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Qzy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Denmark1121 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 09:11:07
September 28 2010 09:09 GMT
#661
IdrA/Artosis - there's a way to minimize the damage from the pylon/cannon in front of your entrance. Make hatch inside your base, near your choke, cancel it and make a sunken on the creep it makes.

Not sure if you know that method, I've seen Cella do it a few times. But yeah .. a bit behind i guess
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Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 09:15:00
September 28 2010 09:13 GMT
#662
On September 28 2010 18:09 Qzy wrote:
IdrA/Artosis - there's a way to prevent the pylon/cannon in front of your entrance. Make hatch inside your base, near your choke, cancel it and make a sunken on the creep it makes.

But yeah .. a bit behind i guess



A bit behind? lol

75 gold loss for canceling hatchery
150 + mining time lost for drone creating spine crawler
Late 2nd hatchery making, hurting economy, and making 4 gate significantly stronger because creep is delayed from spreading to defend with spines. Lots of larva spawning time lost.

The best way to defend it is definitely to take 1 drone off to chase probe and a 2nd to patrol at bottom of ramp to prevent pylons from building.

Protoss loses 350 gold, which I don't think is nearly as significant as not having that extra hatchery up.
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Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
September 28 2010 09:14 GMT
#663
No offense to Psy, but you could have replaced him with a brick wall and it would have made absolutely no difference to the podcast.
itmeJP
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1101 Posts
September 28 2010 09:22 GMT
#664
On September 28 2010 18:14 Dommk wrote:
No offense to Psy, but you could have replaced him with a brick wall and it would have made absolutely no difference to the podcast.

Not really his fault. I could of thrown to him more but he wasn't that comfortable talking about a lot of the eSport things we did.
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vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 09:41:20
September 28 2010 09:23 GMT
#665
On September 28 2010 18:14 Dommk wrote:
No offense to Psy, but you could have replaced him with a brick wall and it would have made absolutely no difference to the podcast.

Yeah, I was surprised at how quiet he was. His casting personality gives the impression that he isn't.. that shy? Oh well, I guess it might be a bit intimidating. He's a new and upcoming (relatively new anyway) caster and he's supposed to talk eSports with some of the most established names in the scene.

Whoever said he was too humble wasn't far off the mark, even Cluck talked more in his first SotG. But then again we can thank Psy for the "Who's Artosis" story Incontrol provided, which had me laughing out loud throughout.

I'm wondering though, will every SotG be so focused on the GSL? It's interesting, especially when someone like IdrA is about but personally I'd prefer to listen to opinions of the patch notes more in depth and the GSL in a more general sense. Just nitpicking though, but I personally would've liked to hear more about the tank change (for example) on the metagame rather than what everyone thinks about every GSL game.

Also wasn't much of a fan of the lightning round. It felt a bit forced to be honest. On the other hand I'd love to see IdrA make a return, all his nerdrage aside he's definitely interesting to listen to. Seemed he spent more time explaining why he thinks certain things are unbalanced rather than saying "Nope, it's impossible to beat blabla", contrast to another zerg player that's been on the cast a few times

I might be sounding a bit too negative, just posting some personal gripes. I'm really enjoying the SotG, hell there's not one I haven't enjoyed. great that we're seeing them every week as well, and they have definitely improved a lot from the beta (not that they were bad in the beta, far from it). Keep the good work up, I never thought I'd be listening to/following any podcast but then SotG came about. Definitely looking forward to next week.
TheWoodLeagueAllstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom617 Posts
September 28 2010 09:34 GMT
#666
Good show, few comments though id like to say i still really enjoyed it :D

1) Too many people, theres trouble enough at times with 4 to hear everyone on skype, especially during arguments, so keeping it to 4 is probably the best.

