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Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
October 20 2011 21:45 GMT
#34041
On October 20 2011 23:08 Titorelli wrote:
Wait did Huk say there were stats on GSL viewers by country? If so, where can I get them?

Anyone an idea?
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
October 20 2011 21:49 GMT
#34042
On October 21 2011 04:18 flowSthead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2011 01:54 Rabbitmaster wrote:
On October 21 2011 01:38 turdburgler wrote:
On October 20 2011 13:29 HigoSeco wrote:
Blizzcon isn't supossed to be the most competitive tournament. It's clear that blizzard's intention is for it to be some sort of World Cup (like FIFA's World Cup for football (soccer)) and everyone know that kind of tournament puts regional representation over competitivenes.



i dont see your point at all. in football atleast (in theory) you dont need everyone to play everyone in order to see who the best team is. theres no clear cut race structure or counter pick system between teams, the team that wins the world cup is 9/10 times the best team in the world.

at this stage in sc2 you could say the same thing, the koreans are so far ahead (at the very very top) that theres no question of counter picks to beat certain people who fell out at the regional stage.


Im no football expert by any means. But wouldn't most "high tier" football clubs (such as barcelona, manchester united etc etc) beat any World Cup team? Which is exactly his point. National representation over competetiveness.


It's not similar at all. It's not like Manchester United is made of entirely different roster than the British national team. Manchester United has players from a number of different countries.

The best analogy I could give would be if you had 3v3 teams made up by nationality and then 3v3 teams made up of SC teams like Dignitas and Liquid. It's just not comparable at all. Also, the World Cup is super prestigious. Whether or not you get better play from the club teams doesn't change the fact that winning the World Cup is probably the most prestigious thing for a team and its players.

Where does the idea that the World Cup is a second rate tournament come from?


The managers of the top tier clubs all think the Champions League is the premier tournament.
NPF
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1635 Posts
October 20 2011 21:50 GMT
#34043
On October 21 2011 06:45 Titorelli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 23:08 Titorelli wrote:
Wait did Huk say there were stats on GSL viewers by country? If so, where can I get them?

Anyone an idea?


Here is the link. http://www.complexitygaming.com/news/2969/#

And I found it in this thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=247700

Have a nice day.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 20 2011 21:55 GMT
#34044
Guys, where on the VOD can I see the dog in action?
I had a good night of sleep.
Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
October 20 2011 21:57 GMT
#34045
On October 21 2011 06:50 NPF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2011 06:45 Titorelli wrote:
On October 20 2011 23:08 Titorelli wrote:
Wait did Huk say there were stats on GSL viewers by country? If so, where can I get them?

Anyone an idea?


Here is the link. http://www.complexitygaming.com/news/2969/#

And I found it in this thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=247700

Have a nice day.

Thank you very much!
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
October 20 2011 21:58 GMT
#34046
On October 19 2011 14:30 XRaDiiX wrote:
wwhat are they talking about Hookers with Cocaine on their Backs wtf... Lol

Doing lines on 6 Hookers backs

Yeah wtf lololol... Is the for real hahahahahh!!
Jaedong.
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
October 20 2011 22:21 GMT
#34047
Incontrol talking about how naniwa should feel with blizzcon map pool (close pos) just killed me

then artosis remembered me that he played a terran in the first round...1-1-1 is fun
suejak
Profile Joined March 2010
Japan545 Posts
October 20 2011 22:30 GMT
#34048
Favourite part of this episode was when Geoff leaked that he was going to Korea and then he and HuK both made "oh shit" faces.
Are you human?
brum
Profile Joined January 2011
Hungary187 Posts
October 20 2011 22:46 GMT
#34049
So if (P)NaNiwa doesn't win blizzcon he will stop playing sc2?
TortoiseCa
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada104 Posts
October 20 2011 23:33 GMT
#34050
Does anyone else have trouble watching this? I've tried loading it up like 20 times in different browsers and I just get a black screen playing the audio of the commercial, then it just cuts into a black screen and doesn't play the video.

