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On September 23 2012 20:34 kollin wrote:
How are TL meant to know whether or not you're active unless you post? 500 posts isn't even many, I don't post that much and I've nearly got 1000.
You could simply take a look at a user's registration date, maybe add in number of purchases from the TL store or number of visits.
The current system of only letting in 500-post-users to the raffle dicriminates the majority of long-year TL users.
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On September 23 2012 20:42 ZwuckeL wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2012 20:34 kollin wrote:
How are TL meant to know whether or not you're active unless you post? 500 posts isn't even many, I don't post that much and I've nearly got 1000. You could simply take a look at a user's registration date, maybe add in number of purchases from the TL store or number of visits. The current system of only letting in 500-post-users to the raffle dicriminates the majority of long-year TL users.
If you've been here for a few years and not managed to get 500 posts, then really you have not been active enough. And judging it by number of store purchases favours people in a better financial position. Post count is just the simplest and most fair way to judge it.
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I should be more active on the lr-threads spamming "NICE FORCEFIELDS!", "MVP IS A GOD" and "GG!!!"... :/
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This 500 post requirement is ridiculous. I've visited TL almost everyday for longer than year now and I've even turned my addblock down just for you guys. But I'm not eligible for this discount because I haven't spammed threads with "interesting" "oh no  " "best of luck" "gj!" type of meaningless post not contributing with anything.
It's so much harder as a non native English speaker to actually contribute since I don't know how to properly express myself and my views or how to give advice.
But nevertheless happy birthday TL and let's get back to this raffle when you turn 20!
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If you couldn't spam 500 posts you are less than human and not worthy of receiving something TL got for free. It's too important of a gift with give out to anyone who had been a member for years just for applying.
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On September 23 2012 20:45 kollin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2012 20:42 ZwuckeL wrote:On September 23 2012 20:34 kollin wrote:
How are TL meant to know whether or not you're active unless you post? 500 posts isn't even many, I don't post that much and I've nearly got 1000. You could simply take a look at a user's registration date, maybe add in number of purchases from the TL store or number of visits. The current system of only letting in 500-post-users to the raffle dicriminates the majority of long-year TL users. If you've been here for a few years and not managed to get 500 posts, then really you have not been active enough. And judging it by number of store purchases favours people in a better financial position. Post count is just the simplest and most fair way to judge it.
TL.net is the website that opens automatically when i open my browser. Your estimation on users being not active when they have few posts is simply the falsest statement i've read in a long time. I bet more than 90% of TL's active users have less than 500 posts. TL is not only a forum but also a community site where you can read huge write-ups, blogs, statistics and what not. That are all activities where you don't ever need to post anything.
This raffle will create 1) a lot more spam and comments without actual content in it on these forums 2) disappoint a lot of active regular, legit TL users.
It will overall cast a bad light on TL.net
edit: just saw you registered mid 2011 and have 900 posts? i bet 90% of your posts are simply said garbage and contribute NOTHING to a nice read in these forums. This is exactly why this raffle is senseless and the points I made are valid
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Russian Federation4295 Posts
On September 23 2012 20:54 Repomies wrote:This 500 post requirement is ridiculous. I've visited TL almost everyday for longer than year now and I've even turned my addblock down just for you guys. But I'm not eligible for this discount because I haven't spammed threads with "interesting" "oh no " "best of luck" "gj!" type of meaningless post not contributing with anything. It's so much harder as a non native English speaker to actually contribute since I don't know how to properly express myself and my views or how to give advice. But nevertheless happy birthday TL and let's get back to this raffle when you turn 20!
I'm russian player and still have 2k posts, that are bigger than 2-3 letters
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On September 23 2012 20:54 Carnate wrote:
If you couldn't spam 500 posts you are less than human and not worthy of receiving something TL got for free. It's too important of a gift with give out to anyone who had been a member for years just for applying.
I like how all the people who have less than 500 posts are saying that anyone who has more has "clearly" spammed for every one of them. I have written short stories, upkeep a resource thread, have hosted a tournament and have given my input and help in various Q&A threads. Does that make you more deserving than me just because you've been here marginally longer? If you don't post much, then it's fair to say you don't contribute much to the community, so why should you get a key?
