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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 13 2023 03:31 GMT
#1341
Travis Kelce will need to be waned off the steroids that he was pumped full of before the game... jesus.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9058 Posts
February 13 2023 04:14 GMT
#1342
Who ended up MVP?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 13 2023 11:31 GMT
#1343
On February 13 2023 13:14 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Who ended up MVP?

Mahomes
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9058 Posts
February 13 2023 13:53 GMT
#1344
On February 13 2023 20:31 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 13:14 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Who ended up MVP?

Mahomes

Yeah. Forgot to check espn after I asked. Welp. See you all at the combine and draft!
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51607 Posts
February 15 2023 03:04 GMT
#1345
poor eagles had both of their coordinators snapped up. gannon (dc) to the cardinals and steichen (oc) to the colts.

sad that lou anarumo (bengals dc) didn't get a single sniff - guy deserves a shot given how he's moulded the bengals defense.
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StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
February 15 2023 05:20 GMT
#1346
Eagles fans online are celebrating Gannon leaving despite having the number 2 defense this season. Is this just Philly fans being toxic or are they right to celebrate? Seems by all accounts the players loved Gannon.
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
Melliflue
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom1389 Posts
February 15 2023 09:08 GMT
#1347
I found it very hard to evaluate that Eagles defense. They had an amazing running offense which limits the time the defense is on the field and the number of possessions the opposing offense has. They also benefitted from quite an easy schedule of opposing QBs. Their regular season QB opponents and the difference between how many points that team scored against the Eagles and how many points they scored per game:
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Jared Goff 8.4
Kirk Cousins -17.9
Carson Wentz -10.9
Trevor Lawrence -2.9
Kyler Murray -3
Cooper Rush -9.8
Kenny Pickett -5.1
Davis Mills 0
Taylor Heinicke 14.1
Matt Ryan -1
Aaron Rodgers 11.2
Ryan Tannehill -7.5
Daniel Jones 0.8
Justin Fields 0.8
Dak Prescott 13.2
Andy Dalton 0.6
Daniel Jones -5.2

The total difference is -14.2, or -0.84 per game, which makes them less than one point per game better than average.
(Sorry if I made a mistake with my stats somewhere.)


They had a good defense but I don't think that Eagles defense over-achieved considering the players they had. Which makes me question how good the DC actually was.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 15 2023 19:09 GMT
#1348
I have to think there is a conspiracy theory in the NFL to try and get Andy Reid to retire to saddle Mahomes with Bieniemy at this point.
Freeeeeeedom
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3827 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-16 01:50:10
February 16 2023 01:48 GMT
#1349
Bit of a rant here as an Eagles fan, and I'm by no means an expert but this is how I see it.

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So among Eagles fans there was a lot of disappointment in our defense last year (2021 season) because Gannon's preferred scheme is to rely on the 4 man rush to get home and play a lot of 2 safety high zone (lots of cover 4). This works very often because the Eagles front 4 is really good, but it was evident throughout 2021 that good QBs or OCs could play around it and completely shred the eagles defense. (Dak, Brady, Herbert etc...

At the start of the 2022 the system changed and the first 6-8 games the defensive scheme was noticeably more aggressive. The Minnesota game was a good example of a lot of press/man coverage working out well with the two good corners. When our corners played man we tended to do pretty well.

But towards the end of the season and the superbowl we noticeably went back to this very passive zone coverage scheme that didn't look good vs the eye test. When we had Schwartz his philosophy was to basically sell out to stop the run and then force teams to pass over the top. Gannon has basically been the opposite, refusing to let anything go over the top and giving up tons of easy stuff.

Unfortunately when we went up against Reid and Mahomes they were just too happy to take the little plays and march down the field. Watching the superbowl Chiefs would have like 2 or 3 passing options vs 7 defenders dropped into coverage and they would be disturbingly open. Reid is an amazing gameplanner and designer so it's not like it would have been easy or anything, but look at how the eagles cornerbacks reacted to jet motions, it's horrific and looks really undisciplined. They got 2 completely free Touchdowns by just motioning the receiver to behind the Quarterback and back again. Reid consistently got Kelce on our worst coverage backs (Epps), even when they were only using 2 or 3 passing options total, that feels indefensible.

I think Gannon is competent but I'm okay with him leaving because I think it's time for a change, I really think it was talent carrying the scheme, rather than scheme allowing the talent to flourish. I think Steichen will be a much bigger loss.
(plus we're going to lose a bunch of defensive players to FA this year so maybe it's a good time to make a DC change).
I know that statistically the Eagles D was very good, but I think a lot of that was the D's ability to punch downwards and an unsustainable turnover differential early on.


Anyway, future is still bright, Hurts is the man and offense will be mostly intact with plenty of draft capital to rebuild the defense. And all said and done we pushed Reid-Mahomes to the limit so can't be too upset.
: o )
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
February 18 2023 18:18 GMT
#1350
From an outsider looking in, no idea how the commanders oc job is better than chiefs oc job? Guess he gets to call the plays but at what cost lol
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 18 2023 20:40 GMT
#1351
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 18 2023 23:22 GMT
#1352
I doubt its going to help. He seems kinda like a wet blanket, and the way to get these jobs seems to be a great ball washer. Did you see the nonsense the new Cardinals guy was spouting about Kyler?
Freeeeeeedom
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 20 2023 03:53 GMT
#1353
On February 19 2023 03:18 Titusmaster6 wrote:
From an outsider looking in, no idea how the commanders oc job is better than chiefs oc job? Guess he gets to call the plays but at what cost lol

More money and they basically made him head coach in waiting
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 10 2023 23:40 GMT
#1354
Panthers giving up a lot to move up to #1. 2 firsts 2 seconds and DJ Moore
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 10 2023 23:55 GMT
#1355
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 11 2023 03:06 GMT
#1356
I've seen approximately zero DJ Moore games
Freeeeeeedom
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 11 2023 14:31 GMT
#1357
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 13 2023 18:20 GMT
#1358
Jimmy G to the raiders
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 14 2023 00:03 GMT
#1359
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
March 14 2023 23:58 GMT
#1360
Jets got Lazard. Would be hilarious if they grab a bunch of Rodgers wishlist receivers, the trade doesn't go through, and Zach Wilson has to throw passes to those WRs.
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