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On October 26 2012 20:06 FreudianTrip wrote:Hey, I'm not trying to start any drama but I'd just like to fact check something Wolf said about the new OGN caster, Montecristo. Wolf said that DoA had told him he was Masters in Beta. This isn't true. I made a comment to Adebisi how it was a joke that some guy who definitely doesn't play Starcraft has been hired by OGN to cast it. Showing they don't really care about their English stream. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/s2tqC.png) I'd like to say again that I'm not trying to create drama. My issues are with the OGN stream in general rather than this specific guy.
Wasn´t platinum the highest in beta? So saying "master" hits it quite well.
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Really nice to have the show going on again. I'm liking the new hosts a lot. I just hope to hear artosis and nony a bit, since i can't listen to them anywhere else ( i mean outside of commentating, for artosis, obviously).
I feel the show is a bit less "fun", and a bit more "starcraft". I'm liking it.
I'm willing to support the show, and give money to your channel since i only download the MP3 but i'm a little scared it will just fade away abruptly like last time. SO, i make the following statement: if you manage to have 3 episodes in a row, i will suscribe, and remain subscribed until you miss 3 weeks in a row. Seems fair and balanced. Like a warhound.
Much love to you and all the guys,
PS: appreciated to watch it live for the first time thanks to the UE friendly time ! !
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Hey JP,
I'm subscribing to your twitch.tv channel because your shows are a savior to my commute. I will give my two cents now:
Please don't stop uploading mp3s.
The new SOTG is awesome but please don't forget about Real Talk cuz that is awesome as well.
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On October 26 2012 20:19 Hondelul wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2012 20:06 FreudianTrip wrote:Hey, I'm not trying to start any drama but I'd just like to fact check something Wolf said about the new OGN caster, Montecristo. Wolf said that DoA had told him he was Masters in Beta. This isn't true. I made a comment to Adebisi how it was a joke that some guy who definitely doesn't play Starcraft has been hired by OGN to cast it. Showing they don't really care about their English stream. I'd like to say again that I'm not trying to create drama. My issues are with the OGN stream in general rather than this specific guy. Wasn´t platinum the highest in beta? So saying "master" hits it quite well.
Pretty sure you're right.
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On October 26 2012 23:26 LuckoftheIrish wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2012 20:19 Hondelul wrote:On October 26 2012 20:06 FreudianTrip wrote:Hey, I'm not trying to start any drama but I'd just like to fact check something Wolf said about the new OGN caster, Montecristo. Wolf said that DoA had told him he was Masters in Beta. This isn't true. I made a comment to Adebisi how it was a joke that some guy who definitely doesn't play Starcraft has been hired by OGN to cast it. Showing they don't really care about their English stream. I'd like to say again that I'm not trying to create drama. My issues are with the OGN stream in general rather than this specific guy. Wasn´t platinum the highest in beta? So saying "master" hits it quite well. Pretty sure you're right.
Yes. Plat was highest division. And i think there even was copper league
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On October 26 2012 23:43 AcesAnoka wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2012 23:26 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On October 26 2012 20:19 Hondelul wrote:On October 26 2012 20:06 FreudianTrip wrote:Hey, I'm not trying to start any drama but I'd just like to fact check something Wolf said about the new OGN caster, Montecristo. Wolf said that DoA had told him he was Masters in Beta. This isn't true. I made a comment to Adebisi how it was a joke that some guy who definitely doesn't play Starcraft has been hired by OGN to cast it. Showing they don't really care about their English stream. I'd like to say again that I'm not trying to create drama. My issues are with the OGN stream in general rather than this specific guy. Wasn´t platinum the highest in beta? So saying "master" hits it quite well. Pretty sure you're right. Yes. Plat was highest division. And i think there even was copper league
Diamond was added in Beta Patch 13. I wonder if they would have claimed he was in grandmaster had he been in diamond...
(Plat and diamond were still only about ca. 80 percentile at the time, iirc)
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On October 26 2012 14:35 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2012 14:22 Animzor wrote:On October 26 2012 09:46 ChuCky.Ca wrote:The European entitlement is insane sometime  love you guys but comon. NA events are good time zone for NA people. EU events are good for EU people.... Yeah, because there's no american entitlement. haha read an NA event LR thread and an EU event LR thread. See which one has more complaining about the time the tournament airs.
NA viewers have to get up early in the morning for EU events, which is an inconvenience. However, EU viewers have to stay up until 2-3-4 AM, and we usually have to get up at 7-8 AM for work/school. That's not a mere inconvenience; for a lot of us this means we simply can't allow ourselves to watch the climax of the tournament.
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On October 26 2012 20:19 Hondelul wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2012 20:06 FreudianTrip wrote:Hey, I'm not trying to start any drama but I'd just like to fact check something Wolf said about the new OGN caster, Montecristo. Wolf said that DoA had told him he was Masters in Beta. This isn't true. I made a comment to Adebisi how it was a joke that some guy who definitely doesn't play Starcraft has been hired by OGN to cast it. Showing they don't really care about their English stream. I'd like to say again that I'm not trying to create drama. My issues are with the OGN stream in general rather than this specific guy. Wasn´t platinum the highest in beta? So saying "master" hits it quite well.
