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atuor
Profile Joined July 2010
United States83 Posts
September 23 2012 14:43 GMT
#541
500 meaningful posts? c'mon TL.net not everyone who has 500 posts has contributed meaningful posts every time... lame limit. this type of requirement will inspire more trolling comments and other non-useful posts.
Vanimar
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
220 Posts
September 23 2012 14:44 GMT
#542
You can always spam the random pic thread. 1 pic per post :D
I figured out the EG Curse. It was set in motion by Voodoo Shamans working for Millenium. Whenever EG aquires a player, Voodoo energies start slowly draining skill from the EG guy into an Millenium newcomer. Think about it!
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
September 23 2012 14:47 GMT
#543
On September 23 2012 23:43 atuor wrote:
500 meaningful posts? c'mon TL.net not everyone who has 500 posts has contributed meaningful posts every time... lame limit. this type of requirement will inspire more trolling comments and other non-useful posts.


maybe it's a conspiracy for mods to raise their ban count ^^
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
HooK2000
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany139 Posts
September 23 2012 14:47 GMT
#544
im so sad. no 500 posts..
@HooK2000 // youtube.com/hookt4
ZaKiSC
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden19 Posts
September 23 2012 14:49 GMT
#545
I guess spamming "TERRAN OP LOL" is rewarding after all.

The 500 post limit is lame.
Long live the Emperor!
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
September 23 2012 14:49 GMT
#546
On September 23 2012 23:38 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 23:33 TestSubject893 wrote:
On September 23 2012 23:05 Caihead wrote:
On September 23 2012 22:19 RespectTheNerd wrote:
i think they should re think the post thing and just give it to people who have created an account before a set time.
I personlly dislike posting unless i really have an oppinion on something that i think will ad to the disscusion and im sure alot others have the same problem. (not saying this to be able to get a beta key but i know alot of others who have been members for years but hasnt posted alot)


That would actually rule out alot of people who only joined the site for SC2 though, lol.


Well they could have done something kind of either-or requirement, for example, you can enter if you have 500 posts OR joined before date X. They could even have made it something like 500 posts or 400 posts and joined before Y or 250 and joined before Z.

It just seems very odd that they'd create a situation that insists all posts are equal contributions. I for one know that I'm not going to be hesitating to post my opinion anymore, even if its already been stated or I think it adds little to the discussion because of the precedent that this raffle set. We now know that not only will other TL users judge you on your post count, but so will the admins and staff.


lol. come on you are blowing this out of proportion, most vets who are active will at least have 500 posts and it is a give away commemorating the anniversary of their site... They could be alot stricter with the parameters if they wanted to be. Not having a post limit would mean that you will get spammers who just googled "HOTS beta key give away" swarming to their site.


I am ineligible for this raffle. Do you think I'm a spammer who just googled "HOTS beta key give away"? My point is, if I posted every time I had a minor opinion on something when reading a thread, or even just every time I started to type out a post, I'd be eligible. This raffle encourages me to post every time instead of trying to judge the merit of my own posts before posting.
StreetWise
Profile Joined January 2010
United States594 Posts
September 23 2012 14:57 GMT
#547
I am so sad. I have been on this site for several years but I don't post as much as I usually don't have anything insightful to say. Does it count that some of my first posts were to give a beta key away for WOL?
I will not be poisoned by your bitterness
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
September 23 2012 14:59 GMT
#548
Could we get any more information about when those who entered will get contacted if they win?
CodeskyE
Profile Joined January 2011
United States777 Posts
September 23 2012 15:02 GMT
#549
goodluck everyone
Sakkreth
Profile Joined February 2011
Lithuania1096 Posts
September 23 2012 15:09 GMT
#550
Ehh I didn't spammed, gl for participants
WhiteRa, NaNiWa, Creator, sOs, Krr, ForGG, MMA, Zest ||
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
September 23 2012 15:18 GMT
#551
On September 23 2012 23:49 TestSubject893 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 23:38 Caihead wrote:
On September 23 2012 23:33 TestSubject893 wrote:
On September 23 2012 23:05 Caihead wrote:
On September 23 2012 22:19 RespectTheNerd wrote:
i think they should re think the post thing and just give it to people who have created an account before a set time.
I personlly dislike posting unless i really have an oppinion on something that i think will ad to the disscusion and im sure alot others have the same problem. (not saying this to be able to get a beta key but i know alot of others who have been members for years but hasnt posted alot)