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Teamliquid is a forum-heavy content news site. Without people posting, there is a lot less content to bring in new users. Without content, you don't have people visiting. Without people visiting, you don't have a way to say "Look, advertisers, we can bring you a global audience in the key demographic of (primarily) males 18-35 with disposable income." Making quality posts makes TeamLiquid.net a great site for everyone.
So being a lurker helps in a number of ways, but TL is created (to a fair extent) by the people that post quality posts. (I'm not one of them; even this post is probably not good.) People lurking are great. People that post are wonderful. Would you lurk if no one posted?
(If you want to debate the key demographic thing, let's not. For that matter, if you are going to reply to this, just... don't.)
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It's astonishing how this thread got to 24 pages solely from people complaining about the minimum post count, people replying to those people, and the occasional person saying "Thank you TL."
It's just a game and it's just a beta. Seriously.
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On September 23 2012 21:01 kollin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2012 20:54 Carnate wrote:
If you couldn't spam 500 posts you are less than human and not worthy of receiving something TL got for free. It's too important of a gift with give out to anyone who had been a member for years just for applying. I like how all the people who have less than 500 posts are saying that anyone who has more has "clearly" spammed for every one of them. I have written short stories, upkeep a resource thread, have hosted a tournament and have given my input and help in various Q&A threads. Does that make you more deserving than me just because you've been here marginally longer? If you don't post much, then it's fair to say you don't contribute much to the community, so why should you get a key?
Let's see a few of your past posts. You may rate yourself, if these posts contributed anything, so that they make you worth participating in the raffle, where as someone who visited this website for few years more than you , doesn't.
On September 23 2012 19:24 kollin wrote:
1-0 Taeja.
On September 23 2012 18:36 kollin wrote:
Very nice casting this Dreamhack :D Really enjoying it so far!
On September 23 2012 17:59 kollin wrote:
Wow TheStc is looking so strong at the moment.
On September 23 2012 17:24 kollin wrote:
I think this might be it for Elfi. He has an upgrade disadvantage and TheStc's micro is so good I just don't think Elfi can break him.
On September 23 2012 17:21 kollin wrote:
God Vortix sooo gooood!
On September 23 2012 16:16 kollin wrote:
God this story is so good :D
On September 22 2012 18:59 kollin wrote:
Did violet go 2-1 both matches?
On September 22 2012 19:52 kollin wrote:
That lifting of the immortal by the phoenixes was so kickass. Reminds me of when grubby did that to a
On September 22 2012 22:49 kollin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2012 22:48 Fusilero wrote:
Demuslim vs poyo on jorosar (Ty bling's mom :p) Hey. She's British, so it's mum. Not mom :D
On September 23 2012 05:34 kollin wrote:
God that was an amazing game.
THANK YOU soooo much for contributing to the content on this website. You're posts really qualify you for this raffle. OMG! really...... and that's only in the past 2 days. are you kidding me`?
edit : so TL says this guy deserves a spot in the raffle more than anyone else. That's in fact a pretty clear statement made by TL.net and shows what direction TL.net wants to go in the future.
