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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-30 00:32:25
December 30 2017 00:28 GMT
#1421
DeRozan elite stats

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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 30 2017 00:41 GMT
#1422
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-30 00:42:59
December 30 2017 00:41 GMT
#1423
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17708 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-30 01:06:12
December 30 2017 00:44 GMT
#1424
CN Tower looking awesome tonight.

ouch
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2751532-jusuf-nurkic-says-joel-embiid-tries-to-be-more-famous-than-a-player?share=other

i think Casey should leave the bench out there until Atlanta cuts into the lead that the bench created.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3395 Posts
December 30 2017 01:05 GMT
#1425
I just watched the first half of HOU vs WSH and I honestly hate the way Harden plays. I know a lot of the PG's do it nowadays but he throws his hands up so much trying to draw a foul or contact that its annoying to watch at times.
김택용 Fighting!
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 30 2017 01:12 GMT
#1426
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17708 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-30 02:25:07
December 30 2017 01:14 GMT
#1427
i think its really cool that Casey lets Siakam continue to learn to shoot the 3. he is something like 3 for 30 in the last few weeks or something stupid like that.

Siakam's learning experience probably cost them a game or 2... but who cares about the regular season any way.

i like Casey/Ujiri's high-risk/high-reward develop the team for a very high ceiling mindset. If it means they lose a few regular season games along the way and a few guys have bad boxscore stats.. .who cares.

OG and Delon... best defenders on the team.

uhhh i hope Delon didn't fuck up his right wrist.

i just fucking love it when Delon blocks the jump shot of a 7 footer.. he blocked Dirk twice.. now whoever that was on Atlanta... LOL.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
December 30 2017 02:12 GMT
#1428
Speaking of prime, I think Shaq is correct when he said if he played today, he could demand $300/3 years.
Which is why Howard is suck a tragedy. He was supposed to be an upgrade to Shaq, but he ended up being just a lazy entitled baby making fool.
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-30 02:17:30
December 30 2017 02:16 GMT
#1429
On December 30 2017 10:12 JimmiC wrote:
it does get annoying, I think since he is so known for it it sometimes leads to him not getting calls maybe he should as well. Or at least I hope that is happening since it s so clear that he is trying to draw the foul not score. And he even does it on 3's!

https://www.sbnation.com/2017/5/5/15542952/james-harden-foul-threes-over-screen-rockets

http://uproxx.com/dimemag/james-harden-draws-a-ridiculous-foul/

I just watched a Harden offseason training video, focusing on getting difficult offscreen and threes and getting fouls amidst contact. I don't blame or hate him, it's ugly and 50+ FTAs per game is ridiculous, but I think it's all on the refs to be consistent and to decide which are actual fouls and which are made up ones.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17708 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-30 02:46:28
December 30 2017 02:31 GMT
#1430
"a little free Pizza Mattie D!", Jack Armstrong

Casey should put the bench out there again... the starters are sleep walking.

casey pulls the trigger and puts his 2 defensive stoppers into the game.. OG and Delon.

Delon Wright was the best player tonight.. in general the starters were "meh". Freddy and Delon really work well together.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 30 2017 02:53 GMT
#1431
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-30 03:07:44
December 30 2017 03:07 GMT
#1432
On December 30 2017 11:53 JimmiC wrote:
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On December 30 2017 11:16 Twinkle Toes wrote:
On December 30 2017 10:12 JimmiC wrote:
it does get annoying, I think since he is so known for it it sometimes leads to him not getting calls maybe he should as well. Or at least I hope that is happening since it s so clear that he is trying to draw the foul not score. And he even does it on 3's!

https://www.sbnation.com/2017/5/5/15542952/james-harden-foul-threes-over-screen-rockets

http://uproxx.com/dimemag/james-harden-draws-a-ridiculous-foul/

I just watched a Harden offseason training video, focusing on getting difficult offscreen and threes and getting fouls amidst contact. I don't blame or hate him, it's ugly and 50+ FTAs per game is ridiculous, but I think it's all on the refs to be consistent and to decide which are actual fouls and which are made up ones.


You got to do everything you can as a player to get a edge, use the rules to your advantage, so I get it. But as a viewer it is not fun to watch a foul fest.

Can't be denied though, Harden is an offensive beast. He can score from anywhere and makes it look so easy, that's why I really don't mind all the trickery.

Did you watch the games? Delon and OG are defensive beasts!!! Casey is a genius!
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 30 2017 03:10 GMT
#1433
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17708 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-30 03:48:53
December 30 2017 03:23 GMT
#1434
did Giannis step out of bounds? LOL.
On December 30 2017 12:10 JimmiC wrote:
I did Raps totally outclassed the Hawks. Lowry solid as usual bench got tons of run because the hawks are so bad.

the bench got lots of run because of the lead they created. the Derozan+Bench lineup did well as well.
Lowry was "meh" and his -2 and 5/15 against a crap Atlanta team describes his performance well.