That would actually rule out alot of people who only joined the site for SC2 though, lol.


Well they could have done something kind of either-or requirement, for example, you can enter if you have 500 posts OR joined before date X. They could even have made it something like 500 posts or 400 posts and joined before Y or 250 and joined before Z.

It just seems very odd that they'd create a situation that insists all posts are equal contributions. I for one know that I'm not going to be hesitating to post my opinion anymore, even if its already been stated or I think it adds little to the discussion because of the precedent that this raffle set. We now know that not only will other TL users judge you on your post count, but so will the admins and staff.


lol. come on you are blowing this out of proportion, most vets who are active will at least have 500 posts and it is a give away commemorating the anniversary of their site... They could be alot stricter with the parameters if they wanted to be. Not having a post limit would mean that you will get spammers who just googled "HOTS beta key give away" swarming to their site.


I am ineligible for this raffle. Do you think I'm a spammer who just googled "HOTS beta key give away"? My point is, if I posted every time I had a minor opinion on something when reading a thread, or even just every time I started to type out a post, I'd be eligible. This raffle encourages me to post every time instead of trying to judge the merit of my own posts before posting.


I wasn't directing the comment at you, point was they had to have something to indicate activity and interest in their site, post count is a good indicator.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Lucktar
Profile Joined July 2008
United States526 Posts
September 23 2012 15:25 GMT
#552
Do I have 500 posts? I'm pretty sure I'm close.
NaDa, much, ZerO fighting!
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
September 23 2012 15:35 GMT
#553
On September 23 2012 23:49 TestSubject893 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 23:38 Caihead wrote:
On September 23 2012 23:33 TestSubject893 wrote:
On September 23 2012 23:05 Caihead wrote:
On September 23 2012 22:19 RespectTheNerd wrote:
i think they should re think the post thing and just give it to people who have created an account before a set time.
I personlly dislike posting unless i really have an oppinion on something that i think will ad to the disscusion and im sure alot others have the same problem. (not saying this to be able to get a beta key but i know alot of others who have been members for years but hasnt posted alot)


That would actually rule out alot of people who only joined the site for SC2 though, lol.


Well they could have done something kind of either-or requirement, for example, you can enter if you have 500 posts OR joined before date X. They could even have made it something like 500 posts or 400 posts and joined before Y or 250 and joined before Z.

It just seems very odd that they'd create a situation that insists all posts are equal contributions. I for one know that I'm not going to be hesitating to post my opinion anymore, even if its already been stated or I think it adds little to the discussion because of the precedent that this raffle set. We now know that not only will other TL users judge you on your post count, but so will the admins and staff.


lol. come on you are blowing this out of proportion, most vets who are active will at least have 500 posts and it is a give away commemorating the anniversary of their site... They could be alot stricter with the parameters if they wanted to be. Not having a post limit would mean that you will get spammers who just googled "HOTS beta key give away" swarming to their site.


I am ineligible for this raffle. Do you think I'm a spammer who just googled "HOTS beta key give away"? My point is, if I posted every time I had a minor opinion on something when reading a thread, or even just every time I started to type out a post, I'd be eligible. This raffle encourages me to post every time instead of trying to judge the merit of my own posts before posting.