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On September 23 2012 21:09 ZwuckeL wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2012 21:01 kollin wrote:On September 23 2012 20:54 Carnate wrote:
If you couldn't spam 500 posts you are less than human and not worthy of receiving something TL got for free. It's too important of a gift with give out to anyone who had been a member for years just for applying. I like how all the people who have less than 500 posts are saying that anyone who has more has "clearly" spammed for every one of them. I have written short stories, upkeep a resource thread, have hosted a tournament and have given my input and help in various Q&A threads. Does that make you more deserving than me just because you've been here marginally longer? If you don't post much, then it's fair to say you don't contribute much to the community, so why should you get a key? Let's see a few of your past posts. You may rate yourself, if these posts contributed anything, so that they make you worth participating in the raffle, where as someone who visited this website for few years more than you , doesn't. Show nested quote +On September 23 2012 18:36 kollin wrote:
Very nice casting this Dreamhack :D Really enjoying it so far! Show nested quote +On September 23 2012 17:59 kollin wrote:
Wow TheStc is looking so strong at the moment. Show nested quote +On September 23 2012 17:24 kollin wrote:
I think this might be it for Elfi. He has an upgrade disadvantage and TheStc's micro is so good I just don't think Elfi can break him. Show nested quote +On September 22 2012 19:52 kollin wrote:
That lifting of the immortal by the phoenixes was so kickass. Reminds me of when grubby did that to a Show nested quote +On September 22 2012 22:49 kollin wrote:On September 22 2012 22:48 Fusilero wrote:
Demuslim vs poyo on jorosar (Ty bling's mom :p) Hey. She's British, so it's mum. Not mom :D THANK YOU soooo much for contributing to the content on this website. You're posts really qualify you for this raffle. OMG! really...... and that's only in the past 2 days. are you kidding me`? edit : so TL says this guy deserves a spot in the raffle more than anyone else. That's in fact a pretty clear statement made by TL.net and shows what direction TL.net wants to go in the future.
So, not 100% of my posts are thesises? So what? If I look at your posts they're not much better. Feliscolonori summed it up perfectly, without people posting, there aren't workers.
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On September 23 2012 21:16 kollin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2012 21:09 ZwuckeL wrote:On September 23 2012 21:01 kollin wrote:On September 23 2012 20:54 Carnate wrote:
If you couldn't spam 500 posts you are less than human and not worthy of receiving something TL got for free. It's too important of a gift with give out to anyone who had been a member for years just for applying. I like how all the people who have less than 500 posts are saying that anyone who has more has "clearly" spammed for every one of them. I have written short stories, upkeep a resource thread, have hosted a tournament and have given my input and help in various Q&A threads. Does that make you more deserving than me just because you've been here marginally longer? If you don't post much, then it's fair to say you don't contribute much to the community, so why should you get a key? Let's see a few of your past posts. You may rate yourself, if these posts contributed anything, so that they make you worth participating in the raffle, where as someone who visited this website for few years more than you , doesn't. On September 23 2012 19:24 kollin wrote:
1-0 Taeja. On September 23 2012 18:36 kollin wrote:
Very nice casting this Dreamhack :D Really enjoying it so far! On September 23 2012 17:59 kollin wrote:
Wow TheStc is looking so strong at the moment. On September 23 2012 17:24 kollin wrote:
I think this might be it for Elfi. He has an upgrade disadvantage and TheStc's micro is so good I just don't think Elfi can break him. On September 23 2012 17:21 kollin wrote:
God Vortix sooo gooood! On September 23 2012 16:16 kollin wrote:
God this story is so good :D On September 22 2012 18:59 kollin wrote:
Did violet go 2-1 both matches? On September 22 2012 19:52 kollin wrote:
That lifting of the immortal by the phoenixes was so kickass. Reminds me of when grubby did that to a On September 22 2012 22:49 kollin wrote:On September 22 2012 22:48 Fusilero wrote:
Demuslim vs poyo on jorosar (Ty bling's mom :p) Hey. She's British, so it's mum. Not mom :D On September 23 2012 05:34 kollin wrote:
God that was an amazing game. THANK YOU soooo much for contributing to the content on this website. You're posts really qualify you for this raffle. OMG! really...... and that's only in the past 2 days. are you kidding me`? edit : so TL says this guy deserves a spot in the raffle more than anyone else. That's in fact a pretty clear statement made by TL.net and shows what direction TL.net wants to go in the future. So, not 100% of my posts are thesises? So what? If I look at your posts they're not much better. Feliscolonori summed it up perfectly, without people posting, there aren't workers.
Found an interesting quote by you
On September 23 2012 16:38 kollin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2012 15:56 Meggiroth wrote:
So its a giveaway for spammers.
Cool stuff...... If you spam you get banned, so it's a giveaway for people who aren't awful posters and post regularly.
