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Sqalevon
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands523 Posts
November 01 2010 15:49 GMT
#13721
On November 02 2010 00:47 Mushin wrote:
What is today's funday Monday?


2v2 your team has to be same race, and you cant build units that your partner is building, so split units 50/50 beforehand.
NeonGenesis
Profile Joined September 2005
Norway260 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-01 15:57:48
November 01 2010 15:53 GMT
#13722
On November 02 2010 00:46 Forak wrote:
Anyone else impressed with DjWheats play overall? Especially considering he was under pressure being in the spotlight so much.. I can't believe he's only in platinum level.
Certainly was a great episode, very very helpful.

Yes, and judging from that it definitely seems like it takes more to be Diamond in the US than in EU. I've only played 28 1v1 ladder matches (can't be bothered to play because of lousy connection, try micro with 1 sec delay) and placed #1 in my Platinum division with 20-8 score, and I quickly only faced people who were ranked 1-10 in Diamond. Wheat seems to be better than me judging by his play and considering the circumstances.
It's all good. I just want rainbows, unicorns and machine guns. -Sundance DiGiovanni
ghostsquall
Profile Joined September 2010
United States187 Posts
November 01 2010 15:56 GMT
#13723
you can tell day[9] is tasteless' brother when he takes his glasses off. they look so alike. o_O
i pwn n00bs
Slakter
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden1947 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-01 15:58:10
November 01 2010 15:57 GMT
#13724
DjWheat had over 1k mins pretty much all game long and never teched, how can you be impressed? ^^

Not bashing Wheat, I love the guy and have huge respect for his work, but I still think his play was pretty bad.
Protoss, can't live with em', can't kill em'.
AyJay
Profile Joined April 2010
1515 Posts
November 01 2010 15:59 GMT
#13725
On November 02 2010 00:57 Sl4ktarN wrote:
DjWheat had over 1k mins pretty much all game long and never teched, how can you be impressed? ^^

Not bashing Wheat, I love the guy and have huge respect for his work, but I still think his play was pretty bad.

Not everyone is born as starcraft player. The skill DjWheat showed is pretty impressive way better than any halo kid could pull out.
NeonGenesis
Profile Joined September 2005
Norway260 Posts
November 01 2010 16:00 GMT
#13726
On November 02 2010 00:57 Sl4ktarN wrote:
DjWheat had over 1k mins pretty much all game long and never teched, how can you be impressed? ^^

Not bashing Wheat, I love the guy and have huge respect for his work, but I still think his play was pretty bad.

I try to attribute that to the fact that he must've been stressed out
It's all good. I just want rainbows, unicorns and machine guns. -Sundance DiGiovanni
Twistacles
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1327 Posts
November 01 2010 16:01 GMT
#13727
I wouldn't say his play was impressive, but it was far from bad. He felt like a 1500 Diamond to me. I'm sure the mistakes were due to pressure.

"If you don't give a shit which gum you buy, get stride" - Tyler
Slakter
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden1947 Posts
November 01 2010 16:01 GMT
#13728
On November 02 2010 00:59 AyJay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2010 00:57 Sl4ktarN wrote:
DjWheat had over 1k mins pretty much all game long and never teched, how can you be impressed? ^^

Not bashing Wheat, I love the guy and have huge respect for his work, but I still think his play was pretty bad.

Not everyone is born as starcraft player. The skill DjWheat showed is pretty impressive way better than any halo kid could pull out.

Ofcourse, but I still dont get why people praise him so much when he´s about as good as the average TLer.

As I said, dont take this as bashing.
Protoss, can't live with em', can't kill em'.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
November 01 2010 16:03 GMT
#13729
On November 02 2010 00:57 Sl4ktarN wrote:
DjWheat had over 1k mins pretty much all game long and never teched, how can you be impressed? ^^

Not bashing Wheat, I love the guy and have huge respect for his work, but I still think his play was pretty bad.

Dont forget he said this is his first RTS ever.
And he got pressure of the i dunno, 8k viewers and the legendary day9 staring at his game the whole time.
I think i would break at that point.
osten
Profile Joined March 2008
Sweden316 Posts
November 01 2010 16:09 GMT
#13730
I don't know why you are discussing how good he is. I loved this episode extremely much. Really Sean should do more coaching! I think he was at a level where we would learn things that are applicable to almost everyone. I like that. He demonstrated normal play in a perfect way, one of the best subjects day[9] could have found.
AyJay
Profile Joined April 2010
1515 Posts
November 01 2010 16:14 GMT
#13731
On November 02 2010 01:01 Sl4ktarN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2010 00:59 AyJay wrote:
On November 02 2010 00:57 Sl4ktarN wrote:
DjWheat had over 1k mins pretty much all game long and never teched, how can you be impressed? ^^

Not bashing Wheat, I love the guy and have huge respect for his work, but I still think his play was pretty bad.

Not everyone is born as starcraft player. The skill DjWheat showed is pretty impressive way better than any halo kid could pull out.

Ofcourse, but I still dont get why people praise him so much when he´s about as good as the average TLer.

As I said, dont take this as bashing.

