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On January 06 2011 00:06 Darpa wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2011 23:43 xtfftc wrote:
Why are people under the wrong impression that the show needs a Terran perspective? Because a whole lot of the show is talking about terran imbalances. So realistically, they should have a top terran on the show to give their perspective. Idra, Artosis constantly say terran is imbalanced and give their reasons. The show needs a terran to respond to have a well rounded opinion basis
I think Artosis and IdrA are basing their opinions off the1 base all-in.
I feel like most of their comments are geared toward the fact that 1 Base Terran is stupidly effective. Which, it is.
Or 2 basing Terrans who don't know what a third base looks like.
However, I don't think they mean that the entire race as it is, is imbalanced.
Macro Terrans will start to emerge, who make more than 2-3 bases, and who don't rush their pushes and try to win the game.
But yes I agree, their is a noticeable underrepresentation for the Terran race in these casts.
They should definately look into getting some notable Terran players and asking them about their thoughts on the state of starcraft II.
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On January 06 2011 00:06 Darpa wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2011 23:43 xtfftc wrote:
Why are people under the wrong impression that the show needs a Terran perspective? Because a whole lot of the show is talking about terran imbalances. So realistically, they should have a top terran on the show to give their perspective. Idra, Artosis constantly say terran is imbalanced and give their reasons. The show needs a terran to respond to have a well rounded opinion basis
There's no Western Terran whose play is comparable to what IdrA and Artosis regularly face. Watch HuK/IdrA/Ret/Wind's stream.
I like Painuser, but you're not going to get a well rounded response by asking him what he thinks about 2rax all ins, because he doesn't do them. Meanwhile, that's what happens most of the time on the Korean ladder.
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*cough cough* Jinro, Jibba?
But basicly I agree
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On January 06 2011 01:30 ch4ppi wrote:
*cough cough* Jinro, Jibba?
But basicly I agree
I don't think Jinro 2rax all-ins much...
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On January 06 2011 01:30 ch4ppi wrote:
*cough cough* Jinro, Jibba?
But basicly I agree
By "comparable", I think he meant someone who plays like the standard Terrans that Artosis and Idra face, not someone who's as skilled or better. From what I've seen, Jinro doesn't 2rax all in a ton. So, yeah, he's a Terran on the Korean ladder, but he's not really representative of what the generic high-diamond Terran is.
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On January 06 2011 01:30 ch4ppi wrote:
*cough cough* Jinro, Jibba?
But basicly I agree
Jinro's style is completely different from a MKP or even MVP. I have a feeling that they're a lot less frustrated when they lose to Jinro than the other two.
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Mostly I think you guys have had great guests. The exception (in my opinion) being psy and a bit too much of artosis. I also think Artosis and IdrA is a bad combo. They clearly agree on a LOT and kind of overlap each other a bit. Looking forward to hearing sundance on the show hopefully. Tons of people I'd love to listen to on the show. TLO, Jinro, qxc etc etc.
I think it might be interesting to have some guests on part of the show only, kind of like you did with Lee. Have a tailored agenda and red thread going while that person is on. Then kick em off and resume as normal. Here I think someone like djWheat or Raistlin would be interesting to hear from.
NAAAAAAZGUL! I heard his audio interview a while back and he spoke very intelligently. I think he'd be awesome x3. Player, manager and admin.
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But I'm certain that Jinro has done the 2 rax all-in before, or at the very least, knows how to do it. You can't be a Terran pro in Korea and not know the most popular TvZ build order on the ladder. He can still give his opinion on the 2 rax, and why he doesn't do it.
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On January 06 2011 01:56 KevinIX wrote:
But I'm certain that Jinro has done the 2 rax all-in before, or at the very least, knows how to do it. You can't be a Terran pro in Korea and not know the most popular TvZ build order on the ladder. He can still give his opinion on the 2 rax, and why he doesn't do it.
Yeah, true. Either way, a greater selection of T guests would be nice.
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Just because you see allot of 2 rax all ins doesn't mean that those are good players. I would make the argument to you that fauxer is dog shit terrible (compared to most who get to high tiers of GSL), but since no one has a response for that build, he can still do well. I'd rather hear from a guy like jinro who plays a real game, not try to end every game early.
In the theory of any multiplayer game the stronger player wants the game to go on longer so his decision making (and in the case of SC mechanics) can give him advantages. I would argue that people who consistently do all ins are inferior players to a player like MC or Jinro.
Just my 2 cents.
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On January 04 2011 12:08 t3tsubo wrote:
SOTG twitter says no SOTG until three weeks from now aka January 24/25th. Dammit.
T__________T
Getting soooo impatient. :\
Not even next week? ;|
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On January 06 2011 01:56 cYaN wrote:
Mostly I think you guys have had great guests. The exception (in my opinion) being psy[...].
Heeey, nothing wrong with psy, is there? Please tell why 
Either way this show is awesome. It's also fun to check out the older ones, and hear analyses about the infestor's new spell - infested terran, and how the show just bashes down on it ;d
Brings you back ^^
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I felt physical pain when I saw no SotG for 3 weeks
PS If anyone bothers reading this I loved PainUser as a guest 
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On January 06 2011 01:37 templar rage wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2011 01:30 ch4ppi wrote:
*cough cough* Jinro, Jibba?
But basicly I agree By "comparable", I think he meant someone who plays like the standard Terrans that Artosis and Idra face, not someone who's as skilled or better. From what I've seen, Jinro doesn't 2rax all in a ton. So, yeah, he's a Terran on the Korean ladder, but he's not really representative of what the generic high-diamond Terran is.
I think he tried did it in the Gisado challenge. It didn't go too well
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On August 19 2010 14:22 itmeJP wrote:
State of the Game will be returning in roughly 3 weeks. Some announcements have to hit and some pens need to be put to paper. Exciting!
When did he write that?
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@Jibba
Im sorry I missunderstoof u, I thought u are speaking of the level of play not the style. My bad.
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in the interim i suggest we all talk about the extended series...
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in the interim i suggest we all talk about the extended series...
What's to talk about? It's clearly the best idea ever. jj
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EPT
