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On January 25 2013 02:31 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 01:31 dcemuser wrote:On January 17 2013 19:45 Vespasian wrote:
first was Day(9) who i feel was a bit mistreated by JP which was a bit funny as Day9 introduced JP to the Sc2 scene and when JP first started SOTG his main star and attraction was Day9 before the rise of Incontroll . So first of the "dream" team to part ways was Day9 ,i feel somewhat marginalized by Incontrol and to a lesser extent JP. I feel Incontrol hated D9 for some reason and always bashed him a bit in normally friendly discussions. But hey , you cant pin that on Incontrol as he "hated" alote of people , especially before he understood you cant treat everyone as shit and say you are joking (remember the first controversial episodes) when Incontroll created his first dedicated anti fans , or haters as some people call them. Lol, you're crazy if you think Day9 left for personality reasons. His time on the show was always limited and it was getting worse and worse over time - he'd miss multiple SotGs in a row. Day9 is the type of person who has to pour 100% into whatever he's doing. He gets incredibly upset when he thinks he is not giving it 100%. He's fallen apart on some dailies before and just flat out started them over because he thought they weren't as great as usual even if the audience thought they were fine. If you really think Day9 left for any other reason than that, I doubt you honestly watch either the Day9 Daily or State of the Game. As for the rest of it, yes, you've summed up the history of State of the Game - what of it? Even if they could do it all over again, I'm not sure there is an incredibly large amount that they would have done differently. People forget that this podcast is always been about 4-5 people screwing around and talking about StarCraft, and when people in the community started to take it super seriously is when it started to have problems. People were crying about an -informal- podcast not having a -formal- schedule or that pillars could not make every appearance, not to mention over half a dozen other "controversies". The demands for an unprofessional podcast to become professional were contradictory to what everyone liked about it - the fact that it wasn't professional. There are days I really feel bad for JP and the other Pillars. I work for some pretty ungrateful clients, who love to pick apart my firm's work, deny invoices and generally make sure we are paid as little as possible. It is really demotivating to work for them at times when they refuse to pay for something you spent hours working on. I get paid very well to deal with this and that does a lot to off set the issues of ungrateful clients, aggressive and rude clients. I could not imagine doing something for free that the community just tears apart the moment they smell blood in the water. There is just no way. Passive aggressive posts like the one you responded to just make me sad. It is so clear that the poster is trying to tear down JP, despite his claims. The fact that the community has become so accepting of these passive aggressive trolls, who hide behind the guise of “criticism”, really makes me wonder if we will ever have SotG again. It has become so clear to me that there are people who just get off on the power they have over these start up shows like SotG and ITG, and live to tear them down as much as possible. The empowerment of the community has become a tool for people to abuse for their own amusement. Maybe there might be SotG again, but I think JP should divorce it from TL and reddit in almost every way. I think it would best for the people who enjoy and cared about the show, since we can show our fandom in other ways.
I agree x10000 with your sentiments. I'm astonished the pillars haven't lost their sanity too.
