EPTPart 1:
Part 2:
SangHo to SC2!
I sat down with Hwanni to interview SangHo on his future plans. When asked if he will be playing SC2, he responds "of course"! Hear all of SangHo's plans for the future.
EnjoY~
SangHo to SC2!
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Artosis
United States2140 Posts
Part 1: Part 2: SangHo to SC2! I sat down with Hwanni to interview SangHo on his future plans. When asked if he will be playing SC2, he responds "of course"! Hear all of SangHo's plans for the future. EnjoY~ | ||
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neobowman
Canada3324 Posts
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Kyo Yuy
United States1286 Posts
On June 27 2010 02:00 neobowman wrote: Holy ***** A progamer transferring! I think? It's because of the progamer scandal. Sangho was one of the progamers who was accused of taking part in the betting scandal, but he was actually innocent. During the investigation though, rumors included him and he believed that if he tried to deny the accusations it would make him look more guilty. The criticism from the netizens and accusations of him throwing matches caused him to become really depressed, and he ended up retiring from eStro's BW team. He did give an interview though where he asked people to be careful before making accusations, as they can accuse innocent people and really mess with their careers. | ||
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Nexic
United States729 Posts
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Best of luck to him. What I saw from Tester, I hope Sangho can duplicate and show us more. | ||
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cujo2k
Canada1044 Posts
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Mios
United States686 Posts
love it | ||
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MangoTango
United States3670 Posts
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QueueQueue
Canada1000 Posts
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TelecoM
United States10672 Posts
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Bash
Finland1533 Posts
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Jettster
United States73 Posts
Good interview. | ||
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Athos
United States2484 Posts
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Kerotan
England2109 Posts
It was so funny when he talked about nony and idra. | ||
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
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Whiplash
United States2928 Posts
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
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Hyp-The-Feared
United States108 Posts
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ShivaN
United States933 Posts
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smileyyy
Germany1816 Posts
Hwanni <3! :> | ||
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kajeus
United States679 Posts
Thanks, guys, for the great interview! | ||
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metaldragon
United States251 Posts
also...GO Hwanni! | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
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thopol
Japan4560 Posts
SangHo's going to win an OS2L. It feels great to be able to predict that. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On June 27 2010 02:27 LunarDestiny wrote: There goes Idra's time of being the best SC2 progamer. When was that ever the case??? !Either way it's going to be awesome seeing these guys move over! Should be interesting! | ||
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Scorch
Austria3371 Posts
Progamers moving over to SC2 can't hurt I guess. | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
Thanks for the interview Artosis, appreciate it. | ||
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SichuanPanda
Canada1542 Posts
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On June 27 2010 02:43 iCCup.Diamond wrote: When was that ever the case??? !Either way it's going to be awesome seeing these guys move over! Should be interesting! Well... I believe he was the only one..? | ||
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barth
Ireland1272 Posts
On June 27 2010 02:44 Scorch wrote: His English is so sweet Progamers moving over to SC2 can't hurt I guess. I know some people it will hurt. Great interview. Thanks SanhHo, Artosis and of course Hwanni! | ||
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gillon
Sweden1578 Posts
EDIT: Also, gotta thank Hwanni for his contribution! | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On June 27 2010 02:49 FabledIntegral wrote: Well... I believe he was the only one..? What? Do you mean guys with Korean progamer licenses? In that case what about Tester. I thought you were talking about all SC2 progamers. Becuase KESPA's license doesn't really hold much water in SCII in my eyes. Either way I was just playing around lol! | ||
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SichuanPanda
Canada1542 Posts
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DemiSe
883 Posts
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frozenclaw
Canada409 Posts
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
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Sputty
Canada161 Posts
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On June 27 2010 02:51 iCCup.Diamond wrote: What? Do you mean guys with Korean progamer licenses? In that case what about Tester. I thought you were talking about all SC2 progamers. Becuase KESPA's license doesn't really hold much water in SCII in my eyes. Either way I was just playing around lol! Kinda, I guess it wouldn't be huge, but I mean sponsored by a progaming team. CJ is still sponsoring him. Tester is retired. That's how I saw it. | ||
