing how ridiculously ignorant American courts usually are when it comes to videogames, this could go either way
[B] Butigroove wrote:[/B] Blizzard is double expanding to the natural gold base of our poor little nerd hearts.
Ballistixz
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1269 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 14:26:16
October 17 2010 14:20 GMT
#317
On October 17 2010 09:45 vica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 09:37 leveller wrote:
On October 17 2010 09:31 vica wrote:
They are sued not for making hacks, but for selling hacks

"Developer accuses Canadian, Peruvian users of creating, selling maphacks and cheats for multiplayer real-time strategy game."

Blizzard couldn't care less if you hack their game just for fun, to learn how to hack and etc. But if you try to profit off their game, they will take legal action.

Another point, cheaters are people who use hacks, which hackers develop. Except most cheaters do not have the intelligence to actually use the hack, so hackers develop an interface that activates the hacks. Cheaters are to blame for any disturbances in a game community. Hackers usually hack for fun, like cracking Ubisoft's "uncrackable" solution. Other hackers do it just to distribute their software, or "for the community." Others, like these guys, hack to make a profit.


Who cares why they hack. They are just curious little curtises? Go read a book instead of ruining my game.


Because those hackers have nothing to do with ruining your game? They make hacks for their own enjoyment. They do not distribute them to the community. They make them for experience and to learn. You're talking about completely different groups. Do not pretend their the same due to ignorance.


Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 09:37 TheRabidDeer wrote:
I am not positive, but I dont think ALL of the people accused had sold, some just created and distributed which is just as big of an offense for the charges that blizzard has against them.


That's probably true, but there are only 3 people accused. I think Blizzard would have targeted more if it were against all hackers. Or maybe there were all in operation together. No one can be sure.


zyn is on that list and he doesnt sell hacks, he makes them for "fun". he has been doing so since BW. so right there your logic is already screwed.

a hack is a hack regardless if u sell it or distribute it for free it still ruins the game. infact distributing it for free is somewhat worst seeing as more of the public will have access to those hack and fuck up ladder even more.

dont know what zyns role is yet? google oblivion. or go to gamethreat website. if blizz wants to they can also sue them for the BW hacks they have made as well as the SC2 hacks.

but all that said, i wouldnt be surprised if blizz went around and said "we will drop the charges if u work for us for free"

watch what happens.
Littlebootz
Profile Joined March 2010
United States108 Posts
October 17 2010 14:58 GMT
#318
yay can't wait to see how this goes.
What if a pro..owns a noob..but there's no ladder?
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
October 17 2010 15:12 GMT
#319
On October 17 2010 19:26 MayorITC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 19:04 Ashur wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:42 iopq wrote:
OK, guys, I could write some code on a webpage in plain text and then some months later blizzard will sue me. How far can you go with this? Sue people who discuss HOW to make hacks, even if they don't post a single line of code?


Do you know what the Peruan guy actually did? He wrote this on his source hub:

...
for (; {
pointer = OFFSET_MAPHACK_TABLE_BASE + sizeof(unit_t) * pointer_short;
...
json_uint(fp, "player", unit.player_owner);
json_string(fp, "type", units_table[unit_model]);
...
}

He didn't sell anything, he didn't draw minimap anywhere, he didnt release the .exe file The program reads parts of "SC2.exe" RAM, writes them to his program RAM and save it to a file on hard drive. Even your antivirus does that, so if we take it to extreme, the antivirus compaines can be sued for reading of copyrighted content, and you for using such a tools.

Complaint:
(1) COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT
(2) INDUCEMENT TO INFRINGE COPYRIGHTS
(3) CONTRIBUTORY COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT
(4) VICARIOUS COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT
(5) BREACH OF CONTRACT
(6) INTENTIONAL INTERFERENCE WITH CONTRACTUAL RELATIONS

And most of you here wants for those 100 lines of code his miserable life! If you think this is fair, you must be really ouf of mind. However the other two guys, that is different story.

Sue me for the 4 lines above. Oh my America!


Why are you referring to yourself in third person?

According to http://www.wcreplays.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2584382 you ARE linuxawesome.

And according to http://www.gamethreat.net/forums/archives/44007-valiantchaos-maphack-1-0-3-1-07-posts-22.html you did CREATE and DISTRIBUTE hacks. I wouldn't be surprised if you charged money for it as well. Sorry, but I'm taking Blizzard's word on this one. Maybe when you lie less, you'll be more credible!


I just checked this forum and the threads, and ppl there disgust me.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
DarthLeader
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada123 Posts
October 17 2010 15:14 GMT
#320
I am SO happy to hear this ! Blizzard, I love you.
You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.
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