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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44393 Posts
February 11 2010 03:31 GMT
#281
Poll is missing options. Not bothered and nothing. Am I the only person who actually likes starcraft 1?
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
HiOT
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Sweden1000 Posts
February 11 2010 03:31 GMT
#282
On February 11 2010 12:29 lol.Froste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2010 12:07 Jonoman92 wrote:
On February 11 2010 12:00 lol.Froste wrote:
i shall be scouring the warez sites for a beta crack the day it is released o.O


will those exist/work? I would love to play the beta omg. I wonder if they'll ever invite anyway who signed up with the e-mail opt in.


o yeah
the day beta opens some blessed soul is going to just crack his client and then upload to some site. from there it will spread like wildfire!!
hopefully

probably only for single player tho, but hey! thats enough for me until the real thing is out ;D


Singleplayer beta? I don't think so fella.
Officially the founder of Team Property (:
pzea469
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1520 Posts
February 11 2010 03:32 GMT
#283
yes
Kill the Deathball
Spawkuring
Profile Joined July 2008
United States755 Posts
February 11 2010 03:33 GMT
#284
On February 11 2010 12:31 KwarK wrote:
Poll is missing options. Not bothered and nothing. Am I the only person who actually likes starcraft 1?


Liking SC2 doesn't mean you have to hate SC1.
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
February 11 2010 03:39 GMT
#285
On February 11 2010 12:31 KwarK wrote:
Poll is missing options. Not bothered and nothing. Am I the only person who actually likes starcraft 1?


just because we're hyped about SC2 doesn't mean we don't like SC1? failed attempt in pretending to be cool mate...

Tsagacity
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2124 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-11 03:40:42
February 11 2010 03:39 GMT
#286
What's SC1?
On February 11 2010 12:29 lol.Froste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2010 12:07 Jonoman92 wrote:
On February 11 2010 12:00 lol.Froste wrote:
i shall be scouring the warez sites for a beta crack the day it is released o.O


will those exist/work? I would love to play the beta omg. I wonder if they'll ever invite anyway who signed up with the e-mail opt in.


o yeah
the day beta opens some blessed soul is going to just crack his client and then upload to some site. from there it will spread like wildfire!!
hopefully

probably only for single player tho, but hey! thats enough for me until the real thing is out ;D
The beta is multiplayer only. Single player beta would have campaign spoilers
"Everyone worse than me at video games is a noob. Everyone better than me doesn't have a life."
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44393 Posts
February 11 2010 03:43 GMT
#287
On February 11 2010 12:33 Spawkuring wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2010 12:31 KwarK wrote:
Poll is missing options. Not bothered and nothing. Am I the only person who actually likes starcraft 1?


Liking SC2 doesn't mean you have to hate SC1.

It's a different game. It's made by Blizzard so it'll most likely be a good game but it's similar in name only. The game itself shares nothing more with Starcraft than with any other RTS. Names of stuff might be the same but the function and roles of shit won't be and that's the actual game part.
By all means look forward to a new game but this is a starcraft 1 forum, not a general RTS forum. I don't get all the hype.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
HiOT
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Sweden1000 Posts
February 11 2010 03:43 GMT
#288
On February 11 2010 12:39 Shizuru~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2010 12:31 KwarK wrote:
Poll is missing options. Not bothered and nothing. Am I the only person who actually likes starcraft 1?


just because we're hyped about SC2 doesn't mean we don't like SC1? failed attempt in pretending to be cool mate...



We need a Bo5 IRL drunken fighting!
Officially the founder of Team Property (:
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
February 11 2010 03:48 GMT
#289
please release system requirements blizz
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Spawkuring
Profile Joined July 2008
United States755 Posts
February 11 2010 03:48 GMT
#290
On February 11 2010 12:43 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2010 12:33 Spawkuring wrote:
On February 11 2010 12:31 KwarK wrote:
Poll is missing options. Not bothered and nothing. Am I the only person who actually likes starcraft 1?


Liking SC2 doesn't mean you have to hate SC1.

It's a different game. It's made by Blizzard so it'll most likely be a good game but it's similar in name only. The game itself shares nothing more with Starcraft than with any other RTS. Names of stuff might be the same but the function and roles of shit won't be and that's the actual game part.
By all means look forward to a new game but this is a starcraft 1 forum, not a general RTS forum. I don't get all the hype.