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On January 25 2013 07:35 tshi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 02:31 Plansix wrote:On January 25 2013 01:31 dcemuser wrote:On January 17 2013 19:45 Vespasian wrote:
first was Day(9) who i feel was a bit mistreated by JP which was a bit funny as Day9 introduced JP to the Sc2 scene and when JP first started SOTG his main star and attraction was Day9 before the rise of Incontroll . So first of the "dream" team to part ways was Day9 ,i feel somewhat marginalized by Incontrol and to a lesser extent JP. I feel Incontrol hated D9 for some reason and always bashed him a bit in normally friendly discussions. But hey , you cant pin that on Incontrol as he "hated" alote of people , especially before he understood you cant treat everyone as shit and say you are joking (remember the first controversial episodes) when Incontroll created his first dedicated anti fans , or haters as some people call them. Lol, you're crazy if you think Day9 left for personality reasons. His time on the show was always limited and it was getting worse and worse over time - he'd miss multiple SotGs in a row. Day9 is the type of person who has to pour 100% into whatever he's doing. He gets incredibly upset when he thinks he is not giving it 100%. He's fallen apart on some dailies before and just flat out started them over because he thought they weren't as great as usual even if the audience thought they were fine. If you really think Day9 left for any other reason than that, I doubt you honestly watch either the Day9 Daily or State of the Game. As for the rest of it, yes, you've summed up the history of State of the Game - what of it? Even if they could do it all over again, I'm not sure there is an incredibly large amount that they would have done differently. People forget that this podcast is always been about 4-5 people screwing around and talking about StarCraft, and when people in the community started to take it super seriously is when it started to have problems. People were crying about an -informal- podcast not having a -formal- schedule or that pillars could not make every appearance, not to mention over half a dozen other "controversies". The demands for an unprofessional podcast to become professional were contradictory to what everyone liked about it - the fact that it wasn't professional. There are days I really feel bad for JP and the other Pillars. I work for some pretty ungrateful clients, who love to pick apart my firm's work, deny invoices and generally make sure we are paid as little as possible. It is really demotivating to work for them at times when they refuse to pay for something you spent hours working on. I get paid very well to deal with this and that does a lot to off set the issues of ungrateful clients, aggressive and rude clients. I could not imagine doing something for free that the community just tears apart the moment they smell blood in the water. There is just no way. Passive aggressive posts like the one you responded to just make me sad. It is so clear that the poster is trying to tear down JP, despite his claims. The fact that the community has become so accepting of these passive aggressive trolls, who hide behind the guise of “criticism”, really makes me wonder if we will ever have SotG again. It has become so clear to me that there are people who just get off on the power they have over these start up shows like SotG and ITG, and live to tear them down as much as possible. The empowerment of the community has become a tool for people to abuse for their own amusement. Maybe there might be SotG again, but I think JP should divorce it from TL and reddit in almost every way. I think it would best for the people who enjoy and cared about the show, since we can show our fandom in other ways. I agree x10000 with your sentiments. I'm astonished the pillars haven't lost their sanity too.
Well, Day9 has a lantern to keep his sanity healthy ; )
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This is weird....JP didn't say anything about a new episode on Twitter. Unless I missed it?
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On January 25 2013 09:56 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
This is weird....JP didn't say anything about a new episode on Twitter. Unless I missed it?
Probably because he doesn't care if certain kinds of people miss it.
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I'm so happy!
OH SHIT!!! Artosis and Tyler are going to be on too!
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On January 25 2013 10:20 Brindled wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 09:56 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
This is weird....JP didn't say anything about a new episode on Twitter. Unless I missed it? Probably because he doesn't care if certain kinds of people miss it.
He wants to teach us constant vigilance and total map scouting in every stage of the game.
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wow 5 am my time, not watching it live lol
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HeeroFX, it's on now, and your TL profile says you live in the USA like I do. D; weird it's on at 5 am. xD
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So are there any consistent pillars other then jp? I miss the old guys 
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On January 25 2013 11:48 nmetasch wrote:So are there any consistent pillars other then jp? I miss the old guys
Nony seems to be somewhat consistent.
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LOL artosis just cant wait to rip on american airlines
I love this banter
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lol I visited america over new year the first time for 5 years and heard terrible stories about TSA and more. But actually everyone I had to deal with on 3 delta flights and on american airports have been very friendly. Even more than I'd expect of someone doing those jobs.
QXC+Artosis+Tyler will be good, I hope they talk about ingame stuff.
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And Artosis ends up on a terrorist watch-dog list.
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On January 25 2013 11:07 figq wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 10:20 Brindled wrote:On January 25 2013 09:56 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
This is weird....JP didn't say anything about a new episode on Twitter. Unless I missed it? Probably because he doesn't care if certain kinds of people miss it. He wants to teach us constant vigilance and total map scouting in every stage of the game.
LOL. 
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OSL IN APRIL WOW! nice announcement bomb of doa :D
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On January 25 2013 12:02 frogrubdown wrote:
And Artosis ends up on a terrorist watch-dog list.
hahaha. THis is so random. I wish they can have Artosis in all episodes
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ARTOSIS, I LOUVEEEEEEEEEE UUUUUUU
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EPT
