EPTHowever the referee still didn't give a penalty, he said 'the attacker initiated the confrontation' and gave a goal kick.
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28875 Posts
However the referee still didn't give a penalty, he said 'the attacker initiated the confrontation' and gave a goal kick. | ||
FlaShFTW
United States10530 Posts
On June 25 2026 21:45 sharkie wrote: Well the two big wrong calls were Messi not getting a red card in the Algeria game and Ghana not getting a penalty vs England. Two big decisions for two smaller teams Lol you're still on the Messi tackle when there are far more red card worthy challenges this tournament. Bias much? Egypt had a clear scissor tackle from behind early in their game against Belgium. No card, so the call benefitted the "smaller" team. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8916 Posts
On June 25 2026 20:01 GTR wrote: awaiting the inevitable evilfatsh1t korea sucks rant nah im too pissed off to even rant about it. the kfa needs to be thrown the fuck out asap | ||
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Bacillus
Finland2077 Posts
Once again I just wish they'd talk through the logic on the more controversial calls that there would be at least some kind of learning process on how you end up with some of these outcomes. Some of them could be pretty sound in some weird way, but we'll rarely get the insight. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18400 Posts
On June 23 2026 22:45 Liquid`Drone wrote: Our defense is def our weak spot. They're ok at defending crosses and blocking shots but they are poor against quick combinations and overall, they're just not very fast. For that reason I think I'd prefer facing Germany, I think vini Jr in form crushes them. However havertz I think they could handle just fine. No question our offensive players are much better. Ajer is decent, Ryerson is good, but LB, GK and the other CB is where we are mediocre. German defense looks pretty horrific. Ecuador is really bad at finishing, but put a Haaland up there and it'd be 5-1. Not sure why I thought they drew against Cote D'Ivoire. They won that, so they were already guaranteed first place. Still, that was a very unscary showing. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9958 Posts
That is absolutely insane. Forest writing their name in the transfer record history books again, after Francis, Keane and Collymore. I can't see how he's worth that much tbh. Extremely good player but is he next Zidane? I'd say probably not. | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28875 Posts
The Sweden Japan nld Tunisia group is fun. Winning the group looks attractive (tough first game vs morocco, easiest game after with Canada or South africa), so nld and japan both have incentives to win big. Sweden however needs to not lose by several. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18400 Posts
On June 26 2026 07:45 Liquid`Drone wrote: Happy for Ecuador! Was thinking for a while that they look like the best team that'll get knocked out in the group stage. They were unlucky in the first two games too. The Sweden Japan nld Tunisia group is fun. Winning the group looks attractive (tough first game vs morocco, easiest game after with Canada or South africa), so nld and japan both have incentives to win big. Sweden however needs to not lose by several. You're right. Now just need Norway to kick France to second place. We haven't beaten France in a long time and Mbappe is on fire. Also that sets up the grudge match for best Scandinavian team, which would be epic. | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6305 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8916 Posts
On June 26 2026 07:12 Jockmcplop wrote: £116m for Anderson, with no sell-on fee to Newcastle. That is absolutely insane. Forest writing their name in the transfer record history books again, after Francis, Keane and Collymore. I can't see how he's worth that much tbh. Extremely good player but is he next Zidane? I'd say probably not. you mean city. glad united stopped pursuing anderson the moment forest demanded over 100m. straight up highway robbery. speaking of conspiracies, yet another big team gets away with a call that should have been ruled out by var. sanes goal had a high foot in the build up that actually contacted the opponents face. its either they are straight up favouring big teams to stay in the tournament, or a lesser conspiracy where they are calling less fouls across the board maybe to change the image of football in america as being soft. ive definitely noticed a lot less fouls being called in games so i could see the latter being something fifa set up tbh. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18400 Posts
On June 26 2026 13:19 evilfatsh1t wrote: you mean city. glad united stopped pursuing anderson the moment forest demanded over 100m. straight up highway robbery. speaking of conspiracies, yet another big team gets away with a call that should have been ruled out by var. sanes goal had a high foot in the build up that actually contacted the opponents face. its either they are straight up favouring big teams to stay in the tournament, or a lesser conspiracy where they are calling less fouls across the board maybe to change the image of football in america as being soft. ive definitely noticed a lot less fouls being called in games so i could see the latter being something fifa set up tbh. Is that a "FIFA is doing that" thing? Or just the norm in parts of the world? I've lived in Brazil and watched my share of South American football. Fewer fouls definitely get called there, especially of the dangerous play variety: if you hit the ball then the action is usually just counted as fair. I just assumed it was that: some very hard tackles have gone completely unpunished, as long as they get the ball. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8916 Posts
im inclined to think that because the referees for the world cup come from all over the world, they are probably given some directive from fifa as to what kind of standard they should be making calls to. otherwise you would obviously expect a lot of inconsistencies depending on which league the referee usually works in. also the fact that regardless of league, there is an even higher display of leniency this world cup compared to what ive seen before imo. with the hydration breaks already being an obvious accommodation for US fans, it wouldnt surprise me if fifa has taken another step to make the sport more appealing to the US by making it seem "tougher". anti football fans across the world generally see footballers as soft primadonnas who cry at the slightest contact (and theyre not exactly wrong), so i could see the logic in fifa doing that | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9958 Posts
