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Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
February 16 2011 06:20 GMT
#9901
In response to Idra, about being able to be a high level player outside of Korea right now which you couldn't do in BW, all the best players in the world are still viewed as being there in the GSL. Nestea Zerg, MVP Terran, MC Protoss, that's not a coincidence is it? Maybe you don't have to be in Korea anymore to win money, but all the prestige is still there.
I guess the question that it comes to is, is the prestige of playing in Korea worth it?
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Phenny
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1435 Posts
February 16 2011 06:21 GMT
#9902
On February 16 2011 15:18 MESeidel wrote:
Has yet one mentioned a dislike about the "only one caster and all foreigners re-stream him" thing?

First off that means all foreigners get the English talk in background or no game sound at all.
Even worse, every recaster can only translate or repeat what the main caster tells.
Because telling anything else goes out of what is shown.
That's pure stupid.
And if the main caster is missing some important aspect, the others can only talk about the minimap.
How great: " oh there is a drop at the but we will never know how many workers died because the English main caster rather likes to show the main base".

If a caster Lags he should have the respect to leave.
But saying more casters automatically means more risk is not helping.
(btw if a lonly main caster lags out -> no more covering -> oh thx)


Um, I believe they were talking about one observer, not a caster, a good observer (no speaky) so that everyone can restream that observer and cast off them.
Jacuzzi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States528 Posts
February 16 2011 06:22 GMT
#9903
On February 16 2011 15:20 Tachion wrote:
In response to Idra, about being able to be a high level player outside of Korea right now which you couldn't do in BW, all the best players in the world are still viewed as being there in the GSL. Nestea Zerg, MVP Terran, MC Protoss, that's not a coincidence is it? Maybe you don't have to be in Korea anymore to win money, but all the prestige is still there.
I guess the question that it comes to is, is the prestige of playing in Korea worth it?


I think the biggest reason is money. Like Tyler was talking about last week or the week before: going to Korea and getting in Code A then winning code A will maybe make you break even with the money spent to fly to Korea. Idra's in code S and makes pretty good money but he could probably make a lot more playing in America/Europe.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
February 16 2011 06:22 GMT
#9904
I still think it's hilarious that Idra just trolled the whole group who wanted to play him. Obvious solution is for Zenio, Clide to participate in two starleagues at once, lol.

So if nasl.tv is legit, and there will be an NA starleague, that's obviously exciting news, but I wonder how that'll pan out. Since so many players are moving to Cali, and IdrA's moving back, that would indicate a live tournament, but the US is so large I doubt even US players would travel if the SL is on a schedule like Korean ones, where you have to play every day- there aren't enough US pros to carry that and I doubt enough foreign people would want to pick up everything and move, unless the prizes are truly huge.
Maybe Idra/Incontrol/Gretorp/everyone else moving to Cali is part of the tourney organization in some way? like Incontrol's casting or something? But then IdrA's moving back makes no sense since as far as I know he wants to remain a player, and if he was just a player and it wasn't a live tourney he could stay in Korea...confused.
Pervect
Profile Joined June 2007
1280 Posts
February 16 2011 06:24 GMT
#9905
In regards to the nasl.tv thing someone posted this:

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Profile Blog Joined September 2010
629 Posts
February 16 2011 06:24 GMT
#9906
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Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
February 16 2011 06:26 GMT
#9907
On February 16 2011 15:24 Vezex wrote:
korea will still be the meca for starcraft 2, mlg will never be on the level of the GSL :|

its cool they are trying to hype up western sc2, but i wouldn't get anyones hopes up...


GSL and MLG are single tournaments. There is a hell of a lot more than just MLG in the west but not much more than GSL in Korea.

We might not see any single western tournament grow to rival GSL but all of them combined may very well surpass it.
znowstorm
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia281 Posts
February 16 2011 06:27 GMT
#9908
So is Idra back in US before the 21st Jinro game?? I hope not for lag issues.
Pudge_172
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1378 Posts
February 16 2011 06:28 GMT
#9909
On February 16 2011 15:27 znowstorm wrote:
So is Idra back in US before the 21st Jinro game?? I hope not for lag issues.


Idra said his flight is sometime in March.
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Inflexion
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada560 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 06:29:41
February 16 2011 06:29 GMT
#9910
On February 16 2011 15:27 znowstorm wrote:
So is Idra back in US before the 21st Jinro game?? I hope not for lag issues.


they will probably just play each other before he leaves and save the replays for casting on the 21st.. they can also do it on smurf accounts so no one will be able to check history.....

edit: nvm, he's coming back mid march
Four wheels move the body; two wheels move the soul.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
February 16 2011 06:29 GMT
#9911
On February 16 2011 15:26 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2011 15:24 Vezex wrote:
korea will still be the meca for starcraft 2, mlg will never be on the level of the GSL :|

its cool they are trying to hype up western sc2, but i wouldn't get anyones hopes up...


GSL and MLG are single tournaments. There is a hell of a lot more than just MLG in the west but not much more than GSL in Korea.

We might not see any single western tournament grow to rival GSL but all of them combined may very well surpass it.

Basically this. GOM released the highest paying players, and Koreans are at the top of the list because of the GSL but it's only the people who can consistently make like the top 4- MKP, Jinro, etc.- under that and you could probably make almost as much by attending foreign tournaments. That and the fact that you can understand the language of everyone around you and have a lot of practice partners that you can communicate with is probably a huge incentive to move back as well.
StutteR
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1903 Posts
February 16 2011 06:30 GMT
#9912
On February 16 2011 15:24 Vezex wrote:
korea will still be the meca for starcraft 2, mlg will never be on the level of the GSL :|

its cool they are trying to hype up western sc2, but i wouldn't get anyones hopes up...



I don't know about that and it seems like the pros aren't sure about that as well. Korea has around 2 tourneys a month. Very high risk but with high reward. Europe and NA have plenty of tournaments albeit with smaller prizes. We'll see what happens with NASL but right now it's way easier to make a name for yourself and make some money outside of Korea.
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Pervect
Profile Joined June 2007
1280 Posts
February 16 2011 06:31 GMT
#9913
the question tyler read holy shit rofl
Seagull_
Profile Joined August 2010
75 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 06:34:07
February 16 2011 06:33 GMT
#9914
tyler dodging question, thus incontrol's story is likely true, NICE TRY TYLER, CANNOT ESCAPE
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
February 16 2011 06:34 GMT
#9915
On February 16 2011 15:24 Vezex wrote:
korea will still be the meca for starcraft 2, mlg will never be on the level of the GSL :|

its cool they are trying to hype up western sc2, but i wouldn't get anyones hopes up...


LOL its the opposite, sc2 in korea has a lot less potential than it does in the western world.
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pookums
Profile Joined December 2010
151 Posts
February 16 2011 06:34 GMT
#9916
Fuck yeah Northeast Ohio
ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
February 16 2011 06:35 GMT
#9917
On February 16 2011 15:33 Seagull_ wrote:
tyler dodging question, thus incontrol's story is likely true, NICE TRY TYLER, CANNOT ESCAPE

What was the question?
"My sister is on vacation in Costa Rica right now. I hope she stays a while because she's a miserable cunt." -pubbanana
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
February 16 2011 06:35 GMT
#9918
IdrA got hit by a bucket!
VENDIZ
Profile Joined October 2010
1575 Posts
February 16 2011 06:36 GMT
#9919
Geoff must be the best hype-guy -ever-, I'm soooo looking forward to his story
SaGe fighting!!~~~~~~
Pervect
Profile Joined June 2007
1280 Posts
February 16 2011 06:39 GMT
#9920
These stories own hahaha
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