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KnightOfNi
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1508 Posts
June 26 2010 19:23 GMT
#61
:D
RIP eSTRO :(
Lighioana
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway466 Posts
June 26 2010 19:24 GMT
#62
Thanks for the effort Artosis!
And forgive me nothing for I truly meant it all
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
June 26 2010 19:25 GMT
#63
What's with all this debate? It's impossible to definitively say Player A is better than Player B. It's all opinions.

Let's talk about how awesome it is that SangHo is joining the SC2 scene
Life is Good.
SC2Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2814 Posts
June 26 2010 19:26 GMT
#64
Great interview and I guess Nony left quiet an impression there :D
Hwanni Hwaighting!
Who the fuck has a family of fucking trees? This song is so god damn stupid. Fuck you song, fuck you and your stupid trees. -itmeJP
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
June 26 2010 19:29 GMT
#65
foreginers days of glory in SC2 is running short?


he does look way much better than he used to be in ESTRO, really glad to hear that he recovered from that incident...
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
June 26 2010 19:31 GMT
#66
another protoss ace of estro joining SC2 it seems
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Woyn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United Kingdom1628 Posts
June 26 2010 19:37 GMT
#67
Hwanni is such a pleasant guy, seems so genuine and enthusiastic .
Toads
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1795 Posts
June 26 2010 19:41 GMT
#68
great content and very ahppy progammer still have some interest in starcraft 2

<3 Artosis
<3 Hwanni

Thanks again
(。◕ ω ◕。) Beer Time !!!! (。◕ ω ◕。)
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
June 26 2010 19:41 GMT
#69
forgot to thank artosis for this, great stuff!
SichuanPanda
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1542 Posts
June 26 2010 19:42 GMT
#70
On June 27 2010 03:46 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2010 03:28 jamesr12 wrote:
On June 27 2010 03:25 YourMom wrote:
"Greg is a not some kind of a genius or a talented player".


Will laugh when someone throws that at artosis when he makes another idra and me > all arguement

being talented =/= being good


I wouldn't say that at all, you can be good and not be talented at all. Being good means you do what is considered the norm in whatever field may be, in this case SC2. Talented on the other hand means you are naturally good without training/practice, and consistently come up with innovative play. That said IdrA is a good player at SC2, but in terms of 'talent' that's really up in the air because sure he follow mechanics well and does successfully in SC2 tournaments but lets be honest with ourselves here has he added anything really NEW to the SC2 game, or SC in general? Not so much.
i-bonjwa
Syloth
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom9 Posts
June 26 2010 19:45 GMT
#71
On June 27 2010 04:42 SichuanPanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2010 03:46 TheYango wrote:
On June 27 2010 03:28 jamesr12 wrote:
On June 27 2010 03:25 YourMom wrote:
"Greg is a not some kind of a genius or a talented player".


Will laugh when someone throws that at artosis when he makes another idra and me > all arguement

being talented =/= being good


I wouldn't say that at all, you can be good and not be talented at all. Being good means you do what is considered the norm in whatever field may be, in this case SC2. Talented on the other hand means you are naturally good without training/practice, and consistently come up with innovative play. That said IdrA is a good player at SC2, but in terms of 'talent' that's really up in the air because sure he follow mechanics well and does successfully in SC2 tournaments but lets be honest with ourselves here has he added anything really NEW to the SC2 game, or SC in general? Not so much.


But, I don't think that talent would be considered as being innovative though, talent would be being good at something with less practice then others.
Talent does not equal to success
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
June 26 2010 19:46 GMT
#72
SangHo looking like a baller with his collar popped :>. Anyways I'm glad he was able to bounce back after all the crap that happened to him, I;m glad he hasn't lost faith in ESPORTS and is returning.

Thanks Artosis and Hwanni .
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
SichuanPanda
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1542 Posts
June 26 2010 19:53 GMT
#73
On June 27 2010 04:45 Syloth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2010 04:42 SichuanPanda wrote:
On June 27 2010 03:46 TheYango wrote:
On June 27 2010 03:28 jamesr12 wrote:
On June 27 2010 03:25 YourMom wrote:
"Greg is a not some kind of a genius or a talented player".


