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ZeeMan
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia66 Posts
January 27 2012 02:55 GMT
#40541
Not a fan of the caller questions really. SotG should stick to what it does best: panel discussion. I like to hear the pros talk among themselves, ask insightful questions of one another, and make jokes, while JP leads the discussion. Caller questions take the dynamism out of the show and they're so hit and miss, awkward and repetitive.

Still enjoy the show overall though.
Bayyne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1967 Posts
January 27 2012 02:58 GMT
#40542
Loved the show tonight, the caller questions were especially good!
Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
suspiciousbear
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada112 Posts
January 27 2012 03:11 GMT
#40543
This was one of my favorite episodes. I watch SOTG to relax, to be entertained. Being entertained is great and all, it makes one happy and at ease, but this last episode was above that. It taught me a lot, it enlightened me. Whenever I learn something, about Starcraft, about life, about anything really, I feel better for it. Sean's strategy topic and the caller questions really taught me a lot. Thank you JP for the incredible show.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
January 27 2012 03:35 GMT
#40544
two weeks in a row now, the only two episodes I've missed since the beginning v_v. It's just not the same watching it afterwards on a vod
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
January 27 2012 03:44 GMT
#40545
How did I miss it, I'm so dumb :O

Looking forward to the VOD! Much <3
I think esports is pretty nice.
DieterEilts
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany283 Posts
January 27 2012 03:45 GMT
#40546
i really missed Geoff great show tho. but really... i missed geoff
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11089 Posts
January 27 2012 05:01 GMT
#40547
Woaah completely not used to the new time o.O!
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
January 27 2012 05:03 GMT
#40548
I just heard Artosis say Genius is best protoss in world right now on SotG...

Sorry Genius, you're cursed.
ReturnStroke
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States801 Posts
January 27 2012 05:04 GMT
#40549
I really don't like call-ins. If most people like them, then definitely keep them, but I have to turn off the stream. I just feel uncomfortable.
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
January 27 2012 05:06 GMT
#40550
If they're gonna have viewer questions, I'd rather it be through Twitter or something like that. No need for callers to take up so much time. And hearing some dude's voice doesn't add anything to it.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
Balfazar
Profile Joined November 2008
Australia483 Posts
January 27 2012 05:06 GMT
#40551
Echo those not liking the call in questions, I skip them and I used to listen to the mailbag.
Kingy604
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom54 Posts
January 27 2012 05:20 GMT
#40552
can anyone remember then name of the EU show that sombrero mentioned? I know it was mentioned twice but i just cannot remember
"Its all fun and games, until someone looses an eye... Then it is fun and games you can't see anymore."
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
January 27 2012 05:22 GMT
#40553
tt i missed it

new time throwing me off
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
January 27 2012 05:23 GMT
#40554
cant believe the hate on the call in questions, they were excellent this week.
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tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 05:25:01
January 27 2012 05:24 GMT
#40555
I don't really think SotG is the most suited to callins. I like the email and Google voice transcribed questions though. Anything that either gives the hosts the capacity to either pre-screen or ridicule the question is good for overall quality in my opinion.

edit: Not that all callins are bad, as the poster above me said most of the calls today were pretty good.
StUfF
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1437 Posts
January 27 2012 05:36 GMT
#40556
State of the Game has never been a source of news or reliable information. It has never tried to be and or claimed to be.
People listen to get these people's opinions in the position they are, if the guys aren't in touch with the map making community or the Korean Weekly then I don't really see that as a problem with the show. It's just the truth, these people in these positions have little to no reason to know about these things and they discussed the subject to their best knowledge.



suspiciousbear
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada112 Posts
January 27 2012 06:07 GMT
#40557
I can't believe that some people don't like the call-ins. I thought that they were the best part of the show this week. It somewhat teeters on the quality of the callers themselves, but as long as they have good questions, they create opportunities for discussion to occur on topics that JP might have missed/not thought about. As long as a caller asks good questions, the discussion among the cast is insightful and entertaining. The rote tournament discussion speaking in vague generalities in picking who will advance where, who will win what, etc, is what I dislike most about the show.
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
January 27 2012 08:03 GMT
#40558
I'm super dissapointed by one statement durring the show:

"we don't want strategy questions"

I read a little bit of the thread after last weeks show and there were a ton of people complaining about strategy call-ins, how they'd rather hear about the panelists discussion on what can only be described as "drama" subjects: Player Transfers, etc, etc. Now, as a panelist type show, I can absolutely see the value in some of these discussions and wouldn't want to see less of them, but I'm super disappointed in this community about how little they want to hear about the actual game.

Perhaps it's a pet peeve of mine, but it makes me so depressed when I log into TL and see an epic ass post about some strategy or player's play get very few views/replies and then next to it see the next generic "Is X hurting esports?" or other "drama" thread get easily 10x the amount of attention. I just feel like a large part of this community doesn't actually care about starcraft as a game, they just care about the drama around SC2 or they care about the caster more than what they're casting. I feel like the majority of the fans of SC2 would rather see a boring game between 2 platinum players commentated by Day9 than a brilliant game between some of the best players in the world commentated by some OK casters.

I'm not trying to downplay the role of casters in creating excitement of the game or hate on people who don't know a lot about the game, etc. I just hope some people reevaluate and start to really watch Starcraft for the games. Even if you don't play, I just don't understand why you'd rather hear an in-depth discussion about some player transferring teams than NonY, one of the best minds in Starcraft talk about some new protoss strategy or the subtlety of X protoss player's decision making in an important match.

The first caller today said something along the lines of "why would I ask some of the best minds in esports about strategy?" and my heart broke. Why would you NOT ask some of the best minds in esports about strategy? If all you want to hear is people talking about the drama around the game, there are people who just watch a lot of starcraft who are charismatic more qualified to speak on the subject more than most of the hosts.

Once again, I'm not saying that the questions about esports and stuff are bad. They are informative and often entertaining. For my part, though, most of the reason I listen to these types of things is that I want to hear some of the best minds in Starcraft talk about the game. I would SO much rather hear iNcontroL and NonY talk about their thoughts on some brilliant game by HerO than them talking about how some event admin didn't act completely professionally or some other random subject that actually doesn't have a damn thing to do with the game.

I just don't understand why people hate to hear about the game so much. If all you care about is the "drama", go pick up a copy of TMZ and you'll be in heaven. I loved all the discussion around the NaNiwa incident not too long ago because NaNi played brilliantly against one of my favorite zerg player's, nestea and won, then refused to play the "rematch" game. I cared about that topic because of how NaNi played so well and how the topic effected the ethics of Starcraft. Similarly I give a fuck about what Day9 has to say about things because he had some of the best builds and most brilliant hive tech play around. I care about IdrA drama because of his brilliant timings and mechanics; I care about NonY's slump because he had some of the best timing attacks and strategies around, etc.

I'm sorry for the rant, but it's so depressing sometimes to hear about how little people care about the actual game. I like the drama too, but I would hope some people reevaluate and start to appreciate the game at least as much as the drama around it.

Good show otherwise, can't wait for the next one
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
Synche
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1345 Posts
January 27 2012 08:08 GMT
#40559
I don't like call-ins and I'm saying so because I hope JP will listen.

Calls are filler for shows without ridiculous panels like this one.
LittleAtari
Profile Joined August 2010
Jordan1090 Posts
January 27 2012 08:09 GMT
#40560
On January 27 2012 14:20 Kingy604 wrote:
can anyone remember then name of the EU show that sombrero mentioned? I know it was mentioned twice but i just cannot remember

was that the guy's name or did you just call him a hat?
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