When TL had their cheerful contest, I couldn't participate because I'm godawful at photoshop. I wasn't complaining that TL prefers people who can use photoshop and that they hate me though
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-23 15:49:39
September 23 2012 15:44 GMT
#554
On September 24 2012 00:18 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 23:49 TestSubject893 wrote:
On September 23 2012 23:38 Caihead wrote:
On September 23 2012 23:33 TestSubject893 wrote:
On September 23 2012 23:05 Caihead wrote:
On September 23 2012 22:19 RespectTheNerd wrote:
i think they should re think the post thing and just give it to people who have created an account before a set time.
I personlly dislike posting unless i really have an oppinion on something that i think will ad to the disscusion and im sure alot others have the same problem. (not saying this to be able to get a beta key but i know alot of others who have been members for years but hasnt posted alot)


That would actually rule out alot of people who only joined the site for SC2 though, lol.


Well they could have done something kind of either-or requirement, for example, you can enter if you have 500 posts OR joined before date X. They could even have made it something like 500 posts or 400 posts and joined before Y or 250 and joined before Z.

It just seems very odd that they'd create a situation that insists all posts are equal contributions. I for one know that I'm not going to be hesitating to post my opinion anymore, even if its already been stated or I think it adds little to the discussion because of the precedent that this raffle set. We now know that not only will other TL users judge you on your post count, but so will the admins and staff.


lol. come on you are blowing this out of proportion, most vets who are active will at least have 500 posts and it is a give away commemorating the anniversary of their site... They could be alot stricter with the parameters if they wanted to be. Not having a post limit would mean that you will get spammers who just googled "HOTS beta key give away" swarming to their site.


I am ineligible for this raffle. Do you think I'm a spammer who just googled "HOTS beta key give away"? My point is, if I posted every time I had a minor opinion on something when reading a thread, or even just every time I started to type out a post, I'd be eligible. This raffle encourages me to post every time instead of trying to judge the merit of my own posts before posting.


I wasn't directing the comment at you, point was they had to have something to indicate activity and interest in their site, post count is a good indicator.


But what I'm saying is that people are being harmed for holding their own posts to a higher standard. Let me use your post from eariler on this page as an example:

+ Show Spoiler +
On September 23 2012 23:47 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 23:43 atuor wrote:
500 meaningful posts? c'mon TL.net not everyone who has 500 posts has contributed meaningful posts every time... lame limit. this type of requirement will inspire more trolling comments and other non-useful posts.


maybe it's a conspiracy for mods to raise their ban count ^^


Now there's nothing wrong with these posts or the people who make them, but 95% of the time, if I started posting something like this I would decide not to during the posting process because, honestly, I don't think it adds enough to the thread to warrent using up other people's time reading it. Obviously you concluded differently and that's fine, but the fact of the matter is, I'm being punished for trying to keep discussions concise.

With that in mind, ask yourself has someone with 500 posts in a few months certainly contributed more to this site as someone who has made 100 over a few years? Is the distinction so clear that we should be blindly and indiscriminately rewarding post count without any other consideration? My answer to the latter is no.



Edit:
On September 24 2012 00:35 Linwelin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 23:49 TestSubject893 wrote:
On September 23 2012 23:38 Caihead wrote:
On September 23 2012 23:33 TestSubject893 wrote:
On September 23 2012 23:05 Caihead wrote:
On September 23 2012 22:19 RespectTheNerd wrote:
i think they should re think the post thing and just give it to people who have created an account before a set time.
I personlly dislike posting unless i really have an oppinion on something that i think will ad to the disscusion and im sure alot others have the same problem. (not saying this to be able to get a beta key but i know alot of others who have been members for years but hasnt posted alot)


That would actually rule out alot of people who only joined the site for SC2 though, lol.


Well they could have done something kind of either-or requirement, for example, you can enter if you have 500 posts OR joined before date X. They could even have made it something like 500 posts or 400 posts and joined before Y or 250 and joined before Z.

