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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6322 Posts
October 23 2025 11:00 GMT
#1841
Ajax is a disaster once again this season. As is my local FC. Terrible football year.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8925 Posts
October 25 2025 18:29 GMT
#1842
dont know what came over united but other than the set piece defending we looked absolutely nothing like the amorim teams we had been seeing. easily the best performance under amorim so far
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1451 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-27 11:30:04
October 27 2025 10:33 GMT
#1843
On October 26 2025 03:29 evilfatsh1t wrote:
dont know what came over united but other than the set piece defending we looked absolutely nothing like the amorim teams we had been seeing. easily the best performance under amorim so far

Michael Carrick provided some good analysis on Match of the Day on the importance of Luke Shaw's positional work during the game. A basic summary is that Luke Shaw was proactively pushing into the midfield to prevent the overloads that we've been punished by during other games this season.

We may have been playing a 3-4-3 on paper, but it was more like a 4-3-3 in practice.

EDIT:

Casemiro's goal is a great example of just how high up the pitch Shaw was willing/allowed to press.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18749 Posts
October 28 2025 08:13 GMT
#1844
So I keep reading that Liverpool's bad form shouldn't be a surprise as the form has been dipping since around March?

If that is true then why is no one doing anything at the club? Slot seems to need some help. Get some other coaches into the team!
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1451 Posts
October 28 2025 08:39 GMT
#1845
Brendan Rodgers has resigned as Celtic manager, and the Celtic owner has put out a very caustic statement regarding it.

I knew that Celtic hadn't had a great start to the season, but this still comes as a surprise to me, though I must admit that I don't really keep a close eye on Scottish football.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18749 Posts
October 28 2025 09:50 GMT
#1846
I just checked the table after reading the news yesterday and I gotta say this one is deserved.
Sorry to say but as Celtic or Rangers manager your goal number 1 is being #1 and #2 by a big point lead.
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1451 Posts
October 28 2025 10:01 GMT
#1847
On October 28 2025 18:50 sharkie wrote:
I just checked the table after reading the news yesterday and I gotta say this one is deserved.
Sorry to say but as Celtic or Rangers manager your goal number 1 is being #1 and #2 by a big point lead.

I didn't realise the gap at the top was so large. I figured Celtic would only be a couple of points off the top.

If Celtic don't manage to turn their season around, this could be the first time that a team other than the Old Firm wins the Scottish league since Sir Alex was in charge of Aberdeen.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9999 Posts
October 28 2025 10:31 GMT
#1848
On October 28 2025 17:39 MJG wrote:
Brendan Rodgers has resigned as Celtic manager, and the Celtic owner has put out a very caustic statement regarding it.

I knew that Celtic hadn't had a great start to the season, but this still comes as a surprise to me, though I must admit that I don't really keep a close eye on Scottish football.

I heard rumours of Rodgers regularly playing golf while the team is training and basically being absent as a manager.

Which is fine when you're winning every game I guess, but they are dropping further behind Hearts every week.
RIP Meatloaf <3
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51693 Posts
October 28 2025 11:34 GMT
#1849
On October 28 2025 19:01 MJG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2025 18:50 sharkie wrote:
I just checked the table after reading the news yesterday and I gotta say this one is deserved.
Sorry to say but as Celtic or Rangers manager your goal number 1 is being #1 and #2 by a big point lead.

I didn't realise the gap at the top was so large. I figured Celtic would only be a couple of points off the top.

If Celtic don't manage to turn their season around, this could be the first time that a team other than the Old Firm wins the Scottish league since Sir Alex was in charge of Aberdeen.


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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27387 Posts
October 28 2025 12:48 GMT
#1850
On October 28 2025 17:13 sharkie wrote:
So I keep reading that Liverpool's bad form shouldn't be a surprise as the form has been dipping since around March?

If that is true then why is no one doing anything at the club? Slot seems to need some help. Get some other coaches into the team!

Mikel Arteta is pretty busy!

On October 28 2025 19:01 MJG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2025 18:50 sharkie wrote:
I just checked the table after reading the news yesterday and I gotta say this one is deserved.
Sorry to say but as Celtic or Rangers manager your goal number 1 is being #1 and #2 by a big point lead.

I didn't realise the gap at the top was so large. I figured Celtic would only be a couple of points off the top.

If Celtic don't manage to turn their season around, this could be the first time that a team other than the Old Firm wins the Scottish league since Sir Alex was in charge of Aberdeen.

40 years, it’s pretty mental!

We have had years where a team opens a decent gap, but it’s hard to maintain because the SPL splits in two and you have to play the big boys again. Even if the big boys start slowly, they’ve got extra chances to claw it back.

It’d be great to see, Hearts are under the Tony Bloom umbrella, he of Brighton fame. I don’t follow the SPL too closely myself, so I don’t know if it’s recruitment wizardry or what, but they’re on a tear.