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Deleted User 31060
3788 Posts
never had any reason to dislike this guy in any respect. Hope he does well in SC2 | ||
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Garnet
Vietnam9018 Posts
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Alou
United States3748 Posts
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ziteNiA
Sweden73 Posts
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
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YourMom
Romania565 Posts
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jamesr12
United States1549 Posts
On June 27 2010 03:25 YourMom wrote: "Greg is a not some kind of a genius or a talented player". Will laugh when someone throws that at artosis when he makes another idra and me > all arguement | ||
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Smu
Serbia164 Posts
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CheAse
Canada919 Posts
keep up the good work Artosis | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On June 27 2010 03:28 jamesr12 wrote: Will laugh when someone throws that at artosis when he makes another idra and me > all arguement being talented =/= being good | ||
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
On June 27 2010 03:50 Shiragaku wrote: There goes IdrA's and White-ra's domination in StarCraft II TesTer??...They never had domination..lol | ||
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TieN.nS)
United States2131 Posts
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Smu
Serbia164 Posts
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kajeus
United States679 Posts
On June 27 2010 03:56 TieN.nS) wrote: Oh ok, the guy that only ever won one event that you saw??...You're so right..lol Tester is Korean. He wasn't invited to any other tournaments. | ||
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
On June 27 2010 03:56 TieN.nS) wrote: Oh ok, the guy that only ever won one event that you saw??...You're so right..lol I counted 2 things that I saw, GosuCoaching #2 we won without a lose and TLI Altitude.. Regardless he is a far better playing then White-Ra and IdrA, much respect to them both but they aren't close to TesTer. As well as him not being invited because he is Korean.. Regardless he is better. <3<3Hwanni!!!! | ||
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Anfere
Canada231 Posts
Thanks artosis for bringing us so much korean coverage and interviews. | ||
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TBO
Germany1350 Posts
There haven't been enough games to really determine who is best yet. | ||
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Piski
Finland3461 Posts
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Anfere
Canada231 Posts
Kinda, I guess it wouldn't be huge, but I mean sponsored by a progaming team. CJ is still sponsoring him. Tester is retired. That's how I saw it. Tester is sponsored by oGs. They already played several games at Gom TV vs Prime. oGs have also Cool in their roster, so as far as the SC2 scene is concerned, Tester is member of the best sc2 pro team around for the moment. | ||
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DreamOen
Spain1400 Posts
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Nal_rAwr
United States2611 Posts
hyvaa is the only one left out of the shin trio now | ||
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KnightOfNi
United States1508 Posts
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Lighioana
Norway466 Posts
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Alou
United States3748 Posts
Let's talk about how awesome it is that SangHo is joining the SC2 scene | ||
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SC2Phoenix
Canada2814 Posts
Hwanni Hwaighting! | ||
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Shizuru~
Malaysia1676 Posts
 he does look way much better than he used to be in ESTRO, really glad to hear that he recovered from that incident... | ||
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Geo.Rion
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Woyn
United Kingdom1628 Posts
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Toads
Canada1795 Posts
<3 Artosis <3 Hwanni Thanks again | ||
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Piski
Finland3461 Posts
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SichuanPanda
Canada1542 Posts
I wouldn't say that at all, you can be good and not be talented at all. Being good means you do what is considered the norm in whatever field may be, in this case SC2. Talented on the other hand means you are naturally good without training/practice, and consistently come up with innovative play. That said IdrA is a good player at SC2, but in terms of 'talent' that's really up in the air because sure he follow mechanics well and does successfully in SC2 tournaments but lets be honest with ourselves here has he added anything really NEW to the SC2 game, or SC in general? Not so much. | ||
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Syloth
United Kingdom9 Posts
On June 27 2010 04:42 SichuanPanda wrote: I wouldn't say that at all, you can be good and not be talented at all. Being good means you do what is considered the norm in whatever field may be, in this case SC2. Talented on the other hand means you are naturally good without training/practice, and consistently come up with innovative play. That said IdrA is a good player at SC2, but in terms of 'talent' that's really up in the air because sure he follow mechanics well and does successfully in SC2 tournaments but lets be honest with ourselves here has he added anything really NEW to the SC2 game, or SC in general? Not so much. But, I don't think that talent would be considered as being innovative though, talent would be being good at something with less practice then others. | ||