No wonder so many people download ad blocker.
89andy
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada192 Posts
October 20 2011 23:47 GMT
#34051
DOesn't work for me in both safari and chrome ...
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
October 20 2011 23:51 GMT
#34052
On October 21 2011 07:46 brum wrote:
So if (P)NaNiwa doesn't win blizzcon he will stop playing sc2?


He should follow the latest trends and shave his head.
Fireflies
Profile Joined January 2010
United Kingdom211 Posts
October 20 2011 23:54 GMT
#34053
On October 19 2011 14:54 Duravi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 14:39 windsupernova wrote:
On October 19 2011 14:37 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Did tyler just admit he goes on /v/?


/v/ is a pretty decent community man. Not GAF tier but its up there. But most gaming communities are kinda crappy though...

In a lot of ways /v/ is better than reddit (with a large amount of overlap, content is quickly shared between the two) and 4chan in general has many of the same problems as reddit does as well (see Anderson Cooper). The fact that for some reason it is okay to promote reddit but /v/ cannot be mentioned is a double standard based out out of ignorance.


The content on Reddit seems a lot tamer. You'd probably never get people being daring with their jokes because they don't want to risk losing karma or rep or whatever they call their popularity contest system so you won't run of risk the people complaining about going to the site and getting all offended by posts talking about players being put on sudoku watch. Or 5000x5000 images of Losira being spammed.

I mean, they can talk about Reddit and send people to a boring but safe site that won't get them angry e-mails from advertisers, or they can talk about /v/ and take the chance of sending people to a horrific trainwreck of relentless bashing/mockery of Incontrol, "strange" comments about MKP, statements of undying love for Tasteless/Artosis/Banjo and so on.

And yeah, why does JP get to show off with his fancy big screen?
One giant leap for mankind
ForeverAzerG
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom101 Posts
October 21 2011 00:08 GMT
#34054
i cant believe huk did cocaine after dreamhack wow...
arfyron
Profile Joined July 2011
518 Posts
October 21 2011 00:09 GMT
#34055
On October 21 2011 09:08 ForeverAzerG wrote:
i cant believe huk did cocaine after dreamhack wow...


I can't believe you are that thick.
ForeverAzerG
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom101 Posts
October 21 2011 00:13 GMT
#34056
On October 21 2011 09:09 arfyron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2011 09:08 ForeverAzerG wrote:
i cant believe huk did cocaine after dreamhack wow...


I can't believe you are that thick.

stfu idiot

User was temp banned for this post.
Funkydonky
Profile Joined April 2011
950 Posts
October 21 2011 00:26 GMT
#34057
On October 21 2011 04:18 flowSthead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2011 01:54 Rabbitmaster wrote:
On October 21 2011 01:38 turdburgler wrote:
On October 20 2011 13:29 HigoSeco wrote:
Blizzcon isn't supossed to be the most competitive tournament. It's clear that blizzard's intention is for it to be some sort of World Cup (like FIFA's World Cup for football (soccer)) and everyone know that kind of tournament puts regional representation over competitivenes.



i dont see your point at all. in football atleast (in theory) you dont need everyone to play everyone in order to see who the best team is. theres no clear cut race structure or counter pick system between teams, the team that wins the world cup is 9/10 times the best team in the world.

at this stage in sc2 you could say the same thing, the koreans are so far ahead (at the very very top) that theres no question of counter picks to beat certain people who fell out at the regional stage.


Im no football expert by any means. But wouldn't most "high tier" football clubs (such as barcelona, manchester united etc etc) beat any World Cup team? Which is exactly his point. National representation over competetiveness.


It's not similar at all. It's not like Manchester United is made of entirely different roster than the British national team. Manchester United has players from a number of different countries.

The best analogy I could give would be if you had 3v3 teams made up by nationality and then 3v3 teams made up of SC teams like Dignitas and Liquid. It's just not comparable at all. Also, the World Cup is super prestigious. Whether or not you get better play from the club teams doesn't change the fact that winning the World Cup is probably the most prestigious thing for a team and its players.

Where does the idea that the World Cup is a second rate tournament come from?