2) The lightning round didnt work too well, good idea, not sure its really working for an sc2 podcast

3) Psy was quiet, but i think alot of that was due to having 6 people in at the end, he was a good guest

4) Idra was a really good guest, very informative

5) Im not so sure the ranking reading each week needs to detail the top10 of every country, it seems theres not huge amounts of movement and it also seems that you guys collectively agree the ranking system is kind of a joke, so its hard to really give great analysis on it.

6) The user questions spark the best debate, i find at least, i had a few questions answered :D but it wasnt how good my questions were that sparked the debate, it was just a new and interesting topic to discuss which bled into other things and other points of discussion.

Those points shouldnt detract from that fact that it was still a very very interesting show :D
Bunker rushing is the way to a mans heart <3
itmeJP
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1101 Posts
September 28 2010 09:48 GMT
#667
Yeah, the lightning round didn't go as well as I thought. I might scrap that on future episodes. Been trying to test out different segments. Feel free to suggest some.

I asked if we should do the top 200 still before the cast and the consensus was yes, but might make it a monthly thing. I do like the banter between NonY and iNcontrol (and now that we have a bet) regarding ladder placement.

The patch notes were discussed in a previous episode so that is why we did not cover them again.

User questions are great! Please keep them coming!
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PsyStarcraft
Profile Joined June 2010
United States30 Posts
September 28 2010 10:05 GMT
#668
No offense to Psy, but you could have replaced him with a brick wall and it would have made absolutely no difference to the podcast.


Fun fact: I was actually constructing a brick wall in Minecraft while representing a brick wall in the podcast! I'm artistic like that.
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TheWoodLeagueAllstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom617 Posts
September 28 2010 10:08 GMT
#669
On September 28 2010 18:48 itmeJP wrote:
Yeah, the lightning round didn't go as well as I thought. I might scrap that on future episodes. Been trying to test out different segments. Feel free to suggest some.

I asked if we should do the top 200 still before the cast and the consensus was yes, but might make it a monthly thing. I do like the banter between NonY and iNcontrol (and now that we have a bet) regarding ladder placement.

The patch notes were discussed in a previous episode so that is why we did not cover them again.

User questions are great! Please keep them coming!


Oh dont not do the top 200 :D just theres no real need to read out every league from every server, sure discuss some of the bigger things but it seems odd to give so much credence to a top10 when as you all seem to agree, its not really worth anything.
Bunker rushing is the way to a mans heart <3
Ghad
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway2551 Posts
September 28 2010 10:36 GMT
#670
Psy, please tell us, did you plan out the soundtrack?
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syrupychinadian
Profile Joined September 2010
112 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 11:07:15
September 28 2010 11:05 GMT
#671
On September 28 2010 18:48 itmeJP wrote:
Yeah, the lightning round didn't go as well as I thought. I might scrap that on future episodes. Been trying to test out different segments. Feel free to suggest some.

I asked if we should do the top 200 still before the cast and the consensus was yes, but might make it a monthly thing. I do like the banter between NonY and iNcontrol (and now that we have a bet) regarding ladder placement.

The patch notes were discussed in a previous episode so that is why we did not cover them again.

User questions are great! Please keep them coming!



Ya I think a monthly 200 would be a good idea instead of going through the entire top 200 for every territory. Instead, just compare the one or two that jump out....like 'Tyler...and have him and Incontrol go at it. Or if someone like Qxc just plays 1000 games and jumps into 1st place all of a sudden.

I think the blank reading of the lists are a little slow compared to the rest of the podcast. Not that its bad, just a little slow.