Celtic, idk if it was recoverable on the pitch with Rodgers, but it appears that off the pitch his relationship with the board was untenable

Sky Sports’ Breakdown. it’s pretty stunning stuff. Usually even if there has been a breakdown in relations, you usually get the generic best wishes and good luck statement.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1451 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-28 13:01:13
October 28 2025 13:00 GMT
#1851
On October 28 2025 21:48 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2025 19:01 MJG wrote:
On October 28 2025 18:50 sharkie wrote:
I just checked the table after reading the news yesterday and I gotta say this one is deserved.
Sorry to say but as Celtic or Rangers manager your goal number 1 is being #1 and #2 by a big point lead.

I didn't realise the gap at the top was so large. I figured Celtic would only be a couple of points off the top.

If Celtic don't manage to turn their season around, this could be the first time that a team other than the Old Firm wins the Scottish league since Sir Alex was in charge of Aberdeen.

40 years, it’s pretty mental!

We have had years where a team opens a decent gap, but it’s hard to maintain because the SPL splits in two and you have to play the big boys again. Even if the big boys start slowly, they’ve got extra chances to claw it back.

It’d be great to see, Hearts are under the Tony Bloom umbrella, he of Brighton fame. I don’t follow the SPL too closely myself, so I don’t know if it’s recruitment wizardry or what, but they’re on a tear.

Celtic, idk if it was recoverable on the pitch with Rodgers, but it appears that off the pitch his relationship with the board was untenable

Sky Sports’ Breakdown. it’s pretty stunning stuff. Usually even if there has been a breakdown in relations, you usually get the generic best wishes and good luck statement.

The BBC reporters (or somebody they were quoting) described the Celtic owner as going "thermonuclear" in his open letter, which isn't a bad description. If nothing else, it's an astounding attempt at character assassination.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27387 Posts
October 28 2025 13:07 GMT
#1852
On October 28 2025 22:00 MJG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2025 21:48 WombaT wrote:
On October 28 2025 19:01 MJG wrote:
On October 28 2025 18:50 sharkie wrote:
I just checked the table after reading the news yesterday and I gotta say this one is deserved.
Sorry to say but as Celtic or Rangers manager your goal number 1 is being #1 and #2 by a big point lead.

I didn't realise the gap at the top was so large. I figured Celtic would only be a couple of points off the top.

If Celtic don't manage to turn their season around, this could be the first time that a team other than the Old Firm wins the Scottish league since Sir Alex was in charge of Aberdeen.

40 years, it’s pretty mental!

We have had years where a team opens a decent gap, but it’s hard to maintain because the SPL splits in two and you have to play the big boys again. Even if the big boys start slowly, they’ve got extra chances to claw it back.

It’d be great to see, Hearts are under the Tony Bloom umbrella, he of Brighton fame. I don’t follow the SPL too closely myself, so I don’t know if it’s recruitment wizardry or what, but they’re on a tear.

Celtic, idk if it was recoverable on the pitch with Rodgers, but it appears that off the pitch his relationship with the board was untenable

Sky Sports’ Breakdown. it’s pretty stunning stuff. Usually even if there has been a breakdown in relations, you usually get the generic best wishes and good luck statement.

The BBC reporters (or somebody they were quoting) described the Celtic owner as going "thermonuclear" in his open letter, which isn't a bad description. If nothing else, it's an astounding attempt at character assassination.

It’s either that, or it’s true.

Either way, part of why they seemingly choose this particular route was that the fans were giving the board tons of shit, over and above Rodgers. So it’s probably an attempt to reframe that.

If it’s not true it’s deeply dishonest and harsh on Rodgers, if it is true I can’t really blame em. It must be very frustrating indeed to be getting booed and the blame based partly on what Rodgers has said if he wasn’t honest about it
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18749 Posts
October 28 2025 13:10 GMT
#1853
Since I was called out: some positivity from me for once!

Arsenal are doing wonders now! Arteta seems to have solved football at the moment. We are not conceding any chances, let alone goals or shots on target. And our set piece strength is just out of this world. It's ugly but as long as we are getting the 3 points every weekend I am all for it! With Liverpool and City really struggling at the moment this will finally be our year!
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27387 Posts
October 28 2025 14:42 GMT
#1854
On October 28 2025 22:10 sharkie wrote:
Since I was called out: some positivity from me for once!

Arsenal are doing wonders now! Arteta seems to have solved football at the moment. We are not conceding any chances, let alone goals or shots on target. And our set piece strength is just out of this world. It's ugly but as long as we are getting the 3 points every weekend I am all for it! With Liverpool and City really struggling at the moment this will finally be our year!

Yeah, it’s scary for the league to think what happens if Arsenal’s attack fully clicks. But they’ve definitely solved problems, they’ve had pretty notable injuries, but unlike last season it’s not hugely dragging them down. The defence was already excellent, now it’s crazy, at least in terms of the numbers, not just goals conceded, they’re not even conceding many shots from dangerous positions as you say.

Yeah you nailed it, I think one of the biggest factors could simply be you’re probably not looking at a season where 90+ points are needed to win the league, and if anyone is looking a candidate it’s Arsenal themselves.

