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On August 18 2020 21:31 sneakyfox wrote:
Van Dijk/de Ligt defense not the worst basis to built a team on.
Seems so atypical that we're suddenly stacked on defence. Virgil / De Ligt with De Vrij / Ake as backup. Midfield isn't too bad either with Frenkie, Gini, De Roon. But apart from Memphis (who isn't world class) in attack there is no one, just some talents. Not too surprising for a small country, but usually it's the other way around.
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On August 18 2020 22:08 aseq wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2020 21:31 sneakyfox wrote:
Van Dijk/de Ligt defense not the worst basis to built a team on. Seems so atypical that we're suddenly stacked on defence. Virgil / De Ligt with De Vrij / Ake as backup. Midfield isn't too bad either with Frenkie, Gini, De Roon. But apart from Memphis (who isn't world class) in attack there is no one, just some talents. Not too surprising for a small country, but usually it's the other way around.
Yeah, it's really weird. We're usually pretty decent on midfielders and have world class attackers. I find it hard to remember when we last didn't have a world class attacker. We went from v. Basten to Bergkamp to Kluivert to v. Nistelrooy to Robben and v. Persie. And for most of that time we had world class subs too.
Now we have Depay who is already inferior to all of those, and Dost, who is good but has never ever been good for the national squad. Other than that? Absolute misery like the de Jong brothers, and maybe some hopeful talents.
Meanwhile, I don't think I can remember the last world class defender we had. Stam, I guess? Other than that? I think you have to go back to Rijkaard and Koeman...
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Northern Ireland27464 Posts
On August 18 2020 22:19 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2020 22:08 aseq wrote:On August 18 2020 21:31 sneakyfox wrote:
Van Dijk/de Ligt defense not the worst basis to built a team on. Seems so atypical that we're suddenly stacked on defence. Virgil / De Ligt with De Vrij / Ake as backup. Midfield isn't too bad either with Frenkie, Gini, De Roon. But apart from Memphis (who isn't world class) in attack there is no one, just some talents. Not too surprising for a small country, but usually it's the other way around. Yeah, it's really weird. We're usually pretty decent on midfielders and have world class attackers. I find it hard to remember when we last didn't have a world class attacker. We went from v. Basten to Bergkamp to Kluivert to v. Nistelrooy to Robben and v. Persie. And for most of that time we had world class subs too. Now we have Depay who is already inferior to all of those, and Dost, who is good but has never ever been good for the national squad. Other than that? Absolute misery like the de Jong brothers, and maybe some hopeful talents. Meanwhile, I don't think I can remember the last world class defender we had. Stam, I guess? Other than that? I think you have to go back to Rijkaard and Koeman...
Roy Makaay springs immediately to mind as a player who would walk into the current team, but struggled to establish himself given the amount of talent up top there used to be.
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On August 18 2020 21:03 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Show nested quote +FC Barcelona will present Ronald Koeman as their new coach within 24 hours. The Netherlands NT will receive a substantial lump sum payment.
Just read that Koeman had loopwhole that allow him to leave for Barca for free
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That was big news in NL because he denied (at first) to the press that there were any special clauses in his national contract. Did way more damage to his credibility than just admitting he'd prefer to coach Barca over NL, which everyone would have understood.
He has a very mixed record as a coach though, hard to say what's going to happen in this case. If he turns out to be just a pawn for the board or Messi, things could go south quickly, just like with Everton.
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From what i read. Xavi is the man Barca really want. But he don't want to be Coach that this president select, so he have declined. Don't really understand the president system in Spain. It seems responsible for much of the problems
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On August 18 2020 23:05 Sapaio wrote:Just read that Koeman had loopwhole that allow him to leave for Barca for free
Supposedly that clause only kicks into work after Euro 2020. With that being turned into Euro 2021, whether or not that clause is active now is weird. So I'm guessing Barça is just spending some money to make sure this doesn't get tied up in court?
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On August 18 2020 23:59 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2020 23:05 Sapaio wrote:Just read that Koeman had loopwhole that allow him to leave for Barca for free Supposedly that clause only kicks into work after Euro 2020. With that being turned into Euro 2021, whether or not that clause is active now is weird. So I'm guessing Barça is just spending some money to make sure this doesn't get tied up in court?
Are you sure it's not just date after euro 2020should have been played. Don't see Barca throwing massive amounts after a coach. Reason Porchettino was frontrunner to begin with.
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Good good, spend some cash now and some when he inevitably gets sacked. The club is sitting on so much money, might as well give it away xD
PSG Leipzig time! PSG favorite, but as a team Leipzig is stronger. Should be a fun match. 4-2 Paris, I say.
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Ohhh was it handball?
Yes it was, good spot live.
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Great header from Marquinhos that
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Hmmm this look like difference between clubs.
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
God dammit, Neymar costing me more money this week haha!
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Looks like game over to me. Leipzig plays it super low with no press to not leave space to Mbappe and Neymar, so this is the worst possible scenario for them. 2nd half they'll have to go yolo, I can see a lot more goals for Paris.
I don't feel like Paris is playing amazing either, just solid and patient. But Leipzig is not able to produce anything. Easy game for now.
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Northern Ireland27464 Posts
Is Angel Di Maria one of the most underrated players of this era?
Leipzig seem a bit fucked and lacking the intensity one associated with them, but hey in the last decade miraculous CL comebacks seem as common happening as not.
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On August 19 2020 04:52 Wombat_NI wrote:
Is Angel Di Maria one of the most underrated players of this era?
Leipzig seem a bit fucked and lacking the intensity one associated with them, but hey in the last decade miraculous CL comebacks seem as common happening as not.
He's great but he has been inconsistent throughout his whole career. Best Di Maria was actually when he was a semi-defensive midfielder with Real.
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On August 19 2020 04:52 Wombat_NI wrote:
Is Angel Di Maria one of the most underrated players of this era?
Leipzig seem a bit fucked and lacking the intensity one associated with them, but hey in the last decade miraculous CL comebacks seem as common happening as not.
No, thats thomas müller. Hes better than di maria in all aspects
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On August 19 2020 05:14 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2020 04:52 Wombat_NI wrote:
Is Angel Di Maria one of the most underrated players of this era?
Leipzig seem a bit fucked and lacking the intensity one associated with them, but hey in the last decade miraculous CL comebacks seem as common happening as not.
No, thats thomas müller. Hes better than di maria in all aspects
Except I don't think anybody underrates Muller. Maybe before 2013.
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