It just seems very odd that they'd create a situation that insists all posts are equal contributions. I for one know that I'm not going to be hesitating to post my opinion anymore, even if its already been stated or I think it adds little to the discussion because of the precedent that this raffle set. We now know that not only will other TL users judge you on your post count, but so will the admins and staff.


lol. come on you are blowing this out of proportion, most vets who are active will at least have 500 posts and it is a give away commemorating the anniversary of their site... They could be alot stricter with the parameters if they wanted to be. Not having a post limit would mean that you will get spammers who just googled "HOTS beta key give away" swarming to their site.


I am ineligible for this raffle. Do you think I'm a spammer who just googled "HOTS beta key give away"? My point is, if I posted every time I had a minor opinion on something when reading a thread, or even just every time I started to type out a post, I'd be eligible. This raffle encourages me to post every time instead of trying to judge the merit of my own posts before posting.


When TL had their cheerful contest, I couldn't participate because I'm godawful at photoshop. I wasn't complaining that TL prefers people who can use photoshop and that they hate me though


But my point is that I would have been rewarded for consciously going against what I thought was best for the site. In my opinion, adding one line nearly context-less posts to threads is actively hurting the community. Photoshopping adds to the community.
Asza
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark45 Posts
September 23 2012 15:54 GMT
#555
Have been on TL for years but i don't have anywhere near 500 posts mostly because i only write something if i really feel i have something useful to contribute with. Kinda sad now. Damn.
darkzuka
Profile Joined October 2009
Peru88 Posts
September 23 2012 16:07 GMT
#556
im old but active :c damnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
September 23 2012 16:09 GMT
#557
On September 24 2012 00:44 TestSubject893 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2012 00:18 Caihead wrote:
On September 23 2012 23:49 TestSubject893 wrote:
On September 23 2012 23:38 Caihead wrote:
On September 23 2012 23:33 TestSubject893 wrote:
On September 23 2012 23:05 Caihead wrote:
On September 23 2012 22:19 RespectTheNerd wrote:
i think they should re think the post thing and just give it to people who have created an account before a set time.
I personlly dislike posting unless i really have an oppinion on something that i think will ad to the disscusion and im sure alot others have the same problem. (not saying this to be able to get a beta key but i know alot of others who have been members for years but hasnt posted alot)


That would actually rule out alot of people who only joined the site for SC2 though, lol.


Well they could have done something kind of either-or requirement, for example, you can enter if you have 500 posts OR joined before date X. They could even have made it something like 500 posts or 400 posts and joined before Y or 250 and joined before Z.

It just seems very odd that they'd create a situation that insists all posts are equal contributions. I for one know that I'm not going to be hesitating to post my opinion anymore, even if its already been stated or I think it adds little to the discussion because of the precedent that this raffle set. We now know that not only will other TL users judge you on your post count, but so will the admins and staff.


lol. come on you are blowing this out of proportion, most vets who are active will at least have 500 posts and it is a give away commemorating the anniversary of their site... They could be alot stricter with the parameters if they wanted to be. Not having a post limit would mean that you will get spammers who just googled "HOTS beta key give away" swarming to their site.


I am ineligible for this raffle. Do you think I'm a spammer who just googled "HOTS beta key give away"? My point is, if I posted every time I had a minor opinion on something when reading a thread, or even just every time I started to type out a post, I'd be eligible. This raffle encourages me to post every time instead of trying to judge the merit of my own posts before posting.


I wasn't directing the comment at you, point was they had to have something to indicate activity and interest in their site, post count is a good indicator.


But what I'm saying is that people are being harmed for holding their own posts to a higher standard. Let me use your post from eariler on this page as an example:

+ Show Spoiler +
On September 23 2012 23:47 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 23:43 atuor wrote:
500 meaningful posts? c'mon TL.net not everyone who has 500 posts has contributed meaningful posts every time... lame limit. this type of requirement will inspire more trolling comments and other non-useful posts.


maybe it's a conspiracy for mods to raise their ban count ^^


Now there's nothing wrong with these posts or the people who make them, but 95% of the time, if I started posting something like this I would decide not to during the posting process because, honestly, I don't think it adds enough to the thread to warrent using up other people's time reading it. Obviously you concluded differently and that's fine, but the fact of the matter is, I'm being punished for trying to keep discussions concise.