I think the new signings have started pretty well, but they’re surely just going to get better the more they’re used to Arteta’s demands and familiar with their team mates too.

If they can get the ball to Gyokeres more frequently in danger zones, and he can be just a little quicker in executing in a league where you’ve less time, that’ll turn some of these tight games decided by a set piece into more comfortable 2-3 goal wins.

That helps a lot, you don’t have to go 100% holding on to slender leads, gives more room for rotation or using the subs bench as well.

Then if you can grind out narrow wins or draws in the big games and you’re probably good to go.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1451 Posts
October 29 2025 10:55 GMT
#1855
On October 28 2025 22:07 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2025 22:00 MJG wrote:
On October 28 2025 21:48 WombaT wrote:
On October 28 2025 19:01 MJG wrote:
On October 28 2025 18:50 sharkie wrote:
I just checked the table after reading the news yesterday and I gotta say this one is deserved.
Sorry to say but as Celtic or Rangers manager your goal number 1 is being #1 and #2 by a big point lead.

I didn't realise the gap at the top was so large. I figured Celtic would only be a couple of points off the top.

If Celtic don't manage to turn their season around, this could be the first time that a team other than the Old Firm wins the Scottish league since Sir Alex was in charge of Aberdeen.

40 years, it’s pretty mental!

We have had years where a team opens a decent gap, but it’s hard to maintain because the SPL splits in two and you have to play the big boys again. Even if the big boys start slowly, they’ve got extra chances to claw it back.

It’d be great to see, Hearts are under the Tony Bloom umbrella, he of Brighton fame. I don’t follow the SPL too closely myself, so I don’t know if it’s recruitment wizardry or what, but they’re on a tear.

Celtic, idk if it was recoverable on the pitch with Rodgers, but it appears that off the pitch his relationship with the board was untenable

Sky Sports’ Breakdown. it’s pretty stunning stuff. Usually even if there has been a breakdown in relations, you usually get the generic best wishes and good luck statement.

The BBC reporters (or somebody they were quoting) described the Celtic owner as going "thermonuclear" in his open letter, which isn't a bad description. If nothing else, it's an astounding attempt at character assassination.

It’s either that, or it’s true.

Either way, part of why they seemingly choose this particular route was that the fans were giving the board tons of shit, over and above Rodgers. So it’s probably an attempt to reframe that.

If it’s not true it’s deeply dishonest and harsh on Rodgers, if it is true I can’t really blame em. It must be very frustrating indeed to be getting booed and the blame based partly on what Rodgers has said if he wasn’t honest about it

The BBC broke down the statement put out by the Celtic owner paragraph-by-paragraph.

If you're interested in that sort of thing then it's here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cze6r1yd31po

Like I said before, I'm not normally all that interested in Scottish football because the league often turns into a procession, but all this drama could make things very interesting for the remainder of the season.
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MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1451 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-30 12:59:46
October 30 2025 12:12 GMT
#1856
On October 28 2025 17:13 sharkie wrote:
So I keep reading that Liverpool's bad form shouldn't be a surprise as the form has been dipping since around March?

If that is true then why is no one doing anything at the club? Slot seems to need some help. Get some other coaches into the team!

I just saw this analysis about the idea that Liverpool have been slumping for a while:

The consensus from many is that Liverpool's poor form began at the start of the 2025-26 season.

But the stats show that it actually started long before the first whistle in August.

The real turning point seems to be that defeat by Paris St-Germain in last season's Champions League.

Form prior to PSG defeat:

Games: 45
Wins: 34
Draws: 7
Losses 4
Win %: 75.6
Goals per game: 2.3
Goals conceded per game: 0.8

Form since (and including) PSG defeat:

Games: 26
Wins: 12
Draws: 3
Losses: 11
Win %: 46.2
Goals per game: 1.8
Goals conceded per game: 1.6

The stats are quite compelling.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18749 Posts
October 30 2025 12:49 GMT
#1857
Sheesh. This totally looks like that Slot's style was figured out by everyone and the title win totally overshadowed it... There was nothing done in the summer to keep evolving.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8925 Posts
October 30 2025 14:00 GMT
#1858
i wouldnt say spendiny 400m is "nothing done" lol
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4436 Posts
October 30 2025 14:29 GMT
#1859
Yeah it's increasingly looking like 400m very poorly spent.

Ekitike has been good. Otherwise...

Kerkez has been poor
Wirtz has been poor
Isak has been poor
Frimpong has been injured the whole time

Meanwhile Diaz is destroying in the Bundesliga
Could really use Quansah, Tsimikas and Nat Phillips as defensive cover right now too
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18749 Posts
October 30 2025 14:36 GMT
#1860
I still don't get why Liverpool went ahead with Isak when they saw that Ekitike seems to be real deal? (Great start to the season) and then skimping money on Marc Guehi...

With Wirtz most of us at least know he will become great. With or without Liverpool. He keeps showing great sparks. The others are just poor
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