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Heraklitus
Profile Joined September 2010
United States553 Posts
January 18 2012 05:30 GMT
#39821
On January 18 2012 14:18 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 14:11 Mohdoo wrote:
On January 18 2012 14:07 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
On January 18 2012 09:11 Choboo wrote:
Maybe replace Day9 with Grubby I think most people would be happy with that if Grubby wants to come on the show

LOL, a little bias maybe towards Grubby? Considering the vast majority of the people that watch SOTG are americans that are not very familiar with Grubby and huge supporters of DAY9, an american, I dont think MOST people would be happy.

Anyone who played WC3 (A really big portion of the community) knows Grubby very well. He is our elder. A president of sorts.

one might even say he is our emperor



You go too far, sir!
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
January 18 2012 05:32 GMT
#39822
Why are you trying to replace day9? Grubby is cool and all, but Grubby wasnt at the WCGs or in the practice games with these guys that has madr their chemistry so great.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
January 18 2012 05:33 GMT
#39823
On January 18 2012 14:30 OldManZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 14:18 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On January 18 2012 14:11 Mohdoo wrote:
On January 18 2012 14:07 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
On January 18 2012 09:11 Choboo wrote:
Maybe replace Day9 with Grubby I think most people would be happy with that if Grubby wants to come on the show

LOL, a little bias maybe towards Grubby? Considering the vast majority of the people that watch SOTG are americans that are not very familiar with Grubby and huge supporters of DAY9, an american, I dont think MOST people would be happy.

Anyone who played WC3 (A really big portion of the community) knows Grubby very well. He is our elder. A president of sorts.

one might even say he is our emperor



You go too far, sir!

Our Warchief, more like it ...
LagT_T
Profile Joined March 2010
Argentina535 Posts
January 18 2012 05:48 GMT
#39824
Grubby / Steelseries "debacle"? lol, Grubby didn't deliver, sponsorship was dropped. Welcome to the real world. Replacing Day9 with grubby? Are you guys serious? He can be a guest host, but a pillar? Good god thank you TL
"The tactics... no. Amateurs discuss tactics, professional soldiers study logistics." - Tom Clancy, Red Storm Rising
Twistacles
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1327 Posts
January 18 2012 05:54 GMT
#39825
Grubby?

Could we get like, AN terran on the show?
State of the Protoss is kinda annoying, but I guess that doesnt matter since no one even talks about the game anymore
"If you don't give a shit which gum you buy, get stride" - Tyler
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
January 18 2012 06:08 GMT
#39826
On January 18 2012 14:54 Twistacles wrote:
Grubby?

Could we get like, AN terran on the show?
State of the Protoss is kinda annoying, but I guess that doesnt matter since no one even talks about the game anymore


go away lol

Get so tired of people bitching at SOTG for not having a terran host. We are not basing the show on races played by the hosts so stop crying
DethTitan
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada3 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 06:30:28
January 18 2012 06:27 GMT
#39827
so is it still the main 5 er what? dont feel like looking back 30 pages.
ps. ive really liked your stream lately incontrol.
<3 Day [ J ]
Hammer442
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia749 Posts
January 18 2012 12:20 GMT
#39828
On January 18 2012 15:27 DethTitan wrote:
so is it still the main 5 er what? dont feel like looking back 30 pages.
ps. ive really liked your stream lately incontrol.

Yes all of the hosts are staying.
CallousCarter
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom81 Posts
January 18 2012 13:40 GMT
#39829
On January 14 2012 03:59 Plansix wrote:
Nothing is stable because sponsors need to see ROI(return on investment). Esports has not has shining results in the past and sponsors are always looking for better places to spend their money. It is not enough that SotG gets 20 K viewers, those viewers also have to be willing to buy something from the sponsor. Several team managers have stated it is harder to keep a sponsor than to get one.
Which is why I don't understand why so many people in esports are clambering to follow mainstream physical sports in a sponsorship based business model.

I'm fine with a subscription model for SotG as long as they can guarantee regular content. The tournament schedule can get pretty hectic and demanding. All the hosts are casters or players, there's probably going to be times when it's going to be tough to make it on State of the game. If the hosts are willing to commit to putting SotG above attending tournaments or other areas of their work then fine go for it. I don't think they are though and i don't think they should be.

Why not just have a donations button and if you donate you get a special symbol next to your name in chat and get put in a lottery to play 4v4s with the hosts? I think that would be a better option considering the nature of the show and you wouldn't be building any expectations that may be difficult to meet.
Panthae
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada205 Posts
January 18 2012 13:50 GMT
#39830
On January 18 2012 22:40 CallousCarter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 03:59 Plansix wrote:
Nothing is stable because sponsors need to see ROI(return on investment). Esports has not has shining results in the past and sponsors are always looking for better places to spend their money. It is not enough that SotG gets 20 K viewers, those viewers also have to be willing to buy something from the sponsor. Several team managers have stated it is harder to keep a sponsor than to get one.
Which is why I don't understand why so many people in esports are clambering to follow mainstream physical sports in a sponsorship based business model.

I'm fine with a subscription model for SotG as long as they can guarantee regular content. The tournament schedule can get pretty hectic and demanding. All the hosts are casters or players, there's probably going to be times when it's going to be tough to make it on State of the game. If the hosts are willing to commit to putting SotG above attending tournaments or other areas of their work then fine go for it. I don't think they are though and i don't think they should be.

Why not just have a donations button and if you donate you get a special symbol next to your name in chat and get put in a lottery to play 4v4s with the hosts? I think that would be a better option considering the nature of the show and you wouldn't be building any expectations that may be difficult to meet.