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
Thanks Artosis and Hwanni . | ||
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SichuanPanda
Canada1542 Posts
On June 27 2010 04:45 Syloth wrote: But, I don't think that talent would be considered as being innovative though, talent would be being good at something with less practice then others. Well perhaps not, but in any case just because you might not classify a player such as IdrA as 'talented' he's certainly skilled, regardless of how much training it has taken him to get where he is in SC2 currently. | ||
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Anfere
Canada231 Posts
But, I don't think that talent would be considered as being innovative though, talent would be being good at something with less practice then others. Following you'r definition of ''talented'' idra being the guy who trains more than anybody else would be pretty untalented. I believe idra is pretty talented as he shows great stuff, and you need some talent so that your hardwork pays off. But he isn't one of those genious players as SangHo said, as there is some people who are just so good crazy good by nature and their playstyle just shows that. | ||
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iAmSoniK
Canada246 Posts
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Disastorm
United States922 Posts
On June 27 2010 02:21 Jettster wrote: I wonder how much of a skill gap will be present after the progamers make the transfer. It seems that the gap will not be as large or even as close to as large as in bw because of how much easier it is to macro in sc2 (I hope this is not the case though). Good interview. On June 27 2010 02:24 Athos wrote: After seeing tester dominate I can only wonder what Starcraft 2 is going to be like when more and more of these god-like progamers transfer over. This sounds really cool. The skill gap wont be as large but it wont have anything to do with sc2 being an easier game or not. It will be because SC2 is a new game. People have to realize that the bw progamers are only god-like at Brood War. They aren't god like at other games, and well sc2 is another game. However, its obvious that due to similarities, they won't be noob at sc2 and of course they will probably quickly gain skill in sc2 and progress through the ranks pretty quickly. | ||
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Rah
United States973 Posts
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Sandrosuperstar
Sweden525 Posts
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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
On June 27 2010 04:46 Megalisk wrote: SangHo looking like a baller with his collar popped :>. Anyways I'm glad he was able to bounce back after all the crap that happened to him, I;m glad he hasn't lost faith in ESPORTS and is returning. Thanks Artosis and Hwanni .You obviously don't remember how much of a baller GARIMTO looked in his interview. "4 ZIP-UP HOODIES! WHERE ARE YOUR POPPED COLLARS NOW?" Anyways it was a very fun and interesting interview, finally someone remembered that there are actually foreigners giving their best and all. Also to all posters agreeing with Sangho on IdrA being untalented, bear in mind that IdrA has grown a lot since estro and that the language barrier is always hard to break. | ||
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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
On June 27 2010 05:17 r33k wrote: You obviously don't remember how much of a baller GARIMTO looked in his interview. "4 ZIP-UP HOODIES! WHERE ARE YOUR POPPED COLLARS NOW?" Anyways it was a very fun and interesting interview, finally someone remembered that there are actually foreigners giving their best and all. Also to all posters agreeing with Sangho on IdrA being untalented, bear in mind that IdrA has grown a lot since estro and that the language barrier is always hard to break. It was 3...that's right I remember. And I wonder how NonY 'communicated' with the estro players, since he didn't know korean, maybe he just spoke in broken english so they would understand? IDK | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
SANGHO HWAITING!! | ||
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Cow
Canada1104 Posts
Great interview! | ||
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ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
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Gaxton
Sweden2328 Posts
Great to see another highlevel SC1 progamer switching over, and fun to hear his thoughts on Nony. | ||
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Tekin
2711 Posts
. Great interview. | ||
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Pebble
Germany326 Posts
I like him. :D | ||
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Vei
United States2845 Posts
nice cam/mic quality, this is so0o0o much better. | ||
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snpnx
Germany454 Posts
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
On June 27 2010 06:29 Pebble wrote: Who is that Hwanni-guy that accompanies Artosis in every video? I like him. :DHe is the manager of the Estro progaming team, and happens to speak English, so he can link us with the Korean world of progaming :D. | ||
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Pebble
Germany326 Posts
He is the manager of the Estro progaming team, and happens to speak English, so he can link us with the Korean world of progaming :D. How awesome is he? How baller Thanks Hwanni! | ||
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unit
United States2621 Posts
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IPS.Mardow.
