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TheKRoc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States74 Posts
May 11 2011 02:38 GMT
#18161
If anyone ever gets a chance, go back and watch episode one. Sean is such a winner.

:D
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
May 11 2011 02:40 GMT
#18162
Get some upgrades, get some bases, smash some faces. -Day[9]
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
key0
Profile Joined February 2011
United States22 Posts
May 11 2011 02:41 GMT
#18163
lol day9 tries to prove a point but the terran didnt deny scouting at all and he went for 1rax expand no walloff. nice day9
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
May 11 2011 02:47 GMT
#18164
On May 11 2011 11:41 key0 wrote:
lol day9 tries to prove a point but the terran didnt deny scouting at all and he went for 1rax expand no walloff. nice day9



so? if he wall offs you can expect 1 base plays, and take responses biased on that. You can also scout a little bit latter to see if the expasion is there. What hes trying to explain is that you don't need to SEE everything to actually responde in the right way.

eLiE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1039 Posts
May 11 2011 02:49 GMT
#18165
On May 10 2011 01:55 Shindo wrote:
Are the team mono-battles that took place after ep. #301 going to be posted? At the end it sounded like he was going to record them but they're not up so I wasn't sure...


I'd love to see them too! Day, if you didn't record the last one, can you record the upcoming ones? We'd really appreciate it; it's always exciting to see you play!
How's the weather down there?
Bunnypanda
Profile Joined April 2011
United States103 Posts
May 11 2011 02:49 GMT
#18166
On May 11 2011 11:41 key0 wrote:
lol day9 tries to prove a point but the terran didnt deny scouting at all and he went for 1rax expand no walloff. nice day9


*Swiiiiiissssssssh*

(That is the point going over your head)
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14104 Posts
May 11 2011 02:56 GMT
#18167
When he talks about a Pro terran hes only been talking about Idra and how he's such a baller at zerging. I find this a very odd point with his argument with idra on the last sotg.

I like the episodes about zerg and how they teach me to ruin them.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
May 11 2011 02:59 GMT
#18168
On May 11 2011 11:47 Kznn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 11:41 key0 wrote:
lol day9 tries to prove a point but the terran didnt deny scouting at all and he went for 1rax expand no walloff. nice day9



so? if he wall offs you can expect 1 base plays, and take responses biased on that. You can also scout a little bit latter to see if the expasion is there. What hes trying to explain is that you don't need to SEE everything to actually responde in the right way.



"so? if he wall offs you can expect 1 base plays" -> what? no this is 100% wrong

" You can also scout a little bit latter to see if the expansion is there" -> this is past the time where most all-in builds hit, and terrans can build their expo in their base, behind that wall

"What hes trying to explain is that you don't need to SEE everything to actually responsed in the right way." -> MOST of the time. Not all of the time, sometimes you really have to assume based on experience.
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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
May 11 2011 04:46 GMT
#18169
I'm pretty sure day9 knows perfectly well idra is one of the best build readers out there
Wodger
Profile Joined October 2008
Scotland380 Posts
May 11 2011 05:37 GMT
#18170
5/10 Day[9] Daily #0303 Starcraft 2 Zerg Scouting Without Scouting! (Blip.tv)
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Lemonayd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States745 Posts
May 11 2011 05:39 GMT
#18171
I took a nap at 9 and woke up at 11; I just missed the daily :/
lofung
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong298 Posts
May 11 2011 06:30 GMT
#18172
day9, i am off with sc2 as i have got boring with that. i just saw the episode title on facebook and your arguement with idra. now I love you. <3
How do you counter 13 carriers? Well first of all you gave me brain cancer. -Tasteless
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
May 11 2011 06:49 GMT
#18173
I think a lot of people are considering this video as "the argument against IdrA", when it really should be "information gained from scouting and timings". IdrA, as evidenced by his commentating in the EG Masters Cup, is amazing at predicting what builds are coming out. During the live casts people in chat joke that he essentially spoils the match because he's so dead on all the time. You're really doing yourself a disservice to not check out some of his recent commentaries with djWheat in the EG Masters Cup.

Also, this isn't meant as an attack at Sean in any way. Hell, even half way through the daily he specifically referenced IdrA saying to take him out of the equation since he already knows these techniques. Sean then continued by saying the video was aimed at helping other players understand how to gain information from "non-triggers" (essentially timings based on previous scouting).
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GMonster
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
686 Posts
May 11 2011 07:21 GMT
#18174
@day9

Day9 Happy (you did a dailey on his play which i just watched the VoD of) so i have no idea if you already know. Happy is a old warcraft 3 Pro / Semi-Legend who was / is on team MYM
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Deckkie
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1595 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-11 08:04:52
May 11 2011 08:04 GMT
#18175
I have been doing that 2 factory rax for ages.
Now everybody will think I got it from Day9 :p
Thank you Day.
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nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
May 11 2011 08:29 GMT
#18176
I feel the purpose of this daily was not to counter Idra but the people who take Idra's words and twist them to the extreems.
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corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
May 11 2011 08:37 GMT
#18177
On May 11 2011 17:29 nihlon wrote:
I feel the purpose of this daily was not to counter Idra but the people who take Idra's words and twist them to the extreems.


I think the purpose of this daily was to teach Zerg players how to scout given limited information, and it would be nice if Sean could just help people out without portions of the community ascribing an ulterior motive to his actions. It's possible that his decision to focus on Zerg scouting was influenced by his discussion with IdrA, but it's not like either of them seemed genuinely upset after their discussion, and I think it's a bit of a stretch of the imagination to assume that Sean is using the Daily as a passive-aggressive medium to argue against IdrA or his followers.
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iNViCiOUZ
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany364 Posts
May 11 2011 15:33 GMT
#18178
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Drascus
Profile Joined October 2010
United States100 Posts
May 11 2011 15:40 GMT
#18179
On May 11 2011 17:37 corpuscle wrote:
I think the purpose of this daily was to teach Zerg players how to scout given limited information, and it would be nice if Sean could just help people out without portions of the community ascribing an ulterior motive to his actions. It's possible that his decision to focus on Zerg scouting was influenced by his discussion with IdrA, but it's not like either of them seemed genuinely upset after their discussion, and I think it's a bit of a stretch of the imagination to assume that Sean is using the Daily as a passive-aggressive medium to argue against IdrA or his followers.


What I thought was hilarious is this was billed as a way to help zerg players. "See, LaLush did this stuff, and now he knows what's coming!"

Yeah, and during his attempt to make sure he was safe against everything, he lost the game. Great! Zerg players already know how to lose the game by preparing against too many things at a time. In fact, that was one of the major points of Idra's argument, that if you try to prepare for everything, you die to whichever specific thing is happening, which is again, why scouting is needed.

Those extra spines and roach warren that never got used? They cost LaLush bigtime in terms of economy. That's 3 drones down, plus 7 drones worth of minerals, early on in the game.
Deadlift
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States358 Posts
May 11 2011 15:44 GMT
#18180
Couldn't another answer to the riddle be to point to a card and ask "If this card was a jack and I asked you if it was an ace, would you say yes?" If the card I pointed to was an ace you would say "maybe" and if it was a jack you would randomly say "yes" or "no."

Take THAT Day 9!
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