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Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
May 04 2011 04:28 GMT
#17601
On May 04 2011 13:27 schmutttt wrote:
IdrA doesn't hate Day9 at all, they're just talking about balance.

Arguing about balance =/= hating someone.

Lies! They disagree about something, they hate each other and will take it outside in a fist fight next time they meet.
CosmicHippo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States547 Posts
May 04 2011 04:28 GMT
#17602
this is the greatest discussion ever
Yeah i've got your zerg riiiight here! *gulps beer*
Executor1
Profile Joined April 2011
1353 Posts
May 04 2011 04:28 GMT
#17603
On May 04 2011 13:27 iNcontroL wrote:
gwsc if you think idra is making valid points based on any kind of evidence or something you might be a redneck

LOL! yep i love the guy but he really just spouts nonesense when it comes to racial balance.

hes confusing himself while hes talking right now i can tell.
iyoume
Profile Joined May 2011
2501 Posts
May 04 2011 04:28 GMT
#17604
day9 bringing out that college education :D
BeSt <3 | HoeJJa | Leta :: team Polt
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
May 04 2011 04:28 GMT
#17605
Maybe if zergs literally lost 70%+ of their games I might agree there is a major imbalance.

Is it harder for zerg? Atm yes. Is the game broken? No. Every race can win any given game on a fair map.
SgtCoDFish
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1520 Posts
May 04 2011 04:28 GMT
#17606
I'm wondering how long it's going to take JP to crack open a bottle of champagne to celebrate the viewers IdrA vs. Day[9] will be pulling in
GwSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1997 Posts
May 04 2011 04:28 GMT
#17607
On May 04 2011 13:27 iNcontroL wrote:
gwsc if you think idra is making valid points based on any kind of evidence or something you might be a redneck


No sir, I wouldn't say I was
If the points are invalid, why resort to personal attacks? As a person supposedly learned in debate, I'd think you would know the best way to argue against a point is to actually make your own.
Skvid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Lithuania751 Posts
May 04 2011 04:28 GMT
#17608
this is what sc2 needs.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
May 04 2011 04:29 GMT
#17609
On May 04 2011 13:27 iNcontroL wrote:
gwsc if you think idra is making valid points based on any kind of evidence or something you might be a redneck

Good evening my sith lord, how are you doing while listening to this trifling?
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5225 Posts
May 04 2011 04:29 GMT
#17610
Day[9] isn't arguing straight up, he is dodging, and when he does argue, Idra crushes him with examples and facts.

Day[9] needs to argue with examples and facts.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
May 04 2011 04:29 GMT
#17611
On May 04 2011 13:27 whiterabbit wrote:
So this is why every LR thread is full of tears?

Even if IdrA shut up, others would replace him. Where there are people who cannot accept they lost solely because of their own mistakes, there will always be balance complaints.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Obaten
Profile Joined December 2010
United States730 Posts
May 04 2011 04:29 GMT
#17612
On May 04 2011 13:27 Vei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2011 13:24 On_Slaught wrote:
On May 04 2011 13:23 Vei wrote:
hey day9 howbout you don't talk about race/balance/etc because you don't even fucking play the game any more (:

fucking A that guy is annoying, respect for his BW accomplishments and bringing sc2 esports up but he doesn't know shit


A+ troll. Haven't seen this much ignorance in one post in a longgg time.

not trolling, anyone who trolls randoms on forums in the year 2011 is a fucking idiot and half a decade late to the "party."

i'm just expressing my absolutely rational loathing for day9 because of how confidently he believes in his "beliefs" regarding balance/etc. despite probably playing <20 1v1s in the last 6 months.

-_-

e- unless i'm mistaken and day9 released his ladder stats/rank.


So you know exactly how much he plays? Do you have his ladder account in your hands?
nekuodah
Profile Joined August 2010
England2409 Posts
May 04 2011 04:29 GMT
#17613
I cant help but think this is going on for the views haha, nothing will get more internet spam than a "day9 vs idra on balance arguement", either way this is brilliant. best episode ever.
MercuryViper
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada26 Posts
May 04 2011 04:29 GMT
#17614
Day 9 PLEASE invite Idra for a Day9 Daily week where you discuss Zerg vs T/P/Z where the two of you will work together towards addressing Idra's issues of balance and looking for solutions from the zerg point of view.
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
May 04 2011 04:29 GMT
#17615
Hahahah Geoff!
#TeamBuLba
Alphaes
Profile Joined April 2010
United States651 Posts
May 04 2011 04:29 GMT
#17616
On May 04 2011 13:29 BronzeKnee wrote:
Day[9] isn't arguing straight up, he is dodging, and when he does argue, Idra crushes him with examples and facts.

Day[9] needs to argue with examples and facts.


Yeah, it feels like a bunch of sophistry so far. And normally I am a Day9 fan :/.
What this
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-04 04:30:37
May 04 2011 04:30 GMT
#17617
On May 04 2011 13:29 BronzeKnee wrote:
Day[9] isn't arguing straight up, he is dodging, and when he does argue, Idra crushes him with examples and facts.

Day[9] needs to argue with examples and facts.


Day9 keep bring up statistics and results but it keeps getting ignored by IdrA by saying "oh that game does not count. Oh that's because i'm so much better. "

CharlesDickens
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1 Post
May 04 2011 04:30 GMT
#17618
The discussion IdrA and Day[9] are having about Zerg being underpowered is pretty good, I think. IdrA sounds so direct and rational and I feel like Day[9] is just sort of fillerbustering/talking in vague generalities/trollin
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times...
price
Profile Joined December 2010
United States297 Posts
May 04 2011 04:30 GMT
#17619
day9 and idra have very different approaches. i think day9 is mainly looking at it from a spectator's perspective (imbalance is a negative thing that would detract potential viewers or new players) whereas idra is looking at it from a pro's perspective (getting rid of imbalance is his livelihood).

maybe i'm wrong, but that's the way i see it right now. both views have merits
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
May 04 2011 04:30 GMT
#17620
why won't day9 accept the fact that zerg plays blind? idra is pointing out SPECIFICALLY (marine perimeters etc.) and day9 is just saying "EH EVERYONE SAYS THAT BUT I CANT GIVE SPECIFICS"
www.justin.tv/veisc2 ~ 720p + commentary
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