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GrazerRinge
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
999 Posts
September 28 2010 22:07 GMT
#81
On September 29 2010 06:35 motbob wrote:
[image loading]

O.O

i dont know what morrow has in his mind, but it doesn't look good...seriously, he just could practise custom instead of laddering -.-;
"Successful people don't talk much. They listen and take action."
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
September 28 2010 22:08 GMT
#82
Learning the ins and outs of other races will probably help improve your terran as well. GL
ApBuLLet
Profile Joined September 2010
United States604 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 22:12:09
September 28 2010 22:08 GMT
#83
Stop bashing the guy for trying out a race :p I mean everybody tries other races every once in a while right? Why should pros be any different?

im not playing zerg to back up my words, im playing zerg to find out if its any more fun than terran is, or any harder whatever. its starting to get boring in the long run to play sc2 terarn because its 10 times easier than sc1. i want challange and esport but sc2 is not hard at all. i play toss some games and won vs top level terrans and not even knowing hotkeys ...
i just wish they made terran and protoss harder to play

zerg was so difficult to play on mechanics than terran was, which makes me really tempted to switch


As for what he said there, he's probably right. The mechanics of the game are much easier then they were in BW. In a way I suppose that is good though because it leaves more room to reward strategy rather than mechanics, which personally I find to make games much more fun and entertaining.

Just because the mechanics are easier doesn't make it easier to win, it just takes away a little bit of the emphasis on crazy apm and constant practice, but emphasizes the thinking part of the game. For those of you who think this is a bad thing, look at TLO. I think he is the perfect example of a player who takes advantage of this. His mechanics are not bad by any means, but he doesn't win games relying solely on good mechanics. He wins games by out thinking his opponents.
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
September 28 2010 22:08 GMT
#84
On September 29 2010 06:36 FabledIntegral wrote:
Well the reason for all his losses would be attributed to him playing people on the VERY top of the ladder, correct? So he needs at least get used to Zerg, you wouldn't expect him to be at the top ASAP. So it's going to lower him down a bit, eventually he'll rise back up if he's good enough. He could always be losing from little things that he simply doesn't have experience doing.

For example, I played vs Strelok recently in a ZvZ. He outmicroed me with Zerglings despite me having great numbers, and I only won because he left like 15-20 Zerglings at hte bottom of my ramp which 3 banelings annihilated. It was all downhill from there. As Strelok learns shit like that, he'll quickly surpass me, if he hasn't already, and I'm sure the same is for Morrow. Although I'm not saying they'll be able to win tournies with Zerg... they just won't have THAT match history for long.



Why can't there be more posters on TL like you.

Balance/Imbalance discussion is becoming boring and not adding anything new. We all have a subjective view and try to push it onto to others in an objective way, but this is impossible.

Morrow is a top tier player and always will be, because he puts the time and effort into the game to do so. He is experimenting with other races and not starting new threads every five seconds spouting imbalance.

Imagine playing a game to have fun, be challenged mentally, and sharpen yourself as a person. Weird concept, am I right?
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Elegy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1629 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 22:11:29
September 28 2010 22:10 GMT
#85
On September 29 2010 07:07 GrazerRinge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 06:35 motbob wrote:
[image loading]

O.O

i dont know what morrow has in his mind, but it doesn't look good...seriously, he just could practise custom instead of laddering -.-;


Why? Ladder rank means nothing unless there was a very particular reason to maintain a high ladder ranking to qualify for a specific tournament or something along those lines.

Laddering is great in this case as the ladder is pretty damn good at matching you vs opponents of equal skill after enough time. Once Morrow's Z gets better and his "new" skill stabilizes he'll be getting equal games as he climbs back up

or he could go back to his main and recoup those losses without a terrible amount of effort, especially as his rating will have fallen so far in comparison to what his Terran was

And obviously he's losing most of his Zerg games what would anyone expect lol? He picks up Z and beats people who have been on 1 race as their main for however many months?
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
September 28 2010 22:10 GMT
#86
wooo, way to go, Morrow.