Delon outplayed Lowry by a big margin tonight.

no idea what game you were watchin'

Giannis looks out of bounds to me. OKC got hosed. i guess this will come out in the referees 2 minute report.
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PG13 ain't happy about it. 8000 likes in 20 minutes.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
December 30 2017 09:06 GMT
#1435
On December 30 2017 10:12 JimmiC wrote:
it does get annoying, I think since he is so known for it it sometimes leads to him not getting calls maybe he should as well. Or at least I hope that is happening since it s so clear that he is trying to draw the foul not score. And he even does it on 3's!

https://www.sbnation.com/2017/5/5/15542952/james-harden-foul-threes-over-screen-rockets

http://uproxx.com/dimemag/james-harden-draws-a-ridiculous-foul/


I think the most egregious stuff he does is shit like this:



It's one thing to exaggerate contact to get a call you feel you deserve, it's a whole other thing to hook a player's arm and manufacture contact that wouldn't have existed otherwise. You have to give it to him though, he found an exploit in the game and he's taking full advantage of it. I'd say he's truly an innovator. He's possibly the first person that thought of driving to the basket with the goal of getting to the free throw line instead of making a shot. Getting to the line is going to net him more points than any other shot unless it's a 2pt FGA that he makes 85%~ of the time or a 3 that he makes 60%~ of the time.

Harden is easily the GOAT FT getter as evidenced by:

-NBA made a rule change because of the way he was drawing fouls on 3-pointers last season
-Got fouled on more 3PA last season than any other NBA team
-Ranked #270 in all-time FGM but ranked #56 in all-time FTM
-A season with 700+ made FTs has only been done 6 times in the last 29 years, 3 of them are by James Harden in his last 3 seasons and he's on pace to do it again this season
-Has made more FTs than FGs. I haven't done much research but I would bet that James Harden is the only player in the history of basketball to make more FTs than FGs.
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
December 30 2017 12:10 GMT
#1436
@ BlackJack I agree in essence, but there are rules and there are referees to interpret and implement those rules. It is no different than the other "tricks" to get some advantage like the extra 1-2 steps on drives and eurosteps, the sneaky arm lock away from ref's vision during rebounds, the gentle push offs, and others. Harden's foul-baiting is just more blatantly obvious with direct immediate effect (free throws) and that's why it's getting more attention than the others.

I think the solution is:

1. Referees to be very extra super keen on this and other shit like this - like flopping, tech baiting (like Calderon to Durant a while ago), and traveling
2. Players need to learn to defend better without doing amateur arm reaching and flailing. This is a hard ask I know, but think SAS in last year's series vs. the Rockets, or to be specific think Iguodala, Ariza, or Kidd. If players could raise their defensive IQ close to that level, then it will all be for good for NBA. Harden is exposing a basketball vulnerability in the same manner that Kyrie and Curry are with their video-game level dribbling, and Curry with his three point shots. You have to address it specifically by improving as a defender.
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
December 30 2017 12:32 GMT
#1437
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Right under the ref's nose too. Shouldn't this be like SOP for refs to look out for in situations like this? Our lone ref in pick up games at the Y spots lane violations like this from across the center court ezpz. Refs are getting a lot of unnecessary attention so early in the season.
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Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
December 30 2017 14:45 GMT
#1438
On December 30 2017 07:23 cLutZ wrote:
I thought everyone knew that the post-Pistons rule changes make the game unrecognizable. FFS, Steve Nash immediately won back-to-back MVPs.

Basically, what happened in the NBA was that the Bad Boys Pistons were like the 2015 Warriors. They "solved" the ruleset at the time. You could brutalize the other teams' best offensive players on the wing, and just grind out games. Every team after that played nasty defense. In fact, most good teams were just plain ugly. Houston was ugly, the Knicks were ugly, the Heat were ugly, the Spurs were ugly, the Jailblazers & Sonics were ugly, the 2nd incarnation of the Pistons with the Wallace boys was ugly. The Bulls & the Lakers were the outliers in that they were actually exciting to watch and were winning. By way of comparison, the Bulls doing what they did would be like the 76ers starting a dynasty next year with Simmons & Fultz shooting almost no 3s, but just dominating with midrange jumpers & Embiid being an elite post man. Then the Lakers would be like that, but with Fultz competent at 3s.



I stumbled across this video earlier last week about how Illegal Defense may have helped MJ score a ton of his points (free drives to the basket, basically). Thought it was really interesting. Especially because I didn't start watching basketball until the 2001-2002 season specifically because of what an ugly game it was before then. Caught a game one night while stoned and discovered that I suddenly enjoyed watching a game with lots of ball movement and a more entertaining "flow." (still hated the last 2 minute foul-fest though) Anyway, since Illegal Defense has come up, I thought I'd share. In spoilers for you cLutz!

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Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
December 30 2017 15:30 GMT
#1439
OOOH Finally, notorious Raptor hater Coach Nick gives Raptors some love:

I've been waiting for this video this year. Usually he waits until they hit a slump to poop all over the Toronto parade after their hot start every year.

His ad-game on point too.

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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-30 15:45:27
December 30 2017 15:36 GMT
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