With that in mind, ask yourself has someone with 500 posts in a few months certainly contributed more to this site as someone who has made 100 over a few years? Is the distinction so clear that we should be blindly and indiscriminately rewarding post count without any other consideration? My answer to the latter is no.



Edit:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2012 00:35 Linwelin wrote:
On September 23 2012 23:49 TestSubject893 wrote:
On September 23 2012 23:38 Caihead wrote:
On September 23 2012 23:33 TestSubject893 wrote:
On September 23 2012 23:05 Caihead wrote:
On September 23 2012 22:19 RespectTheNerd wrote:
i think they should re think the post thing and just give it to people who have created an account before a set time.
I personlly dislike posting unless i really have an oppinion on something that i think will ad to the disscusion and im sure alot others have the same problem. (not saying this to be able to get a beta key but i know alot of others who have been members for years but hasnt posted alot)


That would actually rule out alot of people who only joined the site for SC2 though, lol.


Well they could have done something kind of either-or requirement, for example, you can enter if you have 500 posts OR joined before date X. They could even have made it something like 500 posts or 400 posts and joined before Y or 250 and joined before Z.

It just seems very odd that they'd create a situation that insists all posts are equal contributions. I for one know that I'm not going to be hesitating to post my opinion anymore, even if its already been stated or I think it adds little to the discussion because of the precedent that this raffle set. We now know that not only will other TL users judge you on your post count, but so will the admins and staff.


lol. come on you are blowing this out of proportion, most vets who are active will at least have 500 posts and it is a give away commemorating the anniversary of their site... They could be alot stricter with the parameters if they wanted to be. Not having a post limit would mean that you will get spammers who just googled "HOTS beta key give away" swarming to their site.


I am ineligible for this raffle. Do you think I'm a spammer who just googled "HOTS beta key give away"? My point is, if I posted every time I had a minor opinion on something when reading a thread, or even just every time I started to type out a post, I'd be eligible. This raffle encourages me to post every time instead of trying to judge the merit of my own posts before posting.


When TL had their cheerful contest, I couldn't participate because I'm godawful at photoshop. I wasn't complaining that TL prefers people who can use photoshop and that they hate me though


But my point is that I would have been rewarded for consciously going against what I thought was best for the site. In my opinion, adding one line nearly context-less posts to threads is actively hurting the community. Photoshopping adds to the community.


Are you honestly expecting TL to go through the history of every single person that could open an account with out a post limit just for a beta key raffle? You can't be serious. They need to narrow that number down with some kind of automated process, if you want to make an automated program that would detect the quality of the posts made by posters on an objective level with in the context of what ever thread or environment the post was made in be my guest. Besides that leave the moderation process to the moderators and provide your suggestions to the website / staff suggestions portions of the website.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
September 23 2012 16:15 GMT
#558
On September 24 2012 01:09 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2012 00:44 TestSubject893 wrote:
On September 24 2012 00:18 Caihead wrote:
On September 23 2012 23:49 TestSubject893 wrote:
On September 23 2012 23:38 Caihead wrote:
On September 23 2012 23:33 TestSubject893 wrote:
On September 23 2012 23:05 Caihead wrote:
On September 23 2012 22:19 RespectTheNerd wrote:
i think they should re think the post thing and just give it to people who have created an account before a set time.
I personlly dislike posting unless i really have an oppinion on something that i think will ad to the disscusion and im sure alot others have the same problem. (not saying this to be able to get a beta key but i know alot of others who have been members for years but hasnt posted alot)


That would actually rule out alot of people who only joined the site for SC2 though, lol.