Well, we just stated that you are an aweful poster. So why do you qualify for the raffle, in your eyes?
edit. ok i've got also some stupid posts but we still differ that I am not defending this 500 raffle that previliges spammers. You are. And you think you deserve it which is ridicolous.
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On September 23 2012 21:19 ZwuckeL wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2012 21:16 kollin wrote:On September 23 2012 21:09 ZwuckeL wrote:On September 23 2012 21:01 kollin wrote:On September 23 2012 20:54 Carnate wrote:
If you couldn't spam 500 posts you are less than human and not worthy of receiving something TL got for free. It's too important of a gift with give out to anyone who had been a member for years just for applying. I like how all the people who have less than 500 posts are saying that anyone who has more has "clearly" spammed for every one of them. I have written short stories, upkeep a resource thread, have hosted a tournament and have given my input and help in various Q&A threads. Does that make you more deserving than me just because you've been here marginally longer? If you don't post much, then it's fair to say you don't contribute much to the community, so why should you get a key? Let's see a few of your past posts. You may rate yourself, if these posts contributed anything, so that they make you worth participating in the raffle, where as someone who visited this website for few years more than you , doesn't. On September 23 2012 19:24 kollin wrote:
1-0 Taeja. On September 23 2012 18:36 kollin wrote:
Very nice casting this Dreamhack :D Really enjoying it so far! On September 23 2012 17:59 kollin wrote:
Wow TheStc is looking so strong at the moment. On September 23 2012 17:24 kollin wrote:
I think this might be it for Elfi. He has an upgrade disadvantage and TheStc's micro is so good I just don't think Elfi can break him. On September 23 2012 17:21 kollin wrote:
God Vortix sooo gooood! On September 23 2012 16:16 kollin wrote:
God this story is so good :D On September 22 2012 18:59 kollin wrote:
Did violet go 2-1 both matches? On September 22 2012 19:52 kollin wrote:
That lifting of the immortal by the phoenixes was so kickass. Reminds me of when grubby did that to a On September 22 2012 22:49 kollin wrote:On September 22 2012 22:48 Fusilero wrote:
Demuslim vs poyo on jorosar (Ty bling's mom :p) Hey. She's British, so it's mum. Not mom :D On September 23 2012 05:34 kollin wrote:
God that was an amazing game. THANK YOU soooo much for contributing to the content on this website. You're posts really qualify you for this raffle. OMG! really...... and that's only in the past 2 days. are you kidding me`? edit : so TL says this guy deserves a spot in the raffle more than anyone else. That's in fact a pretty clear statement made by TL.net and shows what direction TL.net wants to go in the future. So, not 100% of my posts are thesises? So what? If I look at your posts they're not much better. Feliscolonori summed it up perfectly, without people posting, there aren't workers. Found an interesting quote by you Show nested quote +On September 23 2012 16:38 kollin wrote:On September 23 2012 15:56 Meggiroth wrote:
So its a giveaway for spammers.
Cool stuff...... If you spam you get banned, so it's a giveaway for people who aren't awful posters and post regularly. Well, we just stated that you are an aweful poster. So why do you qualify for the raffle, in your eyes? edit. ok i've got also some stupid posts but we still differ that I am not defending this 500 raffle that previliges spammers. You are. And you think you deserve it which is ridicolous.
I at no point said I was an awful poster. I said all my posts weren't necessarily amazing contributions. And neither am I saying I deserve this, what I am saying is that I deserve it more than lurkers. If you look at the things I have contributed, such as hosting tournaments, upkeeping resource threads etc, it comes to a hell of a lot more than that guy that posts 10 times a year.
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So much e-rage... I guess you guys can use it to get that post count up.
On a non-rage-related note; thanks for doing the give away TL.