My dog could have gotten Diamond after Beta if he knew some very basic RTS "rules"... Seriously... Everything before season 3 is "old" RTS players raping new ones ^^
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On October 27 2012 00:36 Velr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2012 20:19 Hondelul wrote:On October 26 2012 20:06 FreudianTrip wrote:Hey, I'm not trying to start any drama but I'd just like to fact check something Wolf said about the new OGN caster, Montecristo. Wolf said that DoA had told him he was Masters in Beta. This isn't true. I made a comment to Adebisi how it was a joke that some guy who definitely doesn't play Starcraft has been hired by OGN to cast it. Showing they don't really care about their English stream. I'd like to say again that I'm not trying to create drama. My issues are with the OGN stream in general rather than this specific guy. Wasn´t platinum the highest in beta? So saying "master" hits it quite well. My dog could have gotten Diamond after Beta if he knew some very basic RTS "rules"... Seriously... Everything before season 3 is "old" RTS players raping new ones ^^
Your dog? I'd like to challenge that idea. Paws would simply not have the control fidelity necessary to play Starcraft.
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people 4 gated their way into the top league in beta. I mean, even after sc2 got released, alot of people were 4 gating their way into masters so i don't think beta ladder rankings matter.
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The show was hard to understand at the intro when you guys were overlapping the apollo rap clip and talking at the same time.
Put a real talk feed on stitcher!!
JP- unblock me on twitter plz <3
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Wolf saying it is cool to see such players as Heart being unpredictable, and adding to the game, really? I mean 1-1-1 everytime vs protoss isnt exactly unpredictable lol.
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On October 27 2012 00:53 sharky246 wrote:
people 4 gated their way into the top league in beta. I mean, even after sc2 got released, alot of people were 4 gating their way into masters so i don't think beta ladder rankings matter.
Agreed. You could make units and A-move them accross the map to win some games in beta. This was the era of 1 supply roaches and 40 second warpgate on maps like Steps of War.
Still, I will not judge a caster until I hear them cast something. I do not listen to them for their ability to win at Starcraft 2, but to make the game I am watching more entertaining.
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Just a reminder how bad people were at 1.0:
I 10 pooled all 5 times..
4 times i won on the spot, 1 time it took me 5 more minutes.
I was never good at SC2, i felt never good. But the general play right after release was just SO low...
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On October 27 2012 01:24 Plansix wrote:
Still, I will not judge a caster until I hear them cast something. I do not listen to them for their ability to win at Starcraft 2, but to make the game I am watching more entertaining.
I agree with this.
It's so much more important to have a good voice, be confident, eloquent and not be boring. Lack of these qualities is mostly the reason why many low profile commentators in the community remain low profile.
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On October 27 2012 01:24 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Wolf saying it is cool to see such players as Heart being unpredictable, and adding to the game, really? I mean 1-1-1 everytime vs protoss isnt exactly unpredictable lol.
Every time? So how many of his 3 TvPs in todays U&D were 1/1/1s?
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On October 27 2012 01:37 KingPaddy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2012 01:24 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Wolf saying it is cool to see such players as Heart being unpredictable, and adding to the game, really? I mean 1-1-1 everytime vs protoss isnt exactly unpredictable lol. Every time? So how many of his 3 TvPs in todays U&D were 1/1/1s?
Well, if we count all his official games, i would say probably a bit less than half.
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On October 27 2012 01:40 NightOfTheDead wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2012 01:37 KingPaddy wrote:On October 27 2012 01:24 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Wolf saying it is cool to see such players as Heart being unpredictable, and adding to the game, really? I mean 1-1-1 everytime vs protoss isnt exactly unpredictable lol. Every time? So how many of his 3 TvPs in todays U&D were 1/1/1s? Well, if we count all his official games, i would say probably a bit less than half.
exactly, less than half. the rest of the time he either does some other cheese build or greedy macro play. seems fairly unpredictable to me.
on the other hand, look at Taeja for example: greedy macro play pretty much every time. not that Taeja isn't awesome, but you pretty much know what to expect. with Heart, much less so.
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On October 27 2012 01:37 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2012 01:24 Plansix wrote:
Still, I will not judge a caster until I hear them cast something. I do not listen to them for their ability to win at Starcraft 2, but to make the game I am watching more entertaining. I agree with this. It's so much more important to have a good voice, be confident, eloquent and not be boring. Lack of these qualities is mostly the reason why many low profile commentators in the community remain low profile.
Its why Grubby is amazing and so awesome. The man can do it all. He always places well when he plays, speak well on camera and is well dressed at all times.
JP, we need Grubby on SotG to talk about the HotS beta. Everything is better with Grubby.
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You actually could have 4 gated into the top of the beta, IFF it had been discovered as a strategy, which it had not, so there are a lot of people here talking crap.
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That said, i agree with calls for grubby on state of the game if they can get him. More grubby means more win. The only reason not to i suppose is due to the number of protosses that have always been on SotG,
Then again, Grubby and ToD together might mean for some cool stories.
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