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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 23 2019 10:14 GMT
#141
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2052 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-23 13:13:30
July 23 2019 12:58 GMT
#142
On July 23 2019 16:09 sharkie wrote:
This explains the 180 from Zidane. Any coach would be pissed at a player refusing to come on

Does stuff like this give any grounds for releasing Bale due to contract breach? I'd like to think there's certain level of participation and cooperation required for that hefty salary.

Edit: I guess one of the key aspects is whether he just doesn't want to play or refuses to play. So far the phrasing has been "didn't want to play", I think.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
July 23 2019 13:14 GMT
#143
only if he does it a few more times and also refuses to train, tho they could probably fine/suspend him for the week.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-23 13:53:38
July 23 2019 13:53 GMT
#144
On July 23 2019 16:09 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2019 20:52 Pandemona wrote:
"Him staying is not a problem," Zidane said ahead of the International Champions Cup clash against Bayern Munich.

"I can't say that the player is a problem. He has a contract, he is here and what I can say is that anything could happen.

"I have to respect all the players, he is with us and he is a Real Madrid player.

"We will see what will happen. His role has not changed compared to in June."


This explains the 180 from Zidane. Any coach would be pissed at a player refusing to come on

Show nested quote +
Real Madrid manager Zinedine Zidane has denied showing disrespect to Gareth Bale, and claimed the Wales forward refused to come on as a substitute against Bayern Munich on Sunday.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/49080786

Changed to;
Zidane: "Gareth didn't come on because he didn't want to. He said that the club was working on his exit and that's why he didn't come on. Gareth is a Real Madrid player, he'll train as normal today and we'll have to see what happens tomorrow".

So its like half and half, so imo both sides are wrong now lol. Zidane shouldn't tell the media this and Bale should not suggest he should not come on.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18637 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-23 14:12:01
July 23 2019 14:10 GMT
#145
I don't really see Zidane at fault now. He knows that the club is working on Bale's exit and he still respected Bale enough to let him come in as a substitute (something many would not consider doing at all).
Yet, Bale basically gave Zidane a finger by not wanting to come on. The way Bale has been acting at Real since day 1, he should have been dropped to the 2nd team for ages already. He is a spoiled child.

Imagine us saying to our bosses "nah I dont want to come to work today." We would get fired immediately, no pay, no nothing. I dont see why footballers who already earn thousand times more than us should be allowed to do that. This will only grow player power
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 23 2019 14:13 GMT
#146
He is also a stupidly good footballer with outside of Ronaldo (Cristano) numbers Bale would be there most successful player ever though...so in one way you are right Bale should have came on but on the other hand he is also being treated as as scape goat. Zidane told Real board he wanted to keep Ronaldo and sell Bale but the board choose to keep Bale and sell Ronaldo.

The goal Bale scored in the champions league final and the one in the Super Copa Del Rey i think or even the Copa Del Rey vs Barca was something of sheer beauty. What you can maybe argue is that Bale has also got a body that has broken down on him and has not tried to adapt to the cultures of Spain. Even though clearly Florentino valued him over Ronaldo and Zidane as we witnessed!
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18637 Posts
July 23 2019 14:27 GMT
#147
Stats and skill wise definitely god tier at Real. But do you think he will be seen as a Real legend in the years to come?
I seriously dont believe Bale will ever be considered a legend by the club and by the fans of the club.

Also lol at Florentino. He definitely regretted his decision several times over last season.
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2727 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-24 01:10:56
July 23 2019 19:07 GMT
#148
On July 23 2019 23:27 sharkie wrote:
Stats and skill wise definitely god tier at Real. But do you think he will be seen as a Real legend in the years to come?
I seriously dont believe Bale will ever be considered a legend by the club and by the fans of the club.

Also lol at Florentino. He definitely regretted his decision several times over last season.


A lot of fans already only meme about Bale not speaking Spanish after 6 years and him being a Golf player who plays football. So no, I don't think they will remember him as a legend.

I think Bale biggest mistake was when minutes after winning the CL final and scoring two goals, he complaining about Zidane and not playing enough. Fans have still not forgiven him for that. (And after that, his last season was terrible, when he was considered CR sucessor)
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
July 24 2019 00:56 GMT
#149
i honestly never knew fans cared so much if a player spoke the language or not. what i'll remember the most about bale at RM is the injuries.
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
July 24 2019 01:23 GMT
#150
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Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2052 Posts
July 24 2019 08:23 GMT
#151
On July 24 2019 09:56 zev318 wrote:
i honestly never knew fans cared so much if a player spoke the language or not. what i'll remember the most about bale at RM is the injuries.

It's probably one of these things that get brought up once things aren't working out. The same went for Mourinho staying in hotel rather than moving over while managing ManU.

Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18292 Posts
July 24 2019 08:43 GMT
#152
On July 24 2019 17:23 Bacillus wrote:
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On July 24 2019 09:56 zev318 wrote:
i honestly never knew fans cared so much if a player spoke the language or not. what i'll remember the most about bale at RM is the injuries.

It's probably one of these things that get brought up once things aren't working out. The same went for Mourinho staying in hotel rather than moving over while managing ManU.


I dunno. It's something fans appreciate. Eriksen is still well liked by Ajax fans and one of the reasons is that he learnt Dutch really fast and could chat with Dutch fans and give interviews in Dutch. Johan Cruijff is admired as an icon of Barça, not only for his accomplishments but also for his appreciation of Catalan culture (although he butchered the language... but he butchered Dutch too :'D)

I mean, if you show it on the field, it's generally forgiven if you otherwise show no involvement, but if you show an appreciation of your new club and city, fans are far more willing to forgive flaws. And Bale has shown no appreciation of Madrid, and has plenty of flaws.
whistleboss
Profile Joined March 2019
151 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-24 08:56:40
July 24 2019 08:44 GMT
#153
Awwwww messi got $1500 fine for accusing CONMEBOL of corruption. Isn't that soooo cute??? <3

Well, he was right after all wasn't he!?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 24 2019 09:14 GMT
#154
The speed, and dribbling are there. If he can master his finishing then watch out.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-24 09:44:14
July 24 2019 09:41 GMT
#155
On July 24 2019 18:14 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
The speed, and dribbling are there. If he can master his finishing then watch out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRzIifhFX3s

TBH that was one of the most unimpressive All Touches and Skills videos I've ever seen. Usually when people produce such videos it's of a great game for them where the player was on fire the whole game. Pulisic had like 2 good scenes in this one while the rest were stuff like backpasses and throw ins and 50/50 challenges where nobody won the ball


Anyways. I'm really curious how Pulisic will work out. Always liked him since I first heard about him. He allways acted as an professional which sadly is something to point out nowadays especially among younger players. As you said he has the speed and he can dribble. He definitely has the potential to become something great. His biggest problem isn't his finishing though but his mentality in game. It's an aspect where he really regressed the last 1 1/2 years since he wasn't a starting player for Dortmund anymore. What does it help you if you always try the difficult dribble and lose the ball while your teammate is standing in prime position completely unmarked but doesn't get the service. That's why he wasn't among the best dribblers in Bundesliga anymore last season.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7208 Posts
July 24 2019 10:02 GMT
#156
I hope Bale transfers to a club that plays CL and then proceeds to butcher Real in the playoffs <3
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haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2727 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-24 10:10:02
July 24 2019 10:08 GMT
#157
So Asensio got a serious injury yesterday in the friendly in the US and he will be out most of the season. I guess if this will change Bale situation. Because without Asension they only have Bale and Lucas Vasquez in that position. Or will they buy a new player?
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18637 Posts
July 24 2019 10:44 GMT
#158
On July 24 2019 19:08 haitike wrote:
So Asensio got a serious injury yesterday in the friendly in the US and he will be out most of the season. I guess if this will change Bale situation. Because without Asension they only have Bale and Lucas Vasquez in that position. Or will they buy a new player?


what position would that be?
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2727 Posts
July 24 2019 11:00 GMT
#159
On July 24 2019 19:44 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2019 19:08 haitike wrote:
So Asensio got a serious injury yesterday in the friendly in the US and he will be out most of the season. I guess if this will change Bale situation. Because without Asensio they only have Bale and Lucas Vasquez in that position. Or will they buy a new player?


what position would that be?


Winger
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 24 2019 11:01 GMT
#160
On July 24 2019 18:41 TheNewEra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2019 18:14 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
The speed, and dribbling are there. If he can master his finishing then watch out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRzIifhFX3s

TBH that was one of the most unimpressive All Touches and Skills videos I've ever seen. Usually when people produce such videos it's of a great game for them where the player was on fire the whole game. Pulisic had like 2 good scenes in this one while the rest were stuff like backpasses and throw ins and 50/50 challenges where nobody won the ball


Anyways. I'm really curious how Pulisic will work out. Always liked him since I first heard about him. He allways acted as an professional which sadly is something to point out nowadays especially among younger players. As you said he has the speed and he can dribble. He definitely has the potential to become something great. His biggest problem isn't his finishing though but his mentality in game. It's an aspect where he really regressed the last 1 1/2 years since he wasn't a starting player for Dortmund anymore. What does it help you if you always try the difficult dribble and lose the ball while your teammate is standing in prime position completely unmarked but doesn't get the service. That's why he wasn't among the best dribblers in Bundesliga anymore last season.

You dare question PULIGOD!!! He did one good run in that game and his direct pace is pretty good, still seems very raw for a guy who has like over 100 appearances in Bundesliga though lol. Here's hoping he hits the ground running and dominates for us though we are going to need it :D
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