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On September 23 2012 21:27 kollin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2012 21:19 ZwuckeL wrote:On September 23 2012 21:16 kollin wrote:On September 23 2012 21:09 ZwuckeL wrote:On September 23 2012 21:01 kollin wrote:On September 23 2012 20:54 Carnate wrote:
If you couldn't spam 500 posts you are less than human and not worthy of receiving something TL got for free. It's too important of a gift with give out to anyone who had been a member for years just for applying. I like how all the people who have less than 500 posts are saying that anyone who has more has "clearly" spammed for every one of them. I have written short stories, upkeep a resource thread, have hosted a tournament and have given my input and help in various Q&A threads. Does that make you more deserving than me just because you've been here marginally longer? If you don't post much, then it's fair to say you don't contribute much to the community, so why should you get a key? Let's see a few of your past posts. You may rate yourself, if these posts contributed anything, so that they make you worth participating in the raffle, where as someone who visited this website for few years more than you , doesn't. On September 23 2012 19:24 kollin wrote:
1-0 Taeja. On September 23 2012 18:36 kollin wrote:
Very nice casting this Dreamhack :D Really enjoying it so far! On September 23 2012 17:59 kollin wrote:
Wow TheStc is looking so strong at the moment. On September 23 2012 17:24 kollin wrote:
I think this might be it for Elfi. He has an upgrade disadvantage and TheStc's micro is so good I just don't think Elfi can break him. On September 23 2012 17:21 kollin wrote:
God Vortix sooo gooood! On September 23 2012 16:16 kollin wrote:
God this story is so good :D On September 22 2012 18:59 kollin wrote:
Did violet go 2-1 both matches? On September 22 2012 19:52 kollin wrote:
That lifting of the immortal by the phoenixes was so kickass. Reminds me of when grubby did that to a On September 22 2012 22:49 kollin wrote:On September 22 2012 22:48 Fusilero wrote:
Demuslim vs poyo on jorosar (Ty bling's mom :p) Hey. She's British, so it's mum. Not mom :D On September 23 2012 05:34 kollin wrote:
God that was an amazing game. THANK YOU soooo much for contributing to the content on this website. You're posts really qualify you for this raffle. OMG! really...... and that's only in the past 2 days. are you kidding me`? edit : so TL says this guy deserves a spot in the raffle more than anyone else. That's in fact a pretty clear statement made by TL.net and shows what direction TL.net wants to go in the future. So, not 100% of my posts are thesises? So what? If I look at your posts they're not much better. Feliscolonori summed it up perfectly, without people posting, there aren't workers. Found an interesting quote by you On September 23 2012 16:38 kollin wrote:On September 23 2012 15:56 Meggiroth wrote:
So its a giveaway for spammers.
Cool stuff...... If you spam you get banned, so it's a giveaway for people who aren't awful posters and post regularly. Well, we just stated that you are an aweful poster. So why do you qualify for the raffle, in your eyes? edit. ok i've got also some stupid posts but we still differ that I am not defending this 500 raffle that previliges spammers. You are. And you think you deserve it which is ridicolous. I at no point said I was an awful poster. I said all my posts weren't necessarily amazing contributions. And neither am I saying I deserve this, what I am saying is that I deserve it more than lurkers. If you look at the things I have contributed, such as hosting tournaments, upkeeping resource threads etc, it comes to a hell of a lot more than that guy that posts 10 times a year.
You still don't get my point.
If this raffle would only include marked quality posters I'd have no problem at all. That would have to be earned.
Most of the people with more than 500 posts don't differ from the standard lurker with 50 posts.
As I've found out above, about 90% of your posts are one-liners. So if you substract 90% of your posts, that would leave you with 90 post. Maybe 180posts if we are generous. And thus not deserving your raffle entry.
Spamming content-less one-liners instead of just reading should not be rewarded in a way like this.