Will laugh when someone throws that at artosis when he makes another idra and me > all arguement

being talented =/= being good


I wouldn't say that at all, you can be good and not be talented at all. Being good means you do what is considered the norm in whatever field may be, in this case SC2. Talented on the other hand means you are naturally good without training/practice, and consistently come up with innovative play. That said IdrA is a good player at SC2, but in terms of 'talent' that's really up in the air because sure he follow mechanics well and does successfully in SC2 tournaments but lets be honest with ourselves here has he added anything really NEW to the SC2 game, or SC in general? Not so much.


But, I don't think that talent would be considered as being innovative though, talent would be being good at something with less practice then others.


Well perhaps not, but in any case just because you might not classify a player such as IdrA as 'talented' he's certainly skilled, regardless of how much training it has taken him to get where he is in SC2 currently.
i-bonjwa
Anfere
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada231 Posts
June 26 2010 19:54 GMT
#74
But, I don't think that talent would be considered as being innovative though, talent would be being good at something with less practice then others.


Following you'r definition of ''talented'' idra being the guy who trains more than anybody else would be pretty untalented.

I believe idra is pretty talented as he shows great stuff, and you need some talent so that your hardwork pays off. But he isn't one of those genious players as SangHo said, as there is some people who are just so good crazy good by nature and their playstyle just shows that.
Immortal or no Immortal, that is the question ! Someone give me a hamlet skull !
iAmSoniK
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada246 Posts
June 26 2010 19:54 GMT
#75
Good job with all these interviews Artosis and thanks Hwanni for translating ^_^
Disastorm
Profile Joined January 2008
United States922 Posts
June 26 2010 19:56 GMT
#76
On June 27 2010 02:21 Jettster wrote:
I wonder how much of a skill gap will be present after the progamers make the transfer. It seems that the gap will not be as large or even as close to as large as in bw because of how much easier it is to macro in sc2 (I hope this is not the case though).

Good interview.

On June 27 2010 02:24 Athos wrote:
After seeing tester dominate I can only wonder what Starcraft 2 is going to be like when more and more of these god-like progamers transfer over. This sounds really cool.


The skill gap wont be as large but it wont have anything to do with sc2 being an easier game or not. It will be because SC2 is a new game. People have to realize that the bw progamers are only god-like at Brood War. They aren't god like at other games, and well sc2 is another game. However, its obvious that due to similarities, they won't be noob at sc2 and of course they will probably quickly gain skill in sc2 and progress through the ranks pretty quickly.
"Don't worry so much man. There won't be any more zergs left to QQ. Lots of QQ about TvT is incoming though I bet." - Vrok 9/21/10
Rah
Profile Joined February 2010
United States973 Posts
June 26 2010 19:56 GMT
#77
Hwanni you're the man, don't even worry about the quietness in the last vid. My 2 cents though, you guys should be setting up in quieter settings like where you shot this Sangho interview for future vids. Also if you could edit in subtitles and cut out the voice translating, these might seem more professional for the impatient SC2 fans, but that will rob Hwanni of some facetime of course.
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Sandrosuperstar
Profile Joined November 2009
Sweden525 Posts
June 26 2010 20:02 GMT
#78
Hwanni you're AWESOME!!! :D
I'm homo for Lomo, gay for GGplay, but at the end of the day I put my dong in Lee Jaedong
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
June 26 2010 20:17 GMT
#79
On June 27 2010 04:46 Megalisk wrote:
SangHo looking like a baller with his collar popped :>. Anyways I'm glad he was able to bounce back after all the crap that happened to him, I;m glad he hasn't lost faith in ESPORTS and is returning.

Thanks Artosis and Hwanni .

You obviously don't remember how much of a baller GARIMTO looked in his interview. "4 ZIP-UP HOODIES! WHERE ARE YOUR POPPED COLLARS NOW?"

Anyways it was a very fun and interesting interview, finally someone remembered that there are actually foreigners giving their best and all. Also to all posters agreeing with Sangho on IdrA being untalented, bear in mind that IdrA has grown a lot since estro and that the language barrier is always hard to break.
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
June 26 2010 20:22 GMT
#80
Even Hwanni is telling you to film in less noisy places rofl
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