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On August 24 2010 14:08 Ouga wrote:Rules for this are plain stupid, more like non-existent. You can't say "dont do it EVERY time" or "show replaypack". What, pack of 6000 games? If they aren't even automatically saved, you can't expect guy to save his folder 600 times. Oops, two missing, DQ'd! It should've been from the beginning, but defining strict rules (or disbanding old unclear ones) could still be done. What's definition of "every"? Can he cheese 2999, 2800, 2200 or 500 of his wins? What's cheese? Some say there's no such thing as cheese, suppose they have an edge on the competition 
I agree :\
The rules aren't clear enough, and saving 6000 replays is almost harder than getting all those wins.
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so many complaints from people who aren't even going to try this...
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A measy $2000 for an achievement that will probably take longer than 6 months to get if you grind your ass off?
Moreover, the rules haven't even been clearly defined, so who in their right mind would even attempt to do this?
Whoever you are, I feel sorry for you.
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On August 24 2010 14:20 gozima wrote:
A measy $2000 for an achievement that will probably take longer than 6 months to get if you grind your ass off?
Moreover, the rules haven't even been clearly defined, so who in their right mind would even attempt to do this?
Whoever you are, I feel sorry for you.
I don't really see why anyone is acting this way. Obviously nobody normal is gonna go "oh my god fayth is paying 2k I should go do this." It's more like someone is going to play this much anyway and is like "hey fayth is gonna pay me 2k if I do something I was gonna do anyway, yay!"
If I were in middle/high school rather than grad school I could definitely do this challenge without it impacting my life any more negatively than video games impacted my life then anyway.
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lol how did i miss this thread
How in the hell is someone gonna get at least 3000 wins in 6 months?
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Why are people being fucking idiots?
If Fayth somehow worked together with Blizzard and decided to FORCE every Starcraft 2 player in the world to participate in this, then i could probably see why you're crying your eyes out because of the rules and what not. But here's the thing, he's not forcing anyone to do anything, you are free to participate, you are free to not give a shit, but coming in here to complain about something you don't even have to do? I don't complain about Nascar racing sucking ass because all you do is turn left, i simply decide to not participate.
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On August 24 2010 06:05 Nihilnovi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2010 14:07 Mist7 wrote:
look again at the OP... he says clearly that cheesing is against the rules According to the OP, "every" is nice and big in caps making it emphazised that cheesing all 3000 games is now allowed, you are allowed to cheese 2999 games out of the 3000 required.
You are, but if you do, he's just going to add more rules.
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a lot easier to get a job at mcdonalds and make 5x as much
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Its funny people are complaining about this, but yeah it would be hard to do.
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On August 24 2010 14:40 s_86 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2010 06:05 Nihilnovi wrote:On August 23 2010 14:07 Mist7 wrote:
look again at the OP... he says clearly that cheesing is against the rules According to the OP, "every" is nice and big in caps making it emphazised that cheesing all 3000 games is now allowed, you are allowed to cheese 2999 games out of the 3000 required. You are, but if you do, he's just going to add more rules.
Pretty much. Even if you do it legit, he'll just add something like NEW RULE: Your race is not allowed.
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if ppl are so skeptical about this then dont do it, he gains nothing from this except seeing someone perform a difficult feat. this is no different from when your buddy says something like 'hey i will give you 20 bucks to eat this super hot chili pepper'
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he just seems to see if it's doable by someone, and prolly making the motivation happen as well with this. If someone got the time/motivation to do it, this is a great way to do it, and I dont think he is just doing this to /laugh at someone when they've succed. Even Jinro vouch for him so ^^
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On August 24 2010 15:27 Stratos.FEAR wrote:
if ppl are so skeptical about this then dont do it, he gains nothing from this except seeing someone perform a difficult feat. this is no different from when your buddy says something like 'hey i will give you 20 bucks to eat this super hot chili pepper'
I am not skeptical of the $2000. I am skeptical of the unclear rules, as no one wants to go through the effort but not get the money in the end.
This is no different from when your buddy says something like "hey i will give you 20 bucks to eat a super hot chili pepper,"and then goes on to say, "no, the one you just ate wasn't hot enough."
I have no doubt in Fayth's commitment, but the rules need to be more clear.
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On August 24 2010 15:30 Karliath wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2010 15:27 Stratos.FEAR wrote:
if ppl are so skeptical about this then dont do it, he gains nothing from this except seeing someone perform a difficult feat. this is no different from when your buddy says something like 'hey i will give you 20 bucks to eat this super hot chili pepper' I am not skeptical of the $2000. I am skeptical of the unclear rules, as no one wants to go through the effort but not get the money in the end. This is no different from when your buddy says something like "hey i will give you 20 bucks to eat a super hot chili pepper,"and then goes on to say, "no, the one you just ate wasn't hot enough." I have no doubt in Fayth's commitment, but the rules need to be more clear.
He'll probably pay up as long as you provide a decent percentage of the replays and don't proxy gate in all of them.
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I'm getting slightly annoyed by people who go "ell oh ell, you can get that much more by working at mcdonalds, who's stupid enough to do this..".
There are actually other countries in the world where $2000 is quite a hefty sum of money. Alot of people will not make $2000 on a regular job with the same time spent, not even close.
Besides, the achievement is not AS tough as some people make it out to be. There have been times when i've played 10-12 hours of poker every day for many months, and I do know alot of people in the poker world who does that and alot more even. Grinding this achievement would be a walk in the park in comparison, if i'd need that money (which alot of people do).
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I'm not all that skeptical about 2k$ either. I'm not skeptical about integrity, just the rules being unclear. It's more fun to follow the competition if you can call it that, when everyone know what's allowed and what's not. Personally I don't see how anything could lean towards DQ here. There's no way monitoring how many games have ended in 1min and in the end, does it really matter? There probably are few people partially aiming for this, and they use the optimal strategy to end the games in shortest time possible. It's not clear what they can't do, so I feel everything is fine except botting and account sharing.
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I feel bad for the person who actually does go for this and completes it, because it's pretty obvious he has no intention of paying the winner whatsoever...
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'Grinding this achievement would be a walk in the park in comparison, if i'd need that money (which alot of people do).'
If you need 2k that bad to need to play 1k games of sc there's prob other easier ways to make 2k.
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For those not in USA or western Europe this is a shitload of money. People work 40 hours a week for $25 in some countries you know. And if the rules are not clear don't participate. As far as I see it is like this: don't cheat and you will not get cheated.
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+ Show Spoiler +On July 29 2010 10:50 Fayth wrote:
Mod edit
Fayth is legit, thread is legit, no need to ask for bans - he can afford this ;p
- Jinro
/End mod edit
I'll ship 2000$ to the first player who gets the Solo Zen Master achievement on US or Europe server within 6 months, no koreans allowed obv
1000 terran wins
1000 protoss wins
1000 zerg wins
1000 random wins (it appears the race you get is counted as a win for the race so you're all better off starting with random)
(that's $0.66 per win)
Good luck! =)
Probably going to take a long while so bump this thread/message me when it's done
Edit: added time frame so it would put pressure on those who wanna participate, also account sharing is prohibited obv
So by january 28th at 11:59 EST if nobody has made it, well I keep da monies 8)
NEW RULE: Must provide replay pack, cheesing EVERY game is not allowed, so upon reviewing replays if someone was trying to free win every single game then he's DQ'ed
LOL, seriously! hahaha, I laughed my ass off. :D
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