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On September 23 2012 21:30 ZwuckeL wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2012 21:27 kollin wrote:On September 23 2012 21:19 ZwuckeL wrote:On September 23 2012 21:16 kollin wrote:On September 23 2012 21:09 ZwuckeL wrote:On September 23 2012 21:01 kollin wrote:On September 23 2012 20:54 Carnate wrote:
If you couldn't spam 500 posts you are less than human and not worthy of receiving something TL got for free. It's too important of a gift with give out to anyone who had been a member for years just for applying. I like how all the people who have less than 500 posts are saying that anyone who has more has "clearly" spammed for every one of them. I have written short stories, upkeep a resource thread, have hosted a tournament and have given my input and help in various Q&A threads. Does that make you more deserving than me just because you've been here marginally longer? If you don't post much, then it's fair to say you don't contribute much to the community, so why should you get a key? Let's see a few of your past posts. You may rate yourself, if these posts contributed anything, so that they make you worth participating in the raffle, where as someone who visited this website for few years more than you , doesn't. On September 23 2012 19:24 kollin wrote:
1-0 Taeja. On September 23 2012 18:36 kollin wrote:
Very nice casting this Dreamhack :D Really enjoying it so far! On September 23 2012 17:59 kollin wrote:
Wow TheStc is looking so strong at the moment. On September 23 2012 17:24 kollin wrote:
I think this might be it for Elfi. He has an upgrade disadvantage and TheStc's micro is so good I just don't think Elfi can break him. On September 23 2012 17:21 kollin wrote:
God Vortix sooo gooood! On September 23 2012 16:16 kollin wrote:
God this story is so good :D On September 22 2012 18:59 kollin wrote:
Did violet go 2-1 both matches? On September 22 2012 19:52 kollin wrote:
That lifting of the immortal by the phoenixes was so kickass. Reminds me of when grubby did that to a On September 22 2012 22:49 kollin wrote:On September 22 2012 22:48 Fusilero wrote:
Demuslim vs poyo on jorosar (Ty bling's mom :p) Hey. She's British, so it's mum. Not mom :D On September 23 2012 05:34 kollin wrote:
God that was an amazing game. THANK YOU soooo much for contributing to the content on this website. You're posts really qualify you for this raffle. OMG! really...... and that's only in the past 2 days. are you kidding me`? edit : so TL says this guy deserves a spot in the raffle more than anyone else. That's in fact a pretty clear statement made by TL.net and shows what direction TL.net wants to go in the future. So, not 100% of my posts are thesises? So what? If I look at your posts they're not much better. Feliscolonori summed it up perfectly, without people posting, there aren't workers. Found an interesting quote by you On September 23 2012 16:38 kollin wrote:On September 23 2012 15:56 Meggiroth wrote:
So its a giveaway for spammers.
Cool stuff...... If you spam you get banned, so it's a giveaway for people who aren't awful posters and post regularly. Well, we just stated that you are an aweful poster. So why do you qualify for the raffle, in your eyes? edit. ok i've got also some stupid posts but we still differ that I am not defending this 500 raffle that previliges spammers. You are. And you think you deserve it which is ridicolous. I at no point said I was an awful poster. I said all my posts weren't necessarily amazing contributions. And neither am I saying I deserve this, what I am saying is that I deserve it more than lurkers. If you look at the things I have contributed, such as hosting tournaments, upkeeping resource threads etc, it comes to a hell of a lot more than that guy that posts 10 times a year. You still don't get my point. If this raffle would only include marked quality posters I'd have no problem at all. That would have to be earned. Most of the people with more than 500 posts don't differ from the standard lurker with 50 posts. As I've found out above, about 90% of your posts are one-liners. So if you substract 90% of your posts, that would leave you with 90 post. Maybe 180posts if we are generous. And thus not deserving your raffle entry. Spamming content-less one-liners instead of just reading should not be rewarded in a way like this.
Because seeing the past 10 of my 950 posts clearly denotes me as an awful poster. This is a silly argument, and the fact only people with over 500 posts are getting keys will not be changed.
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On September 23 2012 19:07 dextrin303 wrote:But I'm sad for the hoodies, I'm still waiting for euro store
Me too! At least I made 512 posts before seeing this announcement 
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Well here's my entry I suppose. GL to everyone
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It's crazy that so many people are complaining about this. It's not like they are giving away a million dollars or anything, it's just a beta key. I would think more people would be grateful they are on such a great site as TL and would not complain about peoples' chances of getting a gift just because they don't meet the requirements. Stop acting so spoiled, selfish, and entitled, and be grateful for TL. Here's to hoping this thread is filled with a vocal minority.
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