Germany713 Posts
IdrA's was/is good because of his endless practice, NoNy was/is good because of his huge talent. We saw that in TSL imo. While IdrA practiced 24/7, NoNy had a long break (afaik?), came back and won TSL. With more talent you need less practice to be good imo^^. | ||
NonY
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Belegorm
United States330 Posts
On June 27 2010 07:10 IPS.Mardow. wrote: Ya, I kinda agree with SangHo. IdrA's was/is good because of his endless practice, NoNy was/is good because of his huge talent. We saw that in TSL imo. While IdrA practiced 24/7, NoNy had a long break (afaik?), came back and won TSL. With more talent you need less practice to be good imo^^. Yet IdrA got further into the OSL prelims than ever before with the least amount of practice... I would say he's got talent. Maybe not to the level of a Flash or Jaedong, but still pretty dang good. | ||
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Wi)nD
Canada719 Posts
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SoL[9]
Portugal1370 Posts
People dont notice that because Idra dont have the same "strong" mind that Nony he is so confident about him and game plan and he is 100% solid on each game. Idra fall to pressure to much ez thats is biggest problem imho. Idra have, the hardworking, the passion and talented but he cant control the feelings and relax. Or if you want other reason: Nony is toss, Idra was terran Great job Artosis keep up!! Ty Hwanni | ||
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mgj
191 Posts
Many new videos from you in such a short time. Perfect with the beta being down, thanks! Edit: Funny to hear the idra/nony comments. Exactly the impression I had, but my impression was ofcourse just an impression. Now I know there might be something to it, interesting. Damn you for getting married nony, would have loved to see you as an a-team progamer. Also Hwanni: Dont worry about it. The videos with you are in are amazing either way, you and artosis provide inside coverage like no others. | ||
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Piski
Finland3461 Posts
So people won't get any ideas I like them both! They are both great and talented players in my eyes Hope we see more of them both in future tournaments | ||
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Shatter
United States1401 Posts
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Ethic
Canada439 Posts
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jamesr12
United States1549 Posts
On June 27 2010 08:35 Platypus wrote: It's awesome to know Hwanni browses TLnet and reads the foreigner fans :D. Just if we could get him to post, that would be so cool | ||
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Arco
United States2090 Posts
On June 27 2010 08:37 jamesr12 wrote: Just if we could get him to post, that would be so cool Hwanni was the one who posted the thread about the larvae bug that made 6 pool with like 10-12 lings Also, Sangho looks like a baller, pop that collar. | ||
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Chronopolis
Canada1484 Posts
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bigjmachine
United States314 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
P.S. Hwanni you are made of awesome. Hat goes off to you sir. | ||
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Khalleb
Canada1909 Posts
SangHo FIGHTING~~~ | ||
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DonKey_
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
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HaN-
France1919 Posts
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omninmo
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
On June 27 2010 09:44 DonKey_ wrote: Hwanni is a such a nice guy to take some of his time out for interviews like these and i really hope he knows how much we foreigners appreciate what he does, especially when he gets others within the Korean e-sports scene to come on like this. Oh he does. He used to post on TL actually where he answered user questions regarding eSTRO or Korean eSports in general. Hwanni is an awesome guy, and I actually got to talk to him a little during ESWC 2008 where he was with eSTRO's CS 1.6 team (now WeMadeFOX). No offense to Artosis, but stop calling him your sidekick. | ||
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lyk503
United States261 Posts
I laughed so hard. | ||
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Issor
United States870 Posts
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Onlinejaguar
Australia2823 Posts
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koppik
United States676 Posts
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heishe
Germany2284 Posts
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SoleSteeler
Canada5420 Posts
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
I'm gonna be a geek and draw a comparision to naruto here, IdrA is rock lee, ridiculously powerful without any luck/natural talent helping him along, whereas NonY is Naruto, an extremely hard worker with talent and power already built into him :p | ||
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Patches
United States43 Posts
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Artosis
United States2140 Posts
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYWhtG3c_K0 Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOiGdIi6HdE | ||
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vlaric
United States412 Posts
On June 27 2010 11:19 lyk503 wrote: Hwanni: "ret, the fat one." (said in Korean.) I laughed so hard. loooool great interviews Artosis, keep them up! really glad to hear the good news and to see that SangHo is doing great. also, love the 480p. can't wait for the new mic to ship in! | ||
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
).Thanks Artosis for making this happen, I will surely try to get SangHo invited to a tourney in the future Also big <3 to Hwanni for being our portal to Korean eSports, always so polite and funny, even when white guys come in and claim him to be "the Robin to their Batman" Keep those vids coming! | ||