I'm kindof on the same page, I just don't understand why SotG doesn't spam 5 commercials during the usual three breaks in the show instead of letting us watch the logo with strange music (no offence JP). That way they'd get some $$$ with the usual 30k viewers and then with the people watching later they can just put one at the beginning of the VoD. Simple cash, not too annoying for anyone and we're not asking for anything more or less!
For Aïur?
CallousCarter
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom81 Posts
January 18 2012 14:38 GMT
#39831
On January 18 2012 22:50 Panthae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 22:40 CallousCarter wrote:
On January 14 2012 03:59 Plansix wrote:
Nothing is stable because sponsors need to see ROI(return on investment). Esports has not has shining results in the past and sponsors are always looking for better places to spend their money. It is not enough that SotG gets 20 K viewers, those viewers also have to be willing to buy something from the sponsor. Several team managers have stated it is harder to keep a sponsor than to get one.
Which is why I don't understand why so many people in esports are clambering to follow mainstream physical sports in a sponsorship based business model.

I'm fine with a subscription model for SotG as long as they can guarantee regular content. The tournament schedule can get pretty hectic and demanding. All the hosts are casters or players, there's probably going to be times when it's going to be tough to make it on State of the game. If the hosts are willing to commit to putting SotG above attending tournaments or other areas of their work then fine go for it. I don't think they are though and i don't think they should be.

Why not just have a donations button and if you donate you get a special symbol next to your name in chat and get put in a lottery to play 4v4s with the hosts? I think that would be a better option considering the nature of the show and you wouldn't be building any expectations that may be difficult to meet.


I'm kindof on the same page, I just don't understand why SotG doesn't spam 5 commercials during the usual three breaks in the show instead of letting us watch the logo with strange music (no offence JP). That way they'd get some $$$ with the usual 30k viewers and then with the people watching later they can just put one at the beginning of the VoD. Simple cash, not too annoying for anyone and we're not asking for anything more or less!


Indeed, I don't know how much revenue they're looking to achieve but i think they should try other options before starting a subscription system.
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
January 18 2012 15:49 GMT
#39832
Cant wait for the show to be back
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
Argus92
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands93 Posts
January 18 2012 16:00 GMT
#39833
shut up guys, Grubby is a nice dude and has some very good insight in the game and e-sports. What are you guys whining about??
mark05
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada807 Posts
January 18 2012 16:04 GMT
#39834
cant wait for next episode gogo incontrol you tell em' !
yes, I'm MarkOhFive
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
January 18 2012 16:13 GMT
#39835
I don't have anything against Grubby, but replacing Day[9] at all would really deter me from watching. He's my favorite host on the show by far, as well as being my favorite ESPORTS personality.
Brood War Forever / NA's premiere Shadow Shaman player / Courier Collector / Bot Game Champion / Highly amateur Mystical Ninja Goemon Speedrunner
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
January 18 2012 16:21 GMT
#39836
On January 18 2012 14:54 Twistacles wrote:
Grubby?

Could we get like, AN terran on the show?
State of the Protoss is kinda annoying, but I guess that doesnt matter since no one even talks about the game anymore

Why the fuck is there an AN before Terran?

Grubby should come on just so Geoff can troll his accent, let's have an all Protoss 2.0 episode with WhiteRa, Grubby, Huk, Nani, and Hasu plus the hosts.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
January 18 2012 16:23 GMT
#39837
On January 18 2012 15:08 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 14:54 Twistacles wrote:
Grubby?

Could we get like, AN terran on the show?
State of the Protoss is kinda annoying, but I guess that doesnt matter since no one even talks about the game anymore


go away lol

Get so tired of people bitching at SOTG for not having a terran host. We are not basing the show on races played by the hosts so stop crying

Another white guy host? COME ON can we get a black girl at least? This is bullshit.
Moderator
how
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States538 Posts
January 18 2012 16:29 GMT
#39838
On January 19 2012 01:23 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 15:08 iNcontroL wrote:
On January 18 2012 14:54 Twistacles wrote:
Grubby?

Could we get like, AN terran on the show?
State of the Protoss is kinda annoying, but I guess that doesnt matter since no one even talks about the game anymore


go away lol

Get so tired of people bitching at SOTG for not having a terran host. We are not basing the show on races played by the hosts so stop crying

Another white guy host? COME ON can we get a black girl at least? This is bullshit.


What are you talking about?! iNcontroL's gf is black, and she is on there often enough.
http://twitter.com/howsc
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
January 18 2012 16:32 GMT
#39839
On January 19 2012 01:23 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 15:08 iNcontroL wrote:
On January 18 2012 14:54 Twistacles wrote:
Grubby?

Could we get like, AN terran on the show?
State of the Protoss is kinda annoying, but I guess that doesnt matter since no one even talks about the game anymore


go away lol

Get so tired of people bitching at SOTG for not having a terran host. We are not basing the show on races played by the hosts so stop crying

Another white guy host? COME ON can we get a black girl at least? This is bullshit.


what about asians :/
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
LeoLeo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden456 Posts
January 18 2012 16:32 GMT
#39840
On January 19 2012 01:23 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 15:08 iNcontroL wrote:
On January 18 2012 14:54 Twistacles wrote:
Grubby?

Could we get like, AN terran on the show?
State of the Protoss is kinda annoying, but I guess that doesnt matter since no one even talks about the game anymore


go away lol

Get so tired of people bitching at SOTG for not having a terran host. We are not basing the show on races played by the hosts so stop crying

Another white guy host? COME ON can we get a black girl at least? This is bullshit.


I as a transgender bisexual asian/eskimo feel like I need to be represented as well. This is preposterous, Sotg are really just hating on everybody, Oh yeah I live in Europe too and the only way I will be able to sleep at night is knowing that some poor soul has to be awake at ridiculous time every tuesday for me. Otherwise I will forever stop watching anything sotg related ever since not representing every minority is being awfully racist.

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/rant
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