Well they could have done something kind of either-or requirement, for example, you can enter if you have 500 posts OR joined before date X. They could even have made it something like 500 posts or 400 posts and joined before Y or 250 and joined before Z.

It just seems very odd that they'd create a situation that insists all posts are equal contributions. I for one know that I'm not going to be hesitating to post my opinion anymore, even if its already been stated or I think it adds little to the discussion because of the precedent that this raffle set. We now know that not only will other TL users judge you on your post count, but so will the admins and staff.


lol. come on you are blowing this out of proportion, most vets who are active will at least have 500 posts and it is a give away commemorating the anniversary of their site... They could be alot stricter with the parameters if they wanted to be. Not having a post limit would mean that you will get spammers who just googled "HOTS beta key give away" swarming to their site.


I am ineligible for this raffle. Do you think I'm a spammer who just googled "HOTS beta key give away"? My point is, if I posted every time I had a minor opinion on something when reading a thread, or even just every time I started to type out a post, I'd be eligible. This raffle encourages me to post every time instead of trying to judge the merit of my own posts before posting.


I wasn't directing the comment at you, point was they had to have something to indicate activity and interest in their site, post count is a good indicator.


But what I'm saying is that people are being harmed for holding their own posts to a higher standard. Let me use your post from eariler on this page as an example:

+ Show Spoiler +
On September 23 2012 23:47 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 23:43 atuor wrote:
500 meaningful posts? c'mon TL.net not everyone who has 500 posts has contributed meaningful posts every time... lame limit. this type of requirement will inspire more trolling comments and other non-useful posts.


maybe it's a conspiracy for mods to raise their ban count ^^


Now there's nothing wrong with these posts or the people who make them, but 95% of the time, if I started posting something like this I would decide not to during the posting process because, honestly, I don't think it adds enough to the thread to warrent using up other people's time reading it. Obviously you concluded differently and that's fine, but the fact of the matter is, I'm being punished for trying to keep discussions concise.

With that in mind, ask yourself has someone with 500 posts in a few months certainly contributed more to this site as someone who has made 100 over a few years? Is the distinction so clear that we should be blindly and indiscriminately rewarding post count without any other consideration? My answer to the latter is no.



Edit:
On September 24 2012 00:35 Linwelin wrote:
On September 23 2012 23:49 TestSubject893 wrote:
On September 23 2012 23:38 Caihead wrote:
On September 23 2012 23:33 TestSubject893 wrote:
On September 23 2012 23:05 Caihead wrote:
On September 23 2012 22:19 RespectTheNerd wrote:
i think they should re think the post thing and just give it to people who have created an account before a set time.
I personlly dislike posting unless i really have an oppinion on something that i think will ad to the disscusion and im sure alot others have the same problem. (not saying this to be able to get a beta key but i know alot of others who have been members for years but hasnt posted alot)


That would actually rule out alot of people who only joined the site for SC2 though, lol.


Well they could have done something kind of either-or requirement, for example, you can enter if you have 500 posts OR joined before date X. They could even have made it something like 500 posts or 400 posts and joined before Y or 250 and joined before Z.

It just seems very odd that they'd create a situation that insists all posts are equal contributions. I for one know that I'm not going to be hesitating to post my opinion anymore, even if its already been stated or I think it adds little to the discussion because of the precedent that this raffle set. We now know that not only will other TL users judge you on your post count, but so will the admins and staff.


lol. come on you are blowing this out of proportion, most vets who are active will at least have 500 posts and it is a give away commemorating the anniversary of their site... They could be alot stricter with the parameters if they wanted to be. Not having a post limit would mean that you will get spammers who just googled "HOTS beta key give away" swarming to their site.


I am ineligible for this raffle. Do you think I'm a spammer who just googled "HOTS beta key give away"? My point is, if I posted every time I had a minor opinion on something when reading a thread, or even just every time I started to type out a post, I'd be eligible. This raffle encourages me to post every time instead of trying to judge the merit of my own posts before posting.


