• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:34
CEST 17:34
KST 00:34
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon100Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?179Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9
StarCraft 2
General
Yamato Cup Series StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Has online-only competition during the pandemic changed your enjoyment of pro SC2? How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026?
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall KSL Week #92
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
Bot on ladder Remastered crash fix suggestions New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Syncronization issues and can't find games
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group D [Megathread] Daily Proleagues The Casual Games of the Week Thread Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Post Your Watch!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7818 users

NBA Season 2017-2018 - Page 18

Forum Index > Sports
Post a Reply
Prev 1 16 17 18 19 20 143 Next
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17811 Posts
October 23 2017 02:27 GMT
#341
another good defensive PG giving Ball problems.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
October 23 2017 02:35 GMT
#342
WTF with the LAL game? Even the home crowd is booing them
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-23 02:40:27
October 23 2017 02:38 GMT
#343
Crawford saved TT calling timeout after the Melo 3. A true wolves4life indeed!
Looks like an X play. Jamal was just excited
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17811 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-23 03:36:13
October 23 2017 03:35 GMT
#344
welp, Ball is just gettin' roughed up. why is he trying to rebound at both ends of the floor...
clarkson has outplayed ball tonight.. period.. end of story.

Ball has gotten eaten up by elite level defense. it'll be interesting to see if he can withstand above average defense from guys like Lowry and Hill.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
October 23 2017 04:10 GMT
#345
Wiggins just proved to all fans and haters that he is a max player
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
imBLIND
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2626 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-23 06:54:27
October 23 2017 06:45 GMT
#346
People give Ball crap for his shot, but his defense is even worse than Russell's for some reason. It's almost like you can tell this guy only players pick-up/college game defense. It's almost as bad as Randle's defense. Then again, Laker's defense as a whole is atrocious.

To Ball's defense though, it seems a majority of his mistakes are due to experience and conditioning, both of which are nearly guaranteed to get better the longer he plays.
im deaf
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
October 23 2017 08:30 GMT
#347
How many games do they have to play until we can objectively conclude that we have seen the maximum potential of a rookie?
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
October 23 2017 09:14 GMT
#348
I'm more concerned with Ingram. Does he look like a bust to anyone else here? Every time I see him play I'm really unimpressed. Kuzma is looking better already.
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
October 23 2017 09:30 GMT
#349
On October 23 2017 18:14 ZenithM wrote:
I'm more concerned with Ingram. Does he look like a bust to anyone else here? Every time I see him play I'm really unimpressed. Kuzma is looking better already.

Ingram looks like another question mark for the Lakers. I don't think they can hasten any rebuild within 5 years with this group. Although I wonder how they would look like once some superstars start to come over next year.
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 23 2017 13:51 GMT
#350
--- Nuked ---
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
October 23 2017 14:02 GMT
#351
We sure are spending a lot of time talking about a player whose ceiling was probably going to be average starter.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
October 23 2017 15:40 GMT
#352
It's all because of the preseason/preNBA narrative. And it's 3 games into the season. He is a rookie with much to learn. Opposing guard assigned to him should not even be in the discussion. Veteran superstar guards like Curry, Kyrie, and CP3 all have trouble with Beverley and similar defense oriented guards, so it less them and more about how he adjusts and whether he has the skills to meet the hype.
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 23 2017 16:06 GMT
#353
--- Nuked ---
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-23 16:09:15
October 23 2017 16:08 GMT
#354
Curry routinely had big games against the Clippers when CP3 was there. Some point guards are sieves on defense, sure, but defending quick pgs is more about team defense rather than individual defense. Ball is counted to be more of a distributor than a scorer anyway.

What is the scouting report on Brandon Ingram during the draft? What is he supposed to be good at? I remember the discussion last year was that he had a similar build to Kevin Durant, who also struggled his first year in the league. But Durant is a good shooter who shot in the high 80s at the free throw line his rookie year. His fg% eventually improved once he got used to the NBA. Ingram was terrible at the free throw line last year.
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
October 23 2017 16:36 GMT
#355
On October 24 2017 01:06 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2017 23:02 Jerubaal wrote:
We sure are spending a lot of time talking about a player whose ceiling was probably going to be average starter.