I really think he can do well if he sticks with Zerg. I do believe zerg is underpowered, but I think he has the talent to get quite far, even with it. It'll also be interesting to see the perspective of a high level player who makes this transition. Good luck Morrow, and I hope you stick with z for awhile.
MassAirUnits
Profile Joined April 2010
United States66 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 22:11:40
September 28 2010 22:10 GMT
#87
On September 29 2010 07:07 GrazerRinge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 06:35 motbob wrote:
[image loading]

O.O

i dont know what morrow has in his mind, but it doesn't look good...seriously, he just could practise custom instead of laddering -.-;

What's wrong with playing on the ladder? I think it'll be a more honest evaluation of his Z basics. When his Z starts bringing him back up, then playing customs to test stranger strategies would make sense.
Fortune favors the bold!
Hunch
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada336 Posts
September 28 2010 22:11 GMT
#88
i offrace all the time for fun but i dont know why he would do it in ladder, i guess for the challenge.
I have a Hunch.770
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
September 28 2010 22:11 GMT
#89
On September 29 2010 07:07 GrazerRinge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 06:35 motbob wrote:
[image loading]

O.O

i dont know what morrow has in his mind, but it doesn't look good...seriously, he just could practise custom instead of laddering -.-;



Ack you are right, His ladder score is bad now, I guess that means he won't have a chance in any of the upcoming tourneys with a score like that
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
atenthirtyone
Profile Joined May 2010
United States88 Posts
September 28 2010 22:12 GMT
#90
Did he lose a bet to Dimaga or something? "Hey man, Bo5 for practice. Let's make it interesting If you win, I (insert something really tempting). If you lose, you ladder 50 Zerg games." o.O
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
September 28 2010 22:14 GMT
#91
On September 29 2010 07:12 atenthirtyone wrote:
Did he lose a bet to Dimaga or something? "Hey man, Bo5 for practice. Let's make it interesting If you win, I (insert something really tempting). If you lose, you ladder 50 Zerg games." o.O

I wonder if it has to do with the claim IdrA made about MorroW never winning a tourney as a Zerg o-0
Lomak
Profile Joined June 2010
United States311 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 22:16:18
September 28 2010 22:15 GMT
#92
Not trying to prove a point, but lets ponder on what this thread would be about if Morrow went on a winning streak once switching to zerg instead of a losing streak.

Some see the glass half full, others half empty. I think the glass is just too big.
graphene
Profile Joined May 2010
Finland211 Posts
September 28 2010 22:17 GMT
#93
why wouldnt pro macro terrans be good Zs i dont understand???
cloud computing is the future
Seam
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
September 28 2010 22:18 GMT
#94
On September 29 2010 06:19 darmousseh wrote:
lol

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I'm not sure how good he is at zerg yet.


I started cracking up when I saw that XD
I only needed one probe to take down idra. I had to upgrade to a zealot for strelok. - Liquid`Tyler
fevax
Profile Joined February 2010
Turkey143 Posts
September 28 2010 22:19 GMT
#95
this thread made my day
jdr_
Profile Joined October 2009
United States78 Posts
September 28 2010 22:19 GMT
#96
On September 29 2010 06:50 JQL wrote:
I think top players will be top players, race dont matter. In fact, even the game they play dont matter because 99% of the top sc2 players were once great WC3 or SCBW players.


This is so horribly, horribly wrong.

Morrow could play BW 12 hours a day and he wouldn't even be good enough to take games off a pro b-team. IdrA couldn't even get close to qualifying for an OSL or MSL despite living in a korean progaming house and playing all those hours. Being a pro BW player is A LOT more difficult than being a pro SC2 player.

And warcraft 3 is just a completely different skillset, I played W3 competitively for a couple of years, but when i made the switch to BW I was awful just like everyone else. Took me 2k games to get to C on iccup.
"The left hand side is really going to be a bit of a nervewracking occassion" -Artosis
Gak2
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada418 Posts
September 28 2010 22:19 GMT
#97
On September 29 2010 07:15 Lomak wrote:
Not trying to prove a point, but lets ponder on what this thread would be about if Morrow went on a winning streak once switching to zerg instead of a losing streak.


probably about pigs flying because that would have to happen first
Escape
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada306 Posts
September 28 2010 22:20 GMT
#98
awesome.. we need more good zerg and less abusive terran
Kang19
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada102 Posts
September 28 2010 22:22 GMT
#99
On September 29 2010 07:19 Furios wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 07:15 Lomak wrote:
Not trying to prove a point, but lets ponder on what this thread would be about if Morrow went on a winning streak once switching to zerg instead of a losing streak.


probably about pigs flying because that would have to happen first


+1

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Raevin
Profile Joined July 2010
246 Posts
September 28 2010 22:22 GMT
#100
MorroW stayed out partying with the 2 IEM chicks from Zermany, so his parents grounded him and punished him, 6 days in his room, forced to play Zerg on ladder.

Bet he wishes he got a good beating with the belt instead
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