When TL had their cheerful contest, I couldn't participate because I'm godawful at photoshop. I wasn't complaining that TL prefers people who can use photoshop and that they hate me though


But my point is that I would have been rewarded for consciously going against what I thought was best for the site. In my opinion, adding one line nearly context-less posts to threads is actively hurting the community. Photoshopping adds to the community.


Are you honestly expecting TL to go through the history of every single person that could open an account with out a post limit just for a beta key raffle? You can't be serious. They need to narrow that number down with some kind of automated process, if you want to make an automated program that would detect the quality of the posts made by posters on an objective level with in the context of what ever thread or environment the post was made in be my guest.


What I suggested earlier is that they also take registration date into account. This would also be entirely automated and not involve ridiculous manual data entry as you suggest. Please do not try and put words in my mouth. You know what I'm suggesting, you already responded directly to the post suggesting it.

Besides that leave the moderation process to the moderators and provide your suggestions to the website / staff suggestions portions of the website.


Are you saying people shouldn't consider the quality of their own posts before posting? If so, I think we're just going to have to disagree on that point.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
September 23 2012 16:20 GMT
#559
On September 24 2012 01:15 TestSubject893 wrote:
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On September 24 2012 01:09 Caihead wrote:
On September 24 2012 00:44 TestSubject893 wrote:
On September 24 2012 00:18 Caihead wrote:
On September 23 2012 23:49 TestSubject893 wrote:
On September 23 2012 23:38 Caihead wrote:
On September 23 2012 23:33 TestSubject893 wrote:
On September 23 2012 23:05 Caihead wrote:
On September 23 2012 22:19 RespectTheNerd wrote:
i think they should re think the post thing and just give it to people who have created an account before a set time.
I personlly dislike posting unless i really have an oppinion on something that i think will ad to the disscusion and im sure alot others have the same problem. (not saying this to be able to get a beta key but i know alot of others who have been members for years but hasnt posted alot)


That would actually rule out alot of people who only joined the site for SC2 though, lol.


Well they could have done something kind of either-or requirement, for example, you can enter if you have 500 posts OR joined before date X. They could even have made it something like 500 posts or 400 posts and joined before Y or 250 and joined before Z.

It just seems very odd that they'd create a situation that insists all posts are equal contributions. I for one know that I'm not going to be hesitating to post my opinion anymore, even if its already been stated or I think it adds little to the discussion because of the precedent that this raffle set. We now know that not only will other TL users judge you on your post count, but so will the admins and staff.


lol. come on you are blowing this out of proportion, most vets who are active will at least have 500 posts and it is a give away commemorating the anniversary of their site... They could be alot stricter with the parameters if they wanted to be. Not having a post limit would mean that you will get spammers who just googled "HOTS beta key give away" swarming to their site.


I am ineligible for this raffle. Do you think I'm a spammer who just googled "HOTS beta key give away"? My point is, if I posted every time I had a minor opinion on something when reading a thread, or even just every time I started to type out a post, I'd be eligible. This raffle encourages me to post every time instead of trying to judge the merit of my own posts before posting.


I wasn't directing the comment at you, point was they had to have something to indicate activity and interest in their site, post count is a good indicator.


But what I'm saying is that people are being harmed for holding their own posts to a higher standard. Let me use your post from eariler on this page as an example:

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On September 23 2012 23:47 Caihead wrote:
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On September 23 2012 23:43 atuor wrote:
500 meaningful posts? c'mon TL.net not everyone who has 500 posts has contributed meaningful posts every time... lame limit. this type of requirement will inspire more trolling comments and other non-useful posts.


maybe it's a conspiracy for mods to raise their ban count ^^


Now there's nothing wrong with these posts or the people who make them, but 95% of the time, if I started posting something like this I would decide not to during the posting process because, honestly, I don't think it adds enough to the thread to warrent using up other people's time reading it. Obviously you concluded differently and that's fine, but the fact of the matter is, I'm being punished for trying to keep discussions concise.

