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GoloSC2
Profile Joined August 2014
713 Posts
March 08 2023 09:31 GMT
#1861
On March 08 2023 18:22 KobraKay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2023 16:40 GoloSC2 wrote:
On March 08 2023 16:23 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 08 2023 08:55 aseq wrote:
Double gifted penalty ftw! On the 'encroachment' rule though, is it the same as with offside, e.g. only if you end up interfering it counts as an offence?

There was nothing gifted about that tbh. Obvious handball and even the German referee expert said that repeating the pen was the only correct call according to the rules.

That call is basically never made


it was made vs Porto even in this champions league. Diogo Costa saved a penalty, they did a repeat due to someone going in and interfering with the ball clear and the kid had to save a second penalty.

That is an example from the end of the group stage from this very same competition. Penalty repeats do happen from time to time.


Forgive the hyperbole.
What I'm (seriously) wondering now is if there is any incentive for the penalty taker's team NOT to enter the box early-ish (not blatantly, of course), if it only matters when the penalty was missed anyway.
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18378 Posts
March 08 2023 14:41 GMT
#1862
On March 08 2023 18:19 GoloSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2023 17:16 Acrofales wrote:
On March 08 2023 16:40 GoloSC2 wrote:
On March 08 2023 16:23 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 08 2023 08:55 aseq wrote:
Double gifted penalty ftw! On the 'encroachment' rule though, is it the same as with offside, e.g. only if you end up interfering it counts as an offence?

There was nothing gifted about that tbh. Obvious handball and even the German referee expert said that repeating the pen was the only correct call according to the rules.

That call is basically never made

I guess the key point is that one of the Dortmund players who ran into the area early was the one who cleared the ball. It could be argued that if he hadn't run in early, a Dortmund player might have gotten there to convert the rebound. If Havertz had missed completely rather than it rebounding back into play off the post, I'm betting the VAR doesn't make that call.

That's very possible. It's just such an unequal situation - what are you gonna do if a Chelsea player scores off the rebound. According to the rules, you'd have to redo the penalty, no? Which seems absurd

Not sure. Maybe it's just an offensive foul in that case, and the defensive team gets a free kick (effectively, a goal kick). I don't know if that requires a rule change, but I do agree that retaking the penalty in that case is absurd.
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4367 Posts
March 08 2023 16:17 GMT
#1863
On March 08 2023 18:31 GoloSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2023 18:22 KobraKay wrote:
On March 08 2023 16:40 GoloSC2 wrote:
On March 08 2023 16:23 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 08 2023 08:55 aseq wrote:
Double gifted penalty ftw! On the 'encroachment' rule though, is it the same as with offside, e.g. only if you end up interfering it counts as an offence?

There was nothing gifted about that tbh. Obvious handball and even the German referee expert said that repeating the pen was the only correct call according to the rules.

That call is basically never made


it was made vs Porto even in this champions league. Diogo Costa saved a penalty, they did a repeat due to someone going in and interfering with the ball clear and the kid had to save a second penalty.

That is an example from the end of the group stage from this very same competition. Penalty repeats do happen from time to time.


Forgive the hyperbole.
What I'm (seriously) wondering now is if there is any incentive for the penalty taker's team NOT to enter the box early-ish (not blatantly, of course), if it only matters when the penalty was missed anyway.


it should be given an offensive foul if they interfere in the play IIRC. But dont quote me on that, I may me misremembering
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
March 08 2023 21:17 GMT
#1864
Wait, so did Bayern's goal got disallowed just because Muller TRIED to play the ball? What the hell?
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
March 08 2023 21:48 GMT
#1865
Bye bye psg. You won't be missed.
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2656 Posts
March 08 2023 23:30 GMT
#1866
PSG is such a joke of a football team, even as a meme they are so damn boring...
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4415 Posts
March 09 2023 04:25 GMT
#1867
Big game from de Ligt. He has kind of struggled ever since he left Ajax, mainly compared to the stratospheric expectations.

