Think the claim is going to be that in 2009 during that first interview/deposition there was a mistranslation from Portuguese -> English
Considering that he was likely represented by an attorney for this, that seems kinda weak.

Stratos_speAr

United States6959 Posts

September 28 2018 19:30 GMT

#803

On September 29 2018 03:25 nojok wrote:

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You're jumping to conclusions. It's still expected from a lot of women to refuse sex thus this weird foreplay of refusing verbally while expressing the total opposite with the rest of their body.

In the end, it's just words, I can totally understand "She said that she doesn't want to, but she has made herself available", it happened to me and some friends I discussed with, girls just want us to extand the foreplay and to feel desired.

Not saying it's a rule but there is a vast difference between a real "no" and "no but made herself available".

Is this an honest reply?

Have you been completely oblivious to the #meToo movement, "no means no", etc?

Unless that's a mistranslation, there is no world in which you can construe that as anything except rape.

TheNewEra

Germany3128 Posts

September 28 2018 19:30 GMT

#804

On September 29 2018 04:22 sneirac wrote:

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Think the claim is going to be that in 2009 during that first interview/deposition there was a mistranslation from Portuguese -> English

Ah, got you

Considering that he was likely represented by an attorney for this, that seems kinda weak.

Yeah. Agreed

Espers

United Kingdom606 Posts

September 28 2018 20:23 GMT

#805

seems hard to believe his lawyer would write a letter outright admitting to rape..

{CC}StealthBlue

United States41117 Posts

September 28 2018 21:49 GMT

#806

Pogba didn't play but somehow he will be blamed. Just watch.

Sermokala

United States14155 Posts

September 28 2018 22:28 GMT

#807

This whole telling pogba that he'll never be captain just shows how far gone the team has to be. The guy just came back from pulling the strings for the world cup champions and you don't think he'll ever be able to lead the team? The team had to pay tons of cash because he was ment to feel that he was being held back and he bosman'd. Now you want to repeat that and let him walk because you're so power hungry that you can't even entertain the possibility of him being captain?

Ysellian

Netherlands9029 Posts

September 28 2018 23:45 GMT

#808

Pogba and Mourinho are a complete mismatch and United is a shit show at the moment. Having said that, whatever Pogba does for France is irrelevant when it is in sharp contrast with how he is for United. (Also he's not the France captain, that is Lloris, and when Lloris is unavailable the captaincy falls to Varane). For United his head is the first to drop when things go bad and his agent keeps looking for the exit. Again understandable from his perspective, but do United really want that from a captain?

When I think of great captains I think of Puyol, Deschamps, Kuyt. I feel like great captains never let their heads down and embody what the club represents. That doesn't mean that a captain can't have disagreements with the manager, but you always keep that shit internal.

DucK-

Singapore11447 Posts

September 29 2018 00:22 GMT

#809

Pogba is not captain material because its always himself before team. When things go well then yea its good. When things go south, be does not inspire.

evilfatsh1t

Australia8900 Posts

September 29 2018 00:48 GMT

#810

man utds captain should have been herrera from a long time ago. mou doesnt really give a shit about who his captain is though. hes made this pretty clear from the beginning

Bacillus

Finland2071 Posts

September 29 2018 10:24 GMT

#811

On September 29 2018 07:28 Sermokala wrote:
This whole telling pogba that he'll never be captain just shows how far gone the team has to be. The guy just came back from pulling the strings for the world cup champions and you don't think he'll ever be able to lead the team? The team had to pay tons of cash because he was ment to feel that he was being held back and he bosman'd. Now you want to repeat that and let him walk because you're so power hungry that you can't even entertain the possibility of him being captain?

Is there some reason why Mou simply couldn't have commented that he didn't feel Pogba responded well enough to the captaincy and responsibility?

That throws the challenge back to Pogba: Be better, be more consistent, show maturity. The way Mou handled this seems to be the exact opposite. Now Pogba has no reason to try to be better because the rewards are no longer available for him anyway.

nojok

France15846 Posts

September 29 2018 12:14 GMT

#812

The focus on Pogba is hard to understand. First he's not that good, I don't know how he has become the most expensive player ever at some point. Second, why did they choose to make him a superstar? It makes no sense. It's like Cantona all over again, pick the village idiot and make him a superstar.