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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
July 10 2024 20:07 GMT
#3221
On July 11 2024 04:50 KobraKay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2024 04:38 WombaT wrote:
On July 11 2024 04:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
...what? Veerman?

England are absolutely brutalising the midfield, I think the Dutch have to do something to at least get some handle on it


It worked, england danger level went down a lot.

Still had the ball but back to the outside passing without much, specially as kane is never where he is supposed to xD

Yeah I think Cowman made a good choice in hindsight, and we now have weghorst as well so we're good.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25851 Posts
July 10 2024 20:07 GMT
#3222
It would be very typical England if the one game they actually play well in be the one they get sucker-punched :p

That said while they did look the better side by a decent margin first half, they haven’t really created a huge amount of good chances either
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2584 Posts
July 10 2024 20:14 GMT
#3223
I am sitting in a pub with obviously biased england fans and they all were super sure its a pen, I think the way from shot to the block was a bit short, Kane would need to stop the shot movement.

But it is what it is, nice chances for both sides.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
July 10 2024 20:18 GMT
#3224
Funnily enough the result I would hate most is if we won on penalties somehow. Our coach believes they're a lottery and denied help from a professor who studied PK's for two decades.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
July 10 2024 20:33 GMT
#3225
On July 11 2024 05:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Funnily enough the result I would hate most is if we won on penalties somehow. Our coach believes they're a lottery and denied help from a professor who studied PK's for two decades.

Well, it is not a secret that you have a terrible coach. Clear penalty btw. as a neutral observer.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9706 Posts
July 10 2024 20:50 GMT
#3226
Watkins!!!!!
RIP Meatloaf <3
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
July 10 2024 20:51 GMT
#3227
Palmer to Watkins!

Southgate GOAT confirmed?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 10 2024 20:52 GMT
#3228
lmao and people on reddit were shitting on southgate for subbing in Watkins over Toney
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9706 Posts
July 10 2024 20:52 GMT
#3229
On July 11 2024 05:52 Shellshock wrote:
lmao and people on reddit were shitting on southgate for subbing in Watkins over Toney

People will shit on Southgate no matter what he does lol
RIP Meatloaf <3
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3983 Posts
July 10 2024 20:52 GMT
#3230
Nice goal. Can English players please stop falling over? Vvd even got carded when he did nothing
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
July 10 2024 20:53 GMT
#3231
Is it coming home after all? :D
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
July 10 2024 20:55 GMT
#3232
Oh well. At least that makes the term "golden generation" even more hilarious.
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2584 Posts
July 10 2024 20:56 GMT
#3233
England deserved it more this game, was better than the snoozefest I expected!
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
July 10 2024 20:57 GMT
#3234
F

Grats to England on their second place finish.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18084 Posts
July 10 2024 21:16 GMT
#3235
Well, that was bullshit. I guess overall, England was probably the stronger team, but the goal kinda came out of nowhere and I was getting ready for extension
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
July 10 2024 21:17 GMT
#3236
On July 11 2024 06:16 Acrofales wrote:
Well, that was bullshit. I guess overall, England was probably the stronger team, but the goal kinda came out of nowhere and I was getting ready for extension


Oh hey, we were also fully ready for pens in our QF ^.^
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10212 Posts
July 10 2024 22:08 GMT
#3237
On July 11 2024 05:52 aseq wrote:
Nice goal. Can English players please stop falling over? Vvd even got carded when he did nothing

VVD got carded for arguing because the ref blew a corner for Netherlands and instead awarded a goal kick to England.

Southgate can't keep getting away with this. Actually, he managed a fine game today and England played quite well with Walker getting more active and Trippier and Saka holding the width. Amazing how things change when you bring some balance to your squad.

Underperformers this game were Bellingham and Rice for me in the midfield. Felt quite lackluster and invisible. Mainoo carried the midfield today, what a player and so young.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51486 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-07-11 00:44:01
July 11 2024 00:32 GMT
#3238
southgate really should drop kane - he's been an absolute passenger these knock-outs.

time for celebration?
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25851 Posts
July 11 2024 02:05 GMT
#3239
On July 11 2024 07:08 FlaShFTW wrote:
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On July 11 2024 05:52 aseq wrote:
Nice goal. Can English players please stop falling over? Vvd even got carded when he did nothing

VVD got carded for arguing because the ref blew a corner for Netherlands and instead awarded a goal kick to England.

Southgate can't keep getting away with this. Actually, he managed a fine game today and England played quite well with Walker getting more active and Trippier and Saka holding the width. Amazing how things change when you bring some balance to your squad.

Underperformers this game were Bellingham and Rice for me in the midfield. Felt quite lackluster and invisible. Mainoo carried the midfield today, what a player and so young.

Bellingham definitely faded a lot but he had a pretty good first half at least IMO, and Rice was solid enough, if unspectacular. 6 or a 7/10 for me. Which I suppose is underperforming versus their best.

I did say earlier in this very thread that if the England team stepped it up to merely average a 7/10, and a few of their top players really brought their A game that’s enough to have a big swing in performance, it’s all you really need in most international games if you have the kind of quality an England do.

I think that’s pretty much what we saw today, everyone was solid at least and Foden and Mainoo were excellent. Kane was probably the worst performer but he wasn’t absolutely abysmal either. And if you’re going to have a rough day as a striker with his characteristics, the Dutch are almost the most likely in this tournament given who they’ve got shadowing him.

Should be an interesting final, it’s a one-off game and a test of nerve as much as real quality. A bit of fortune, a team freezing etc.

One tangible, actual andvantage England do have is the benches, if they can stay in touch with Spain. Maybe the only one outside of the squads equivalent strengths on paper.

Spain get noticeably worse when they have to make more than a few changes, they’ve lost control of a couple of games when they’re tiring and have to dip into that reserve. I think part of it was also opposition coaches correcting their selection errors too, but you saw both France and Germany really get back into those two games

England can actually get better off the bench, be it being able to replace tired legs with equivalent talents, or change things a bit tactically. Often this has been bailing them out from fucking it up to begin with to be fair.

Aside from penalties if England are to pull it off, assuming Spain don’t play atypically awful they have to just find a way stick in the game and have the time to maybe have that advantage count.

Spain have the better plan A, but they don’t really have much of a plan B that we’ve seen so far, it ends up looking like plan A, but worse as they tire.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10212 Posts
July 11 2024 03:19 GMT
#3240
Agree on Kane being largely absent this game, but he's felt very invisible for the entire tournament so far. I really liked the change with Watkins, and it feels like every time he goes on, he does a pretty good job.
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