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Baarn
United States2702 Posts
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imperator-xy
Germany1366 Posts
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
On June 27 2010 17:15 heishe wrote: koreans are SO overrated. this time around, we'll 100% have an even distribution of nationalities among the worlds best. in SC kroeans were so good because there was no real pro scene in the rest of the world while koreans were basically born with a copy of starcraft in their hands. . in WC3 it was different and the player who dominates the most in the world is grubby, a dutch player. LOL KOREANS ARE OVERRATED I'd say the best sc2 player of the beta was Tester, and he was still one of the worst progamers around for broodwar. Seriously, when more broodwar pros start switching over (although most will stay for now), people who aren't familiar with the broodwar proscene are gonna be like, why do the Koreans rape so hard at this game? Yes, its a new game and foreigners will do much better versus koreans than they did in broodwar, where there was only one in a pro team at the end, but the average skill level already seems to be higher on the Asia server, and that skill gap is definitely not going to shrink. | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5552 Posts
On June 27 2010 17:15 heishe wrote: koreans are SO overrated. this time around, we'll 100% have an even distribution of nationalities among the worlds best. in SC kroeans were so good because there was no real pro scene in the rest of the world while koreans were basically born with a copy of starcraft in their hands. . in WC3 it was different and the player who dominates the most in the world is grubby, a dutch player. Moon has been equally dominant throughout his career and Korea had by far the most top WC3 players. The only reason why Koreans weren't as dominant in WC3 is because the game didn't catch on in Korea compared to BW. There were few proteams and they didn't last long. Also WC3 is not as mechanically demanding, so long hours of practice don't pay off as much. We'll see how things will turn out with SC2. I predict that Koreans will still be by far the most dominant nation. They have the best infrastructure and the largest talent pool. | ||
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
On June 27 2010 19:33 maybenexttime wrote: Moon has been equally dominant throughout his career and Korea had by far the most top WC3 players. The only reason why Koreans weren't as dominant in WC3 is because the game didn't catch on in Korea compared to BW. There were few proteams and they didn't last long. Also WC3 is not as mechanically demanding, so long hours of practice don't pay off as much. We'll see how things will turn out with SC2. I predict that Koreans will still be by far the most dominant nation. They have the best infrastructure and the largest talent pool. WC3 is as mechanically demanding as you make it. Moon was the 5th race because he was mechanically very solid in addition to being as good a strategist as other top players. When artosis watched moons FPview he said its like watching bisu play wc3 | ||
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towerranger
Austria134 Posts
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Zurles
United Kingdom1659 Posts
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maybenexttime
Poland5552 Posts
On June 27 2010 19:59 TheAntZ wrote: WC3 is as mechanically demanding as you make it. Moon was the 5th race because he was mechanically very solid in addition to being as good a strategist as other top players. When artosis watched moons FPview he said its like watching bisu play wc3 I didn't say it is not mechanically demanding. It's just certainly not as demanding as BW. Mostly because in BW you're always doing something, whereas in WC3 there are plenty of downtimes and high APM is rarely ever needed outside of battles, and there's not that much multi-tasking compared to BW (although still plenty of it compared to pretty much any other RTS game). | ||
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Gunman_csz
United Arab Emirates492 Posts
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
Great and insightfull interview as allways. Iam happy that SangHo is on his feet again and iam looking forward to see him play sc2! | ||
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Tabbris
Bangladesh2839 Posts
Also maybe idra pratices too much . Too much practice hurts your play. You need a clear body/mind | ||
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warshop
Canada490 Posts
Seriously, Hwanni reading the comments and responding back, that's awesome +1 | ||
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Artosis
United States2140 Posts
SangHo I think could be ridiculously good at SC2, similar level to Tester imo! I got the mic now, and am getting better at camera settings, so new videos should be better quality. | ||
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
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FarbrorAbavna
Sweden4856 Posts
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domane
Canada1606 Posts
Thanks for the interview, Artosis and Hwanni. Also, congratulations on getting a new video camera. | ||
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Denizen[9]
United States649 Posts
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hacpee
United States752 Posts
On June 28 2010 10:14 Artosis wrote: to be fair, Tester made the top 16 of OSL last year. he's been around a long time, and had a pretty successful career, especially considering most of it was on eSTRO during the dark years where they couldn't buy a win. SangHo I think could be ridiculously good at SC2, similar level to Tester imo! I got the mic now, and am getting better at camera settings, so new videos should be better quality. Perhaps that means therock has a chance of being great? He's been in the top 16 many times. I forsee much 2base carrier in sc2. | ||
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United States1728 Posts
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