What on earth....?

Your argument makes no sense. Of course SC2 shares plenty in common with SC1. Many of the same units with similar roles, same universe, same game pacing, same style of gameplay. SC2 feels very much like SC1, and that has been verified many times over by people who have played it. I mean seriously, are you honestly telling me that a game like DoW2 is just as similar to SC1 as SC2 is? People are excited because SC2 is a sequel that intends to have many of the same competitive greatness that SC1 has, and it's developed by one of the best companies in the industry.

And while this is a SC1 forum, it has a SC2 section that we're all posting in right now, so there's plenty to be hyped about.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44393 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-11 03:55:48
February 11 2010 03:54 GMT
#291
On February 11 2010 12:48 Spawkuring wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2010 12:43 KwarK wrote:
On February 11 2010 12:33 Spawkuring wrote:
On February 11 2010 12:31 KwarK wrote:
Poll is missing options. Not bothered and nothing. Am I the only person who actually likes starcraft 1?


Liking SC2 doesn't mean you have to hate SC1.

It's a different game. It's made by Blizzard so it'll most likely be a good game but it's similar in name only. The game itself shares nothing more with Starcraft than with any other RTS. Names of stuff might be the same but the function and roles of shit won't be and that's the actual game part.
By all means look forward to a new game but this is a starcraft 1 forum, not a general RTS forum. I don't get all the hype.


What on earth....?

Your argument makes no sense. Of course SC2 shares plenty in common with SC1. Many of the same units with similar roles, same universe, same game pacing, same style of gameplay. SC2 feels very much like SC1, and that has been verified many times over by people who have played it. I mean seriously, are you honestly telling me that a game like DoW2 is just as similar to SC1 as SC2 is? People are excited because SC2 is a sequel that intends to have many of the same competitive greatness that SC1 has, and it's developed by one of the best companies in the industry.

And while this is a SC1 forum, it has a SC2 section that we're all posting in right now, so there's plenty to be hyped about.

A zealot isn't just the word zealot. It's a role in PvT, killing tanks and sucking vs vultures. It's a role in PvP, sucking early game but good vs dragoons and great reinforcing. It's a role in PvZ, dying to everything. You can call a sc2 zealot a zealot but that does not make it the same unit. The unit is defined by its role in the gameplay, not by its name. If you change the gameplay, which they are, then it doesn't matter how many things you give the same name, it's a different game. You can talk about similar units if you like but they're not exclusive to sc1, ultimately it's just another RTS.
It'll most likely be a good RTS but I play bw because I like bw. A shiny new RTS with better graphics and a story I'm unfamiliar with holds very little interest to me. Even if it has a unit with the same name as a unit in bw.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
February 11 2010 03:54 GMT
#292
its just a pointless argument because regardless of how great SC2 is gonna be, the BW purists will discredit it til they all die of old age. They dont want a new game, they wont welcome a new game, even though it will be a much better game.

I am betting 90% of the people who will be saying BW is better than SC2, won't of even tried the game once, just like what they say about Warcraft 3.
Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
lol.Froste
Profile Joined January 2010
United States112 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-11 03:57:00
February 11 2010 03:56 GMT
#293
On February 11 2010 12:39 Tsagacity wrote:
What's SC1?
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2010 12:29 lol.Froste wrote:
On February 11 2010 12:07 Jonoman92 wrote:
On February 11 2010 12:00 lol.Froste wrote:
i shall be scouring the warez sites for a beta crack the day it is released o.O


will those exist/work? I would love to play the beta omg. I wonder if they'll ever invite anyway who signed up with the e-mail opt in.


o yeah
the day beta opens some blessed soul is going to just crack his client and then upload to some site. from there it will spread like wildfire!!
hopefully

probably only for single player tho, but hey! thats enough for me until the real thing is out ;D
The beta is multiplayer only. Single player beta would have campaign spoilers


=( sadface
ill have to make due with streams
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
February 11 2010 03:57 GMT
#294
On February 11 2010 12:43 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2010 12:33 Spawkuring wrote:
On February 11 2010 12:31 KwarK wrote:
Poll is missing options. Not bothered and nothing. Am I the only person who actually likes starcraft 1?