This could be his breakthrough. He was the reason Bayern didn't concede on multiple occasions. That goal line clearance was inspiring
Sucker for nostalgia
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18707 Posts
March 09 2023 06:58 GMT
#1868
Two legs - no goals from Mbappe, Messi or Neymar. (Yes injuries and what not) What a failure of a project and shows that a team makes success and not individual players!
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
March 09 2023 07:34 GMT
#1869
On March 09 2023 15:58 sharkie wrote:
Two legs - no goals from Mbappe, Messi or Neymar. (Yes injuries and what not) What a failure of a project and shows that a team makes success and not individual players!


I'm always highly amused by those clubs stacking the millions up front... And then Bayern, who were also blessed with Lewandowski all those years, are now still cruising around the absolute top tier with Choupo Moting.
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4367 Posts
March 09 2023 14:29 GMT
#1870
On March 09 2023 13:25 DropBear wrote:
Big game from de Ligt. He has kind of struggled ever since he left Ajax, mainly compared to the stratospheric expectations.

This could be his breakthrough. He was the reason Bayern didn't concede on multiple occasions. That goal line clearance was inspiring


I admit I didn't see the second leg, but how can this be true and at the same time people are so happy bashing PSG for doing nothing?

Judging from the comments here, PSG could very well have gone through if not for some timely intervetions from de ligt?

PSG was doing well before the WC break and players came back in chambles after it. Even in house where the competition is terrible, they are struggling. So despite this elimination being fuel for several of the posters here, its less about the project and more to focus on what happened between then and now. Are they all colelctively moaning because they failed to win the WC and had that expectation? Did messi win the WC and just went on perma vacations even when on field? Something else?
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2656 Posts
March 09 2023 14:47 GMT
#1871
I have seen the whole game, his saves were really great but more than often his passes were utter shit. People only remember this one save on the goal line I guess.

@PSG: they could have played 10 hours and still would not be able to score, Messi was non existent except complaining to the ref, Mbappe had like 1 okayish action. Verratti was super terribad, lost the ball like a noob that lead to the 1:0. It was like some journalist wrote: soulless ... the players, the strategy, the coach, the "stars", the whole club.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
March 10 2023 06:39 GMT
#1872
On March 09 2023 16:34 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2023 15:58 sharkie wrote:
Two legs - no goals from Mbappe, Messi or Neymar. (Yes injuries and what not) What a failure of a project and shows that a team makes success and not individual players!


I'm always highly amused by those clubs stacking the millions up front... And then Bayern, who were also blessed with Lewandowski all those years, are now still cruising around the absolute top tier with Choupo Moting.

Yeah, imagine how good bayern could be with a decent center forward. Should still be priority to get one.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18707 Posts
March 10 2023 07:48 GMT
#1873
Choupo moting is definitely a decent centre forward... he is just not starter level for a club like bayern but definitely good enough to be a very good squad player
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-03-10 18:28:28
March 10 2023 18:28 GMT
#1874
On March 10 2023 16:48 sharkie wrote:
Choupo moting is definitely a decent centre forward... he is just not starter level for a club like bayern but definitely good enough to be a very good squad player

Yep, he is at the correct level to be the backup for the first choice striker bayern needs to get asap.
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2072 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-03-10 19:23:20
March 10 2023 19:23 GMT
#1875
Any guesses on where PSG goes this summer? Messi and Ramos are definitely declining due to age, Neymar is struggling with injuries and starting to decline. Mbabbe is secured until summer 2025 as far as I can tell. Rebuild or scramble for two more UCL runs? How much Mbabbe has say on any of this?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 11 2023 14:30 GMT
#1876
Liverpool response to 7-0 drubbing of yanited with a 1-0 loss and penalty miss vs Bournemouth, what a strange season
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28869 Posts
March 11 2023 15:01 GMT
#1877
Funny, earlier in the season their response to a 1-2 loss against United was a 9-0 trouncing of Bournemouth.
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8912 Posts
March 11 2023 15:08 GMT
#1878
maybe it sums up liverpool at the moment. they can play when they can be arsed but most of the time they just cant be fucked now.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28869 Posts
March 11 2023 17:09 GMT
#1879
Chelsea, for the second time this season, scored more than 2 goals in a game. Made them go above 1 goal per game average. Wohoo.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 11 2023 18:28 GMT
#1880
It is nice to score goalazos! Scored 5 by two were offside and we also hit the post was nice!! Looked bit shakey defensively at times and Leicester might have let us off the hook but it was a nice win for sure.
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