With that in mind, ask yourself has someone with 500 posts in a few months certainly contributed more to this site as someone who has made 100 over a few years? Is the distinction so clear that we should be blindly and indiscriminately rewarding post count without any other consideration? My answer to the latter is no.



Edit:
On September 24 2012 00:35 Linwelin wrote:
On September 23 2012 23:49 TestSubject893 wrote:
On September 23 2012 23:38 Caihead wrote:
On September 23 2012 23:33 TestSubject893 wrote:
On September 23 2012 23:05 Caihead wrote:
On September 23 2012 22:19 RespectTheNerd wrote:
i think they should re think the post thing and just give it to people who have created an account before a set time.
I personlly dislike posting unless i really have an oppinion on something that i think will ad to the disscusion and im sure alot others have the same problem. (not saying this to be able to get a beta key but i know alot of others who have been members for years but hasnt posted alot)


That would actually rule out alot of people who only joined the site for SC2 though, lol.


Well they could have done something kind of either-or requirement, for example, you can enter if you have 500 posts OR joined before date X. They could even have made it something like 500 posts or 400 posts and joined before Y or 250 and joined before Z.

It just seems very odd that they'd create a situation that insists all posts are equal contributions. I for one know that I'm not going to be hesitating to post my opinion anymore, even if its already been stated or I think it adds little to the discussion because of the precedent that this raffle set. We now know that not only will other TL users judge you on your post count, but so will the admins and staff.


lol. come on you are blowing this out of proportion, most vets who are active will at least have 500 posts and it is a give away commemorating the anniversary of their site... They could be alot stricter with the parameters if they wanted to be. Not having a post limit would mean that you will get spammers who just googled "HOTS beta key give away" swarming to their site.


I am ineligible for this raffle. Do you think I'm a spammer who just googled "HOTS beta key give away"? My point is, if I posted every time I had a minor opinion on something when reading a thread, or even just every time I started to type out a post, I'd be eligible. This raffle encourages me to post every time instead of trying to judge the merit of my own posts before posting.


When TL had their cheerful contest, I couldn't participate because I'm godawful at photoshop. I wasn't complaining that TL prefers people who can use photoshop and that they hate me though


But my point is that I would have been rewarded for consciously going against what I thought was best for the site. In my opinion, adding one line nearly context-less posts to threads is actively hurting the community. Photoshopping adds to the community.


Are you honestly expecting TL to go through the history of every single person that could open an account with out a post limit just for a beta key raffle? You can't be serious. They need to narrow that number down with some kind of automated process, if you want to make an automated program that would detect the quality of the posts made by posters on an objective level with in the context of what ever thread or environment the post was made in be my guest.


What I suggested earlier is that they also take registration date into account. This would also be entirely automated and not involve ridiculous manual data entry as you suggest. Please do not try and put words in my mouth. You know what I'm suggesting, you already responded directly to the post suggesting it.

Show nested quote +
Besides that leave the moderation process to the moderators and provide your suggestions to the website / staff suggestions portions of the website.


Are you saying people shouldn't consider the quality of their own posts before posting? If so, I think we're just going to have to disagree on that point.


I'm not saying that, but your suggestions belong in that section of the website. Also if on principle it's just to have some form of quality control, then it has to draw the line some where regardless. Is it going to be 300 posts and 2 years? 150 posts and 5 years? Does the combination matter? Surely that number is entirely circumstantial and maybe the optimal solution was 500 posts with out an year limit in the first place. So such a process that you are suggesting is already in place. Registration date like I said is already incredibly unfair since it would advantage BW fans who might not care about SC2 over new fans who registered for SC2 when they found teamliquid.
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September 23 2012 16:28 GMT
#560
People complaining about the post limit seem to have no problem making a lot of posts complaining in this thread!

Gz TL, its a great site and here's to another 10 successful years. Keep making dat quality content bro's.
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