Liking SC2 doesn't mean you have to hate SC1.

but this is a starcraft 1 forum, not a general RTS forum. I don't get all the hype.


actually, you're in the Starcraft 2 forums right now
Cpt.beefy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Ireland799 Posts
February 11 2010 03:59 GMT
#295
*sob* finallyy.... ...


Our Beloved Geoff "inControl" Robinson.
Tsagacity
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2124 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-11 04:02:08
February 11 2010 04:01 GMT
#296
On February 11 2010 12:54 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2010 12:48 Spawkuring wrote:
On February 11 2010 12:43 KwarK wrote:
On February 11 2010 12:33 Spawkuring wrote:
On February 11 2010 12:31 KwarK wrote:
Poll is missing options. Not bothered and nothing. Am I the only person who actually likes starcraft 1?


Liking SC2 doesn't mean you have to hate SC1.

It's a different game. It's made by Blizzard so it'll most likely be a good game but it's similar in name only. The game itself shares nothing more with Starcraft than with any other RTS. Names of stuff might be the same but the function and roles of shit won't be and that's the actual game part.
By all means look forward to a new game but this is a starcraft 1 forum, not a general RTS forum. I don't get all the hype.


What on earth....?

Your argument makes no sense. Of course SC2 shares plenty in common with SC1. Many of the same units with similar roles, same universe, same game pacing, same style of gameplay. SC2 feels very much like SC1, and that has been verified many times over by people who have played it. I mean seriously, are you honestly telling me that a game like DoW2 is just as similar to SC1 as SC2 is? People are excited because SC2 is a sequel that intends to have many of the same competitive greatness that SC1 has, and it's developed by one of the best companies in the industry.

And while this is a SC1 forum, it has a SC2 section that we're all posting in right now, so there's plenty to be hyped about.

A zealot isn't just the word zealot. It's a role in PvT, killing tanks and sucking vs vultures. It's a role in PvP, sucking early game but good vs dragoons and great reinforcing. It's a role in PvZ, dying to everything. You can call a sc2 zealot a zealot but that does not make it the same unit. The unit is defined by its role in the gameplay, not by its name. If you change the gameplay, which they are, then it doesn't matter how many things you give the same name, it's a different game. You can talk about similar units if you like but they're not exclusive to sc1, ultimately it's just another RTS.
It'll most likely be a good RTS but I play bw because I like bw. A shiny new RTS with better graphics and a story I'm unfamiliar with holds very little interest to me. Even if it has a unit with the same name as a unit in bw.
So if Blizzard replaced a key unit from each race (Zealot/Zergling/Siege tank maybe?) thus changing roles for every matchup, you would say the end result isn't any closer to SC:BW than any other RTS?

Honestly this is the first time I've seen this viewpoint. What I see most of the time is people complaining about SC2 because "It's more like SC 1.5"
"Everyone worse than me at video games is a noob. Everyone better than me doesn't have a life."
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44393 Posts
February 11 2010 04:02 GMT
#297
On February 11 2010 12:54 Skyze wrote:
its just a pointless argument because regardless of how great SC2 is gonna be, the BW purists will discredit it til they all die of old age. They dont want a new game, they wont welcome a new game, even though it will be a much better game.

I am betting 90% of the people who will be saying BW is better than SC2, won't of even tried the game once, just like what they say about Warcraft 3.

I have played sc2 actually, although quite a while ago. But yeah, ultimately I'm just not looking for a new game. I'm happy with what I have. All I was trying to say is that it's surprising how much everyone is hyped for this when what they have is pretty decent. If you don't have a good RTS and one is being made then "OMG AWESOME" but if you already have a really good RTS then switching to SC2 will just be more of the same computer gaming fun.

The way I see it, there should be more hype regarding the start of a new icc season. When icc stops I stop playing bw (and therefore RTS games) so the start of a new season is a great increase in my gaming enjoyment. Switching from one game to another is a proportionately far smaller increase. The hype only makes sense if you're genuinely discontented with bw.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Spawkuring
Profile Joined July 2008
United States755 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-11 04:08:31
February 11 2010 04:02 GMT
#298
On February 11 2010 12:54 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2010 12:48 Spawkuring wrote:
On February 11 2010 12:43 KwarK wrote:
On February 11 2010 12:33 Spawkuring wrote:
On February 11 2010 12:31 KwarK wrote:
Poll is missing options. Not bothered and nothing. Am I the only person who actually likes starcraft 1?


