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mikyaJ
1834 Posts
On May 04 2011 13:36 dcemuser wrote: That's almost a bigger logical fallacy than the arguments IdrA is trying to make. lol if you would actually listen to what IdrA says. I'm a Terran user and I agree with IdrA. The way IdrA is saying, is that Zerg will only win if the opponent is making mistakes/not playing well enough. | ||
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Oreo7
United States1647 Posts
Basically the problem I see with Idra's state of mind is that he thinks Zerg has lack of scouting, but then he views scouting only as use of ovies. I think zerg can scout just by picking up on reads that the terran drops. I do agree zerg needs something to scout, but their options besides overlords. He needs to widen his mindset. Scouting should mean saccing an ovie, it should also mean poking with lings and checking marine numbers, stealing gas and canceling it over and over again, using more than one ovie to scout etc. I'm a protoss so correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see these being used (often) ZvT. | ||
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Justanx
United States240 Posts
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On May 04 2011 13:37 Killerkrack wrote: Day9 got absolutely destroyed. He literally didn't bring up one counter point to what Idra was saying besides saying "well I just don't agree" in between random grunts. Please stop being ignorant. Idra spouts some stuff that we've head 100x that makes it sound like zerg never wins, ever. Day9 is asked to solve the zerg race in 10seconds, otherwise he loses. This is one big fail after another. | ||
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Engore
United States1916 Posts
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Brotatolol
United States1742 Posts
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Psyclon
Bulgaria2443 Posts
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Techno
1900 Posts
Uhhh eco bust, anyone? If zerg defends the first Terran attack with only losing his army, the zerg has won the game. If IdrA could do what he wants to do, he would be completely unbeatable, no matter how good the Terran the player is. | ||
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Xdivine
Canada13 Posts
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On May 04 2011 13:37 arb wrote: No, Day9 is talking about other options and cant give any. IdrA even asked for "what are some of these options" and Day9 couldnt give him any. No he isnt supposed to fix the race but he DOES NOT have an answer for the points IdrA's making imo atleast. Well, Day9 offered the Spanishiwa style, to which IdrA responded he felt it was too defensive. Isn't that exactly what IdrA desires? That or good scouting? | ||
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Goibon
New Zealand8185 Posts
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Zeri
United States773 Posts
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On May 04 2011 13:37 Killerkrack wrote: Day9 got absolutely destroyed. He literally didn't bring up one counter point to what Idra was saying besides saying "well I just don't agree" in between random grunts. Idra says we wants a build that's safe against everything. Day[9] says Spanishiwa. Idra says it doesn't beat super-greedy builds. Idra wants Zerg to be able to hard-counter EVERYTHING. | ||
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elmizzt
United States3309 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
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jere
United States121 Posts
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SiguR
Canada2039 Posts
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TripleCow
United States240 Posts
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Nik0
Uruguay460 Posts
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iyoume
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