Looking really forward to TLO, really liked him in the beta SotGs.





chickensmasher
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada57 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 11:28:06
September 28 2010 11:16 GMT
#672
Convince Idra to join in every week! Incontrol and Idra are both hilariously honest.
And having such high level zerg insight is awesome.
Heed thee thine own encouragement that whilst we play this game, emotions are present. -The book of Geoff 5:12
SomaliPirate
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom28 Posts
September 28 2010 11:42 GMT
#673
i loved the jazz in the background bit by psy lool but was it just me or where the audio levels very out of sync ? looking forward to TLO and where was nony it was like he was replaced by psy them too do the same amount of talking
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Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 12:11:31
September 28 2010 12:09 GMT
#674
Wow JP totally blocks psy out of the discussion for the majority of the podcast just through asking the others questions all the time..you can't expect a new guest to try to fight for his right to speak when you have dominant people like day 9 and inc on the show, its the responsiblity of the host to deal with that :I

Kinda rude for a new guest :I
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guitarizt
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1492 Posts
September 28 2010 12:21 GMT
#675
I think psy might have been quiet because he hasn't been playing 1vs1 much lately and he already said before he hasn't been following esports lately. Thanks to psy and idra for coming on please try to keep them on in the future. It would be nice to get a good terran player like tlo on. Lightning round was pointless I vote no for it in the future but I like that jp's trying new stuff out. Podcast is awesome thx.
“There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.” - Hemingway
syrupychinadian
Profile Joined September 2010
112 Posts
September 28 2010 12:27 GMT
#676
On September 28 2010 21:09 Senx wrote:
Wow JP totally blocks psy out of the discussion for the majority of the podcast just through asking the others questions all the time..you can't expect a new guest to try to fight for his right to speak when you have dominant people like day 9 and inc on the show, its the responsiblity of the host to deal with that :I

Kinda rude for a new guest :I



I think that's a little harsh on JP. A lot of what makes a podcast is the personality and what makes personality is familiarity within the podcasting group. You need to be familiar and respectful of each other enough to do things like make fun of artosis and harp on Nony. So if a new guest just jumps in, that guest needs to have the manhood to put it on the line and jump in with his thoughts. If not, he just ends up disappearing into the background, cause Day9 and Incontrol are big personalities and those two can drown a fish (tho I <3 Day9 and Incontrol). Finally I think it should be 1 new guest at a time. That way you can taylor the podcast to be about that guest, to help give him more air time. (ie, a tournament he just played or a build that he came up with, etc)

Also I do agree with an earlier post that the group is getting a little big. Having a new guest every week may be stretching things a little thin. Trying to give everyone time with a 5/6 man group is really difficult. An occasional guest here and there is great and exciting (especially if its not announced imo), but for a regular weekly podcast, I think having a regular group is better for the long run. And with the number of forum drama and tournaments going on right now, there's plenty of things to talk about.

Keep up the good work!

gozima
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada602 Posts
September 28 2010 12:46 GMT
#677
On September 28 2010 18:14 Dommk wrote:
No offense to Psy, but you could have replaced him with a brick wall and it would have made absolutely no difference to the podcast.



I totally agree with this guy. Psy was just a huge disappointment in general. He was basically a no show, knowing almost nothing about the GSL and E-Sports in general.

IdrA was great, I hope you guys can get him on more often.

Day[9] laughs like a girly girl too often for me to take him seriously on the podcast. The dude must be hopped up on nitrous or something.

The podcast was entertaining as usually though. Thanks for all the work JP and I'm looking forward to the next cast.
Artisan
Profile Joined February 2010
United States336 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 13:15:38
September 28 2010 13:15 GMT
#678
lmao Incontrol's rant on Artosis so amazing
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 13:17:11
September 28 2010 13:15 GMT
#679
On September 28 2010 18:08 Seam wrote:
Loved it :3

Incontrol's reply to "Who's Artosis?" was hilarious XD


"He's the moss that grows on a tree that tells you where the sun is"

Day[9] laughs like a girly girl too often for me to take him seriously on the podcast.


God forbid Random Canadian Dude #1251262 doesn't take you seriously for laughing at jokes when talking about games on the Intertubes.
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Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
September 28 2010 13:32 GMT
#680
Skype kinda sucks when multiple people are talking at once, which I guess ideally in a podcast you wouldn't, but have you considered using someone's ventrilo server instead?
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