Liking SC2 doesn't mean you have to hate SC1.

It's a different game. It's made by Blizzard so it'll most likely be a good game but it's similar in name only. The game itself shares nothing more with Starcraft than with any other RTS. Names of stuff might be the same but the function and roles of shit won't be and that's the actual game part.
By all means look forward to a new game but this is a starcraft 1 forum, not a general RTS forum. I don't get all the hype.


What on earth....?

Your argument makes no sense. Of course SC2 shares plenty in common with SC1. Many of the same units with similar roles, same universe, same game pacing, same style of gameplay. SC2 feels very much like SC1, and that has been verified many times over by people who have played it. I mean seriously, are you honestly telling me that a game like DoW2 is just as similar to SC1 as SC2 is? People are excited because SC2 is a sequel that intends to have many of the same competitive greatness that SC1 has, and it's developed by one of the best companies in the industry.

And while this is a SC1 forum, it has a SC2 section that we're all posting in right now, so there's plenty to be hyped about.

A zealot isn't just the word zealot. It's a role in PvT, killing tanks and sucking vs vultures. It's a role in PvP, sucking early game but good vs dragoons and great reinforcing. It's a role in PvZ, dying to everything. You can call a sc2 zealot a zealot but that does not make it the same unit. The unit is defined by its role in the gameplay, not by its name. If you change the gameplay, which they are, then it doesn't matter how many things you give the same name, it's a different game. You can talk about similar units if you like but they're not exclusive to sc1, ultimately it's just another RTS.
It'll most likely be a good RTS but I play bw because I like bw. A shiny new RTS with better graphics and a story I'm unfamiliar with holds very little interest to me. Even if it has a unit with the same name as a unit in bw.


Going by your logic, patches count as different games too considering that they change stats and roles of units. I think your criteria of "different game" is ridiculously strict.


On February 11 2010 12:31 KwarK wrote:
I have played sc2 actually, although quite a while ago. But yeah, ultimately I'm just not looking for a new game. I'm happy with what I have. All I was trying to say is that it's surprising how much everyone is hyped for this when what they have is pretty decent. If you don't have a good RTS and one is being made then "OMG AWESOME" but if you already have a really good RTS then switching to SC2 will just be more of the same computer gaming fun.

The way I see it, there should be more hype regarding the start of a new icc season. When icc stops I stop playing bw (and therefore RTS games) so the start of a new season is a great increase in my gaming enjoyment. Switching from one game to another is a proportionately far smaller increase. The hype only makes sense if you're genuinely discontented with bw.


Not everyone who likes SC1 likes it purely for the pro-scene. People also like it because they like the story, or they like the universe, or they like all the units and the style surrounding them. In fact I'd say that the vase majority of SC1 players, including pros, have at least some love for the game universe itself and don't just purely for the competitive scene. Whether you acknowledge it or not, SC2 WILL be seen under the same light as SC1, and that's why many want SC2 to succeed. One of Blizzard's main goals is the spreading of e-sports, and they're going to push it through SC2, so it's better for everybody in the long run if the game succeeds.
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
February 11 2010 04:04 GMT
#299
On February 11 2010 12:57 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2010 12:43 KwarK wrote:
On February 11 2010 12:33 Spawkuring wrote:
On February 11 2010 12:31 KwarK wrote:
Poll is missing options. Not bothered and nothing. Am I the only person who actually likes starcraft 1?


Liking SC2 doesn't mean you have to hate SC1.

but this is a starcraft 1 forum, not a general RTS forum. I don't get all the hype.


actually, you're in the Starcraft 2 forums right now


obviously he's trolling, and we took the bait...

SC2 represents not only a new game on the SC franchise but also the oppurtunity to expand E-Sports and bring in waves of new generations of players into the franchise, i'm excited about the possibilities of this game brings forward...
dolo
Profile Joined December 2009
United States14 Posts
February 11 2010 04:05 GMT
#300
beta, time to go celebrate and have sex. cant w8 to see husky and day 9 cast this shit, and freaking OVERSKY omfg, OMFG betaaaaaaaaa, pz out !
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