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Smigi
Profile Joined April 2010
United States328 Posts
January 05 2011 15:20 GMT
#8101
On January 06 2011 00:06 Darpa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2011 23:43 xtfftc wrote:
Why are people under the wrong impression that the show needs a Terran perspective?


Because a whole lot of the show is talking about terran imbalances. So realistically, they should have a top terran on the show to give their perspective. Idra, Artosis constantly say terran is imbalanced and give their reasons. The show needs a terran to respond to have a well rounded opinion basis


I think Artosis and IdrA are basing their opinions off the1 base all-in.

I feel like most of their comments are geared toward the fact that 1 Base Terran is stupidly effective. Which, it is.
Or 2 basing Terrans who don't know what a third base looks like.

However, I don't think they mean that the entire race as it is, is imbalanced.

Macro Terrans will start to emerge, who make more than 2-3 bases, and who don't rush their pushes and try to win the game.

But yes I agree, their is a noticeable underrepresentation for the Terran race in these casts.

They should definately look into getting some notable Terran players and asking them about their thoughts on the state of starcraft II.
Drone then Own
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
January 05 2011 15:58 GMT
#8102
On January 06 2011 00:06 Darpa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2011 23:43 xtfftc wrote:
Why are people under the wrong impression that the show needs a Terran perspective?


Because a whole lot of the show is talking about terran imbalances. So realistically, they should have a top terran on the show to give their perspective. Idra, Artosis constantly say terran is imbalanced and give their reasons. The show needs a terran to respond to have a well rounded opinion basis

There's no Western Terran whose play is comparable to what IdrA and Artosis regularly face. Watch HuK/IdrA/Ret/Wind's stream.

I like Painuser, but you're not going to get a well rounded response by asking him what he thinks about 2rax all ins, because he doesn't do them. Meanwhile, that's what happens most of the time on the Korean ladder.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
ch4ppi
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany802 Posts
January 05 2011 16:30 GMT
#8103
*cough cough* Jinro, Jibba?
But basicly I agree
BasedSwag
Profile Joined April 2010
Algeria418 Posts
January 05 2011 16:34 GMT
#8104
On January 06 2011 01:30 ch4ppi wrote:
*cough cough* Jinro, Jibba?
But basicly I agree


I don't think Jinro 2rax all-ins much...
templar rage
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2509 Posts
January 05 2011 16:37 GMT
#8105
On January 06 2011 01:30 ch4ppi wrote:
*cough cough* Jinro, Jibba?
But basicly I agree


By "comparable", I think he meant someone who plays like the standard Terrans that Artosis and Idra face, not someone who's as skilled or better. From what I've seen, Jinro doesn't 2rax all in a ton. So, yeah, he's a Terran on the Korean ladder, but he's not really representative of what the generic high-diamond Terran is.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
January 05 2011 16:52 GMT
#8106
On January 06 2011 01:30 ch4ppi wrote:
*cough cough* Jinro, Jibba?
But basicly I agree

Jinro's style is completely different from a MKP or even MVP. I have a feeling that they're a lot less frustrated when they lose to Jinro than the other two.
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cYaN
Profile Joined May 2004
Norway3322 Posts
January 05 2011 16:56 GMT
#8107
Mostly I think you guys have had great guests. The exception (in my opinion) being psy and a bit too much of artosis. I also think Artosis and IdrA is a bad combo. They clearly agree on a LOT and kind of overlap each other a bit. Looking forward to hearing sundance on the show hopefully. Tons of people I'd love to listen to on the show. TLO, Jinro, qxc etc etc.

I think it might be interesting to have some guests on part of the show only, kind of like you did with Lee. Have a tailored agenda and red thread going while that person is on. Then kick em off and resume as normal. Here I think someone like djWheat or Raistlin would be interesting to hear from.

NAAAAAAZGUL! I heard his audio interview a while back and he spoke very intelligently. I think he'd be awesome x3. Player, manager and admin.
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
January 05 2011 16:56 GMT
#8108
But I'm certain that Jinro has done the 2 rax all-in before, or at the very least, knows how to do it. You can't be a Terran pro in Korea and not know the most popular TvZ build order on the ladder. He can still give his opinion on the 2 rax, and why he doesn't do it.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
January 05 2011 17:18 GMT
#8109
On January 06 2011 01:56 KevinIX wrote:
But I'm certain that Jinro has done the 2 rax all-in before, or at the very least, knows how to do it. You can't be a Terran pro in Korea and not know the most popular TvZ build order on the ladder. He can still give his opinion on the 2 rax, and why he doesn't do it.

Yeah, true. Either way, a greater selection of T guests would be nice.
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Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
January 05 2011 17:40 GMT
#8110
Just because you see allot of 2 rax all ins doesn't mean that those are good players. I would make the argument to you that fauxer is dog shit terrible (compared to most who get to high tiers of GSL), but since no one has a response for that build, he can still do well. I'd rather hear from a guy like jinro who plays a real game, not try to end every game early.

In the theory of any multiplayer game the stronger player wants the game to go on longer so his decision making (and in the case of SC mechanics) can give him advantages. I would argue that people who consistently do all ins are inferior players to a player like MC or Jinro.

Just my 2 cents.
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
January 05 2011 22:49 GMT
#8111
On January 04 2011 12:08 t3tsubo wrote:
SOTG twitter says no SOTG until three weeks from now aka January 24/25th. Dammit.

T__________T


Getting soooo impatient. :\

Not even next week? ;|
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
January 06 2011 00:35 GMT
#8112
On January 06 2011 01:56 cYaN wrote:
Mostly I think you guys have had great guests. The exception (in my opinion) being psy[...].


Heeey, nothing wrong with psy, is there? Please tell why

Either way this show is awesome. It's also fun to check out the older ones, and hear analyses about the infestor's new spell - infested terran, and how the show just bashes down on it ;d
Brings you back ^^
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Deleted User 109835
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
629 Posts
January 06 2011 04:00 GMT
#8113
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GuiltyJerk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States584 Posts
January 06 2011 04:16 GMT
#8114
I felt physical pain when I saw no SotG for 3 weeks

PS If anyone bothers reading this I loved PainUser as a guest
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
January 06 2011 04:18 GMT
#8115
Get jinro as a guest.
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
January 06 2011 05:05 GMT
#8116
On January 06 2011 01:37 templar rage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2011 01:30 ch4ppi wrote:
*cough cough* Jinro, Jibba?
But basicly I agree


By "comparable", I think he meant someone who plays like the standard Terrans that Artosis and Idra face, not someone who's as skilled or better. From what I've seen, Jinro doesn't 2rax all in a ton. So, yeah, he's a Terran on the Korean ladder, but he's not really representative of what the generic high-diamond Terran is.


I think he tried did it in the Gisado challenge. It didn't go too well
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-06 22:42:33
January 06 2011 22:42 GMT
#8117
On August 19 2010 14:22 itmeJP wrote:

State of the Game will be returning in roughly 3 weeks. Some announcements have to hit and some pens need to be put to paper. Exciting!


When did he write that?
My grandpa could've proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
ch4ppi
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany802 Posts
January 06 2011 22:44 GMT
#8118
@Jibba

Im sorry I missunderstoof u, I thought u are speaking of the level of play not the style. My bad.
weeeee
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia71 Posts
January 06 2011 22:46 GMT
#8119
in the interim i suggest we all talk about the extended series...
travolta
Le BucheRON
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada619 Posts
January 06 2011 22:49 GMT
#8120
in the interim i suggest we all talk about the extended series...


What's to talk about? It's clearly the best idea ever. jj
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