If you are meaning Ball his ceiling at least by "draft pundits" was Kidd. And if you mean Ingram it was a mix of Odom and Durrant. Ball it is way to early to say for sure, I mean it took Kidd a long time to become what he did. But I think with ingram they would be happy if he became a quality starter.


for a guy that they would not trade, i think just a quality starter would be disappointing
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17811 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-23 19:08:00
October 23 2017 18:43 GMT
#356
Eric Bledsoe sent home.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21127746/eric-bledsoe-sent-home-meeting-phoenix-suns

Cleveland could use a PG.
JR Smith will now start (assuming that reckless driving thing doesn't interfere) and Wade will come off the bench. I think this is a good move by Cleveland. in 2017, Smith > Wade.

the Spurs held opponents to the 5th lowest 3 point percentage and opponents took the 3rd fewest 3s against the Spurs last year. Let's see if the Raptors throw up 40+ 3s tonight.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 23 2017 19:14 GMT
#357
--- Nuked ---
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-23 19:16:15
October 23 2017 19:15 GMT
#358
--- Nuked ---
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
October 23 2017 19:33 GMT
#359
On October 24 2017 04:14 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2017 01:08 andrewlt wrote:
Curry routinely had big games against the Clippers when CP3 was there. Some point guards are sieves on defense, sure, but defending quick pgs is more about team defense rather than individual defense. Ball is counted to be more of a distributor than a scorer anyway.

What is the scouting report on Brandon Ingram during the draft? What is he supposed to be good at? I remember the discussion last year was that he had a similar build to Kevin Durant, who also struggled his first year in the league. But Durant is a good shooter who shot in the high 80s at the free throw line his rookie year. His fg% eventually improved once he got used to the NBA. Ingram was terrible at the free throw line last year.


I heard Odom and then NBAdraft net said Prince/Durrant. Yikes.

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/brandon-ingram


I think the Durant thing is more about the similarities in their build and body type rather than their game. Ingram doesn't seem like an all-around scorer at all.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 23 2017 19:48 GMT
#360
Also Durant was a sick rebounder at Texas. Its kind of understandable that Ingram was not because duke usually has some good interior guys, but the hope with him was always that he could be an elite (because of his ballhandling) stretch 4 once he filled out.
Freeeeeeedom
Prev 1 16 17 18 19 20 143 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 41m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Serral 1739
UpATreeSC 70
EnDerr 26
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 26969
Shuttle 2647
Soulkey 775
Soma 572
Stork 415
Larva 387
Rush 355
Mini 328
actioN 249
EffOrt 227
[ Show more ]
hero 120
Zeus 101
firebathero 100
Sharp 77
Sea.KH 69
Yoon 65
Barracks 55
Killer 43
Pusan 39
Shine 31
Mong 29
Sexy 26
ToSsGirL 26
Terrorterran 26
soO 22
yabsab 15
SilentControl 14
scan(afreeca) 9
Dota 2
Gorgc5991
BananaSlamJamma245
Heroes of the Storm
MindelVK2
Other Games
B2W.Neo1212
hiko1046
FrodaN1008
Beastyqt481
Lowko432
Sick138
KnowMe108
QueenE79
Liquid`LucifroN78
ArmadaUGS69
Trikslyr39
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick961
StarCraft 2
WardiTV439
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 10
StarCraft 2
TaKeTV 0
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 29
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 4246
• WagamamaTV792
League of Legends
• Jankos1312
• Nemesis1279
Other Games
• Shiphtur40
Upcoming Events
RotterdaM Event
41m
Replay Cast
8h 26m
GSL
19h 26m
Replay Cast
1d 8h
GSL
1d 19h
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
1d 23h
Spirit vs Mixu
Replay Cast
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Shine vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Light vs EffOrt
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.