Except DjWheat isn't your average Tler user. He has been deeply involved into e-sports and gaming in general since wayyy back, he is host of many gaming shows and so on. It's great to see guy like him digging for some Starcraft2 action.
XGDragon
Profile Joined September 2008
Netherlands61 Posts
November 01 2010 16:18 GMT
#13732
Hey Day9, if your reading this, I just did exactly what you told djWHEAT: macro up, keep food up, don't look at the battles, don't forget mutalisks, keep my screen fixed on my scouts and never freak out (immediately made my queen after it died at the expansion).

Guess what? I won miraculously by just doing a quick two pronged attack with zerglings at the front and mutalisks in the back, then completely ignoring the zerglings (save for one quick glance), slightly checking up on the mutalisks and then go back to macro world. I destroyed his complete economy, forcing him to go all-in on me which obviously didn't work out so well.
My current qq: TvT hellions are boring to watch :(
noD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
November 01 2010 16:19 GMT
#13733
I noticed his opponent was slight favored too ...
perhaps he is soon to be promoted even being #26 from his div ? xDD
Typho0n
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada276 Posts
November 01 2010 16:24 GMT
#13734
he should have 6 pooled in both games
Crackensan
Profile Joined August 2010
United States479 Posts
November 01 2010 16:24 GMT
#13735
I think the daily was more along the lines of things to ask yourself when your playing. Take what day9 says, (Look at your minimap, tap 5 to check larva, tap 6 to check queen energy, tap 7 to check queen energy, ect) all while LOOKING SOMEWHERE ELSE and WORKING on something else is more the point.

Let's assume it was someone else, like silver level or even gold. I think the same process would happen. It was, in my eyes, more of a way to lower level players to analyze there "In the Moment While Playing" fundamentals. I know I do a lot of main view staring rather than using the bottom part of the screen (Mini-map, unit display, hotkeys) to do my required tasks. That is bad, and clearly if I follow what was presented in this daily, can improve.

I also like the bit about ignoring certain aspects of the game (Box, 1a into the back of the base, and ignore it while you macro) to focus on other things that take precedent over the current situation, like your spawn larva or other macro mechanics, like actually making stuff to kill the other guy.

Probably one of the best daily's on how one should actually manage tasks and how best to efficiently do it.
Tasteless: "Well this strategy is made of balls"--Concerning Fruitdealer Vs. BoXeR
BloodBaron
Profile Joined October 2010
United States21 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-01 16:39:20
November 01 2010 16:37 GMT
#13736
On November 02 2010 00:57 Sl4ktarN wrote:
DjWheat had over 1k mins pretty much all game long and never teched, how can you be impressed? ^^

Not bashing Wheat, I love the guy and have huge respect for his work, but I still think his play was pretty bad.



I think the point was that his skill lvl seemed higher than his platinum rank indicated, but if you look at his bonus pool (and the frantic nature of his play) it's understandable why. He probably doesn't play much, particularly 1v1 ladder; combined with his "fast" play it makes fine macro control very hard. So, as was said, he has the strategic sense to be a much better player, but his mechanics (and lack of regular play) were keeping him lower than he should be.

Edit...as day pointed out, even with him talking over his shoulder he was way ahead over his opponent in food count...and he was the lower ranked player!
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
November 01 2010 16:52 GMT
#13737
How many of you don't realize dj is playing on a different account during the daily...
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
SiguR
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada2039 Posts
November 01 2010 16:59 GMT
#13738
On November 02 2010 01:37 BloodBaron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2010 00:57 Sl4ktarN wrote:
DjWheat had over 1k mins pretty much all game long and never teched, how can you be impressed? ^^

Not bashing Wheat, I love the guy and have huge respect for his work, but I still think his play was pretty bad.



I think the point was that his skill lvl seemed higher than his platinum rank indicated, but if you look at his bonus pool (and the frantic nature of his play) it's understandable why. He probably doesn't play much, particularly 1v1 ladder; combined with his "fast" play it makes fine macro control very hard. So, as was said, he has the strategic sense to be a much better player, but his mechanics (and lack of regular play) were keeping him lower than he should be.

Edit...as day pointed out, even with him talking over his shoulder he was way ahead over his opponent
in food count...and he was the lower ranked player!


Actually, I thought his play in the first game looked exactly like platinum play.

Regardless though djwheat is pretty damn baller considering he's got a family and about five hundred other things on the fly. I'm sure if he played as much as the majority of us he'd be diamond easily.

I enjoyed the daily. Obviously he's not going to perform as well while basically relearning how to play on the spot with commands being given to him over his shoulder. It should be noted that the benefits of superior macro were very evident in that second game.
Crosswind
Profile Joined May 2010
United States279 Posts
November 01 2010 17:06 GMT
#13739
Thought this daily was pretty spectacular. I think one of the best things that Day9 brings is the ability to point out stuff that top-notch players do that we wouldn't think to.

Keep your eyes one place, fingers doing something else? Wouldn't have thought of that.
Tapping? New to me.
His focus on playing slow and macroing, really helpful.

Thought this was an excellent episode. More in this vein, please.

-Cross
Eleclight
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland70 Posts
November 01 2010 17:19 GMT
#13740
On November 01 2010 23:25 Sqalevon wrote:
And so Tutoring Thursday was born.

Day[9] better make this happen!
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