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nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
September 13 2010 12:17 GMT
#41
On September 13 2010 21:09 Flicky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2010 20:52 GenoZStriker wrote:
- Fixed Ourk's race from Zerg to Terran.

SaJer is not LucifroN. He is a totally different person. Plays for team Wizard.

NightEnd lost in the first round of the qualifiers.


Well who the hell are these guys and how did they get straight seeded into the finals. I've never heard of either of them and my forte on Liquipedia is knowing who players are.

If they just waddled through their country's qualification and got seeded on the Back of one successful player from their country... I dunno, that doesn't sound right.


What do you mean by straight seeded into the finals?
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2674 Posts
September 13 2010 12:19 GMT
#42
On September 13 2010 21:17 nam nam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2010 21:09 Flicky wrote:
On September 13 2010 20:52 GenoZStriker wrote:
- Fixed Ourk's race from Zerg to Terran.

SaJer is not LucifroN. He is a totally different person. Plays for team Wizard.

NightEnd lost in the first round of the qualifiers.


Well who the hell are these guys and how did they get straight seeded into the finals. I've never heard of either of them and my forte on Liquipedia is knowing who players are.

If they just waddled through their country's qualification and got seeded on the Back of one successful player from their country... I dunno, that doesn't sound right.


What do you mean by straight seeded into the finals?


They're seeded straight into the European Championships.


On September 13 2010 21:16 GenoZStriker wrote:
ESL seeds by country and not player. The countries have a rank based on their achievements at ESL.


Right, and Spain and Romania's ranks are basically entirely held up by Lucifron and NightEnd.
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nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-13 12:30:51
September 13 2010 12:30 GMT
#43
On September 13 2010 21:19 Flicky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2010 21:17 nam nam wrote:
On September 13 2010 21:09 Flicky wrote:
On September 13 2010 20:52 GenoZStriker wrote:
- Fixed Ourk's race from Zerg to Terran.

SaJer is not LucifroN. He is a totally different person. Plays for team Wizard.

NightEnd lost in the first round of the qualifiers.


Well who the hell are these guys and how did they get straight seeded into the finals. I've never heard of either of them and my forte on Liquipedia is knowing who players are.

If they just waddled through their country's qualification and got seeded on the Back of one successful player from their country... I dunno, that doesn't sound right.


What do you mean by straight seeded into the finals?


They're seeded straight into the European Championships.


Show nested quote +
On September 13 2010 21:16 GenoZStriker wrote:
ESL seeds by country and not player. The countries have a rank based on their achievements at ESL.


Right, and Spain and Romania's ranks are basically entirely held up by Lucifron and NightEnd.


Maybe it's my inability to comprehend English, but didn't they qualify for it? I'm not really following what you are wanting say with it.
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
September 13 2010 12:35 GMT
#44
He's asking why they were given direct seed in the championship and not the qualification rounds. Unfortunately I don't exactly know how ESL does their seeding for SC2 but they have a ranking to decide that.

http://www.esl-world.net/masters/country_ranking_season_5/
eSports Prodigy & Illuminati member.
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
September 13 2010 12:37 GMT
#45
How \ where \ when \ what the norwegian qualifier ?
Dead girls don't say no.
LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-13 12:40:46
September 13 2010 12:39 GMT
#46
On September 13 2010 21:09 Flicky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2010 20:52 GenoZStriker wrote:
- Fixed Ourk's race from Zerg to Terran.

SaJer is not LucifroN. He is a totally different person. Plays for team Wizard.

NightEnd lost in the first round of the qualifiers.


Well who the hell are these guys and how did they get straight seeded into the finals. I've never heard of either of them and my forte on Liquipedia is knowing who players are.

If they just waddled through their country's qualification and got seeded on the Back of one successful player from their country... I dunno, that doesn't sound right.


Who are they? Random terran scrubs with 60apm and no multitasking coming out of nowhere.

+ Show Spoiler +
Let's keep telling ourselves there's nothing wrong with the game. There will surely be new tricks and strategies in the future to differentiate good players from bad.

+ Show Spoiler +
And they will magically appear out of nowhere
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
September 13 2010 12:42 GMT
#47
On September 13 2010 21:39 LaLuSh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2010 21:09 Flicky wrote:
On September 13 2010 20:52 GenoZStriker wrote:
- Fixed Ourk's race from Zerg to Terran.

SaJer is not LucifroN. He is a totally different person. Plays for team Wizard.

NightEnd lost in the first round of the qualifiers.