On June 26 2026 13:19 evilfatsh1t wrote: you mean city. glad united stopped pursuing anderson the moment forest demanded over 100m. straight up highway robbery. Hey if City insist on doing a deal with EM, they're gonna get robbed. It was unbelievable we managed to get Anderson from Newcastle in the deal we got to begin with. Sure, we paid £35m, but we sent an absolutely useless pointless keeper (our 4th choice keeper) their way at the same time for £20m so really we paid £15m for Anderson. Now that's how you make money. Marinakis just took three times the amount he paid for our club. | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28875 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18400 Posts
On June 26 2026 16:21 evilfatsh1t wrote: well its definitely not the norm in america, based on the limited amount of mls games ive seen. i dont think the officiating in mls was drastically different from european countries at least. im inclined to think that because the referees for the world cup come from all over the world, they are probably given some directive from fifa as to what kind of standard they should be making calls to. otherwise you would obviously expect a lot of inconsistencies depending on which league the referee usually works in. also the fact that regardless of league, there is an even higher display of leniency this world cup compared to what ive seen before imo. with the hydration breaks already being an obvious accommodation for US fans, it wouldnt surprise me if fifa has taken another step to make the sport more appealing to the US by making it seem "tougher". anti football fans across the world generally see footballers as soft primadonnas who cry at the slightest contact (and theyre not exactly wrong), so i could see the logic in fifa doing that In what world are the hydration breaks an accommodation to US fans? Have you listened to the stadium every time they happen?! Those aren't just the foreigners booing the shit out of FIFA! It isn't an accommodation to fans, it's an accommodation to TV channels and sponsors. Anyway, I didn't mean to imply that FIFA didn't give specific instructions to the referees. They obviously did: the 5-second countdown for throw-ins and how to use VAR are obvious examples. I wouldn't be surprised if those instructions also included guidelines on how to call fouls (in fact, I'd be surprised if they didn't). But that doesn't make it some FIFA conspiracy to make football seem tougher. It might just be a general consensus by referees worldwide on how to keep the speed in the game in a world with VAR. I noticed referees waiting longer to give advantage, and a bunch of other things, in addition to rougher play being allowed that make there be less interference in general play. I've also seen that lead to some escalation and nastiness in the field, so I'm not as clear in my opinion of that as a positive development. But it does generally lead to less dead balls and related slowdowns. | ||
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Slydie
1998 Posts
I have probably followed the NFL than soccer for many years, so I see where the "accomodation to US fans" is coming from. The NFL is spammed with possible commercial breaks: quarters, halves, 2 minute warnings, time outs, replay checks... but yeah, they are obviously for the $$$, but US fans are more used to it. A complete NFL broadcast is unwatchable for most Europeans. I hope soccer does not move in that direction! | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8916 Posts
On June 26 2026 16:58 Acrofales wrote: In what world are the hydration breaks an accommodation to US fans? Have you listened to the stadium every time they happen?! Those aren't just the foreigners booing the shit out of FIFA! It isn't an accommodation to fans, it's an accommodation to TV channels and sponsors. Anyway, I didn't mean to imply that FIFA didn't give specific instructions to the referees. They obviously did: the 5-second countdown for throw-ins and how to use VAR are obvious examples. I wouldn't be surprised if those instructions also included guidelines on how to call fouls (in fact, I'd be surprised if they didn't). But that doesn't make it some FIFA conspiracy to make football seem tougher. It might just be a general consensus by referees worldwide on how to keep the speed in the game in a world with VAR. I noticed referees waiting longer to give advantage, and a bunch of other things, in addition to rougher play being allowed that make there be less interference in general play. I've also seen that lead to some escalation and nastiness in the field, so I'm not as clear in my opinion of that as a positive development. But it does generally lead to less dead balls and related slowdowns. maybe fans wasnt the right word, obviously no football fan actually likes to see hydration breaks. in any case, the addition of these breaks obviously had US influence. and i say "lesser conspiracy" because its one thing to direct referees to be more lenient with 50/50s or softer contact fouls. its another for extremely blatant calls such as the various penalty incidents, or yesterdays high foot incident to be ignored by var. none of those fouls get a pass by any standard of reasonable leniency according to usual football rules, so the fact that multiple have been straight up ignored leaves me to suggest that theres a stronger directive maybe to make football seem like an even heavier contact sport than it should be. or maybe the other conspiracy that the big nations are just getting all the favours is still true. who knows | ||
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r00ty
Germany1083 Posts
I'm torn about the hydration breaks, when it's not above 30°C. A good coaching staff being able to freely and calmly talk to the whole team for a couple of minutes mid half changes the game. I mean it's fair, but communication mid game is part of the challenge. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7347 Posts
On June 26 2026 13:19 evilfatsh1t wrote: speaking of conspiracies, yet another big team gets away with a call that should have been ruled out by var. sanes goal had a high foot in the build up that actually contacted the opponents face. its either they are straight up favouring big teams to stay in the tournament, or a lesser conspiracy where they are calling less fouls across the board maybe to change the image of football in america as being soft. ive definitely noticed a lot less fouls being called in games so i could see the latter being something fifa set up tbh. That first goal could have definitely been called off. It looked kinda weird because Pavlovics foot played the ball and then seconds later came the header against the foot. Pretty weak and unexcuseable showing from Germany. Not worried about France or Norway because playing like this we'll never get by the Ro32 anyway. | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28875 Posts
South Korea vs Spain and Italy back in 2002? Totally. This isn't that. | ||
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