Champions league, English Premier league are all more competitive than World Cup.
Actually, UEFA EURO championship is always higher level than WC if you wanna talk about countries.
Anyway, blizzcon wasn't that good last year as well, it was Genius vs Loner irc, second tier korean won it, no big deal.
Favorite players: Stephano, Mana, Polt, Lucifron, Nerchio
flowSthead
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1065 Posts
October 21 2011 01:16 GMT
#34058
On October 21 2011 09:26 hrvoje07 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2011 04:18 flowSthead wrote:
On October 21 2011 01:54 Rabbitmaster wrote:
On October 21 2011 01:38 turdburgler wrote:
On October 20 2011 13:29 HigoSeco wrote:
Blizzcon isn't supossed to be the most competitive tournament. It's clear that blizzard's intention is for it to be some sort of World Cup (like FIFA's World Cup for football (soccer)) and everyone know that kind of tournament puts regional representation over competitivenes.



i dont see your point at all. in football atleast (in theory) you dont need everyone to play everyone in order to see who the best team is. theres no clear cut race structure or counter pick system between teams, the team that wins the world cup is 9/10 times the best team in the world.

at this stage in sc2 you could say the same thing, the koreans are so far ahead (at the very very top) that theres no question of counter picks to beat certain people who fell out at the regional stage.


Im no football expert by any means. But wouldn't most "high tier" football clubs (such as barcelona, manchester united etc etc) beat any World Cup team? Which is exactly his point. National representation over competetiveness.


It's not similar at all. It's not like Manchester United is made of entirely different roster than the British national team. Manchester United has players from a number of different countries.

The best analogy I could give would be if you had 3v3 teams made up by nationality and then 3v3 teams made up of SC teams like Dignitas and Liquid. It's just not comparable at all. Also, the World Cup is super prestigious. Whether or not you get better play from the club teams doesn't change the fact that winning the World Cup is probably the most prestigious thing for a team and its players.

Where does the idea that the World Cup is a second rate tournament come from?

Champions league, English Premier league are all more competitive than World Cup.
Actually, UEFA EURO championship is always higher level than WC if you wanna talk about countries.
Anyway, blizzcon wasn't that good last year as well, it was Genius vs Loner irc, second tier korean won it, no big deal.


That's not necessarily the case. Brazil isn't part of the EURO, and certain countries that qualify for the EURO do not manage to qualify for the World Cup. On what basis is the EURO necessarily higher than the World Cup?

As for the other leagues, again it is not really comparable to SC since the teams that make up the WC have players in them from different Clubs (or vice versa). It can be just as competitive, it just depends on how much the teams have trained together. But since the national teams do have matches every year, not just during the WC, they do get some training.

After all, a great football team is not just about having one amazing player, but about how well the team works together. Hence, why Brazil failed to win it the last two WC (failed to even make top 4). If the team works great together, then they can be just as competitive as a club team.
"You can be creative but I will crush it under the iron fist of my conservative play." - Liquid`Tyler █ MVP ■ MC ■ Boxer ■ Grubby █
TortoiseCa
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada104 Posts
October 21 2011 01:29 GMT
#34059
On October 21 2011 06:58 sGs.Kal_rA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 14:30 XRaDiiX wrote:
wwhat are they talking about Hookers with Cocaine on their Backs wtf... Lol

Doing lines on 6 Hookers backs

Yeah wtf lololol... Is the for real hahahahahh!!


I think that was Huk trying to redeem his previous story of haypro, which he thought sounded cool but in actuality made haypro look like a huge douche.
StarCraft64
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States354 Posts
October 21 2011 03:01 GMT
#34060
On October 21 2011 06:58 sGs.Kal_rA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 14:30 XRaDiiX wrote:
wwhat are they talking about Hookers with Cocaine on their Backs wtf... Lol

Doing lines on 6 Hookers backs

Yeah wtf lololol... Is the for real hahahahahh!!

Meh, that's not too impressive. In the BW days Savior and Flash were banging 7 gram rocks on the regular. The bonjwas make Huk, Haypro, and all of them look like droopy-eyed armless children.
Elaborate euphemisms may conceal your intent to kill, but behind any use of power over another the ultimate assumption remains: "I feed on your energy."
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