Well who the hell are these guys and how did they get straight seeded into the finals. I've never heard of either of them and my forte on Liquipedia is knowing who players are.

If they just waddled through their country's qualification and got seeded on the Back of one successful player from their country... I dunno, that doesn't sound right.


Who are they? Random terran scrubs with 60apm and no multitasking coming out of nowhere.

+ Show Spoiler +
Let's keep telling ourselves there's nothing wrong with the game. There will surely be new tricks and strategies in the future to differentiate good players from bad.

+ Show Spoiler +
And they will magically appear out of nowhere


The romanian guy is playing Zerg, what now?
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
September 13 2010 12:44 GMT
#48
This is gonna be fucking boring shit. 9/12 terrans, this is getting stupid.
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
September 13 2010 12:46 GMT
#49
On September 13 2010 21:44 Pekkz wrote:
This is gonna be fucking boring shit. 9/12 terrans, this is getting stupid.


Yepp. I'm actually looking forward to seing a cup where there is room for say 5 of each race + 1 to make it possible.
Dead girls don't say no.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
September 13 2010 12:55 GMT
#50
At this point I am for strongly nerfing Terrans just so players switch back to other races and we can watch some more interesting tournaments. Do not even care about balance, just give us back all kind of MU during tournaments, not mostly TvT or TvP or TvZ in all games.
Nihilnovi
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden696 Posts
September 13 2010 13:01 GMT
#51
Watching only TvX over and over in every tournament is getting really boring, really fast.
Merikh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States918 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-13 13:13:16
September 13 2010 13:11 GMT
#52
The influx of terran is so unattractive XD

Good luck to all the players, I'm rooting for dimaga let's go zerg!.

Edit: hope lalush doesn't get banned for his post
G4MR | I mod day9, djwheat and GLHF's stream
Gingerninja
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1339 Posts
September 13 2010 13:17 GMT
#53
On September 13 2010 21:35 GenoZStriker wrote:
He's asking why they were given direct seed in the championship and not the qualification rounds. Unfortunately I don't exactly know how ESL does their seeding for SC2 but they have a ranking to decide that.

http://www.esl-world.net/masters/country_ranking_season_5/


Seems a pretty random way of allocating player spots considering its a 1v1 game.. maybe if it was an international team pro-league or something that would work out ok, but as everyone is playing for themselves and country makes no difference in this I can't figure at all why that's the way they do it.
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Tamotab
Profile Joined September 2010
France38 Posts
September 13 2010 13:40 GMT
#54
Nice post !

Seems like you have forgotten iD.TuZeR (french terran) in QR1 though.
Aborash
Profile Joined June 2009
65 Posts
September 13 2010 13:51 GMT
#55
The worst part is that the 1.1 wont address any heavy improvement in TvsXXX matches, so we are gonna be stuck for at least another month suffering borings TvsX tournaments.

And I really dislike the idea of heavy nerf terran and remove valid strategies, cause then terran will be bored to play aswell.

For example, most of the games you see Bioball whole time, if they nerf tanks, then it will be more strange to see mech games.
rextyrann
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany41 Posts
September 13 2010 13:58 GMT
#56
gonna watch all the games where a Z or a P is still in the tourney and playing matches...

after that there is nothing more to see. esl / blizzard can go figure what went wrong


thats so sad actually...

PS: congratz Ts now you all can have your most hated matchup TvTs all the way lol. everyone hates to play vs T even Ts themselves lmao.
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-13 14:06:34
September 13 2010 14:04 GMT
#57
It kinda feels to me when I'm playing that ZvT is balanced... except that what I'm doing is 10x harder and that I'll never be able to beat a terran of equal skill.

I think this is the problem.

edit: Oh ya, GOGO DIMAGA!
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
Doko
Profile Joined May 2010
Argentina1737 Posts
September 13 2010 14:08 GMT
#58
Go socke !
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
September 13 2010 14:09 GMT
#59
On September 13 2010 22:40 Tamotab wrote:
Nice post !

Seems like you have forgotten iD.TuZeR (french terran) in QR1 though.

Thank you. Yes I did indeed forgot him and have added him to the list.

- Added TuZeR (French Terran) to the list of players in QR1
eSports Prodigy & Illuminati member.
Apolo
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal1259 Posts
September 13 2010 14:10 GMT
#60
The race distribution is funny and sad at the same time. As I've said before, blizzard would hit with their heads on the walls until they fixed imbalances, mainly to do with terran. Let's see how much head beating they will do until they decide to fix them.
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