• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:20
CEST 17:20
KST 00:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy8uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event17Serral wins EWC 202549Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple6SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments6[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy Rogue Talks: "Koreans could dominate again"
Tourneys
SEL Masters #5 - Korea vs Russia (SC Evo) LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Enki Epic Series #5 - TaeJa vs Classic (SC Evo) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion New season has just come in ladder StarCraft player reflex TE scores BSL Polish World Championship 2025 20-21 September
Tourneys
Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches KCM 2025 Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI The year 2050
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Biochemical Cost of Gami…
TrAiDoS
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1147 users

NBA Offseason 2017 - Page 24

Forum Index > Sports
Post a Reply
Prev 1 22 23 24 25 26 46 Next All
Keyboard Warrior
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1178 Posts
July 01 2017 15:50 GMT
#461
^plenty

lecramp to gsw
kawhi to magic
hayward to nuggets
lowry to clippers
clippers fire rivers
igoudala to lakers
Not your regular Keyboard Warrior ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-01 16:03:08
July 01 2017 16:01 GMT
#462
On July 02 2017 00:50 Keyboard Warrior wrote:
^plenty

lecramp to gsw
kawhi to magic
hayward to nuggets
lowry to clippers
clippers fire rivers
igoudala to lakers


lebron and kawhi arent even free agents, how exactly are they going anywhere? and i dont think lakers signs anyone to a big contract this offseason, they have to keep cap available for george and lebron.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
July 01 2017 16:28 GMT
#463
The west has 15 teams. If we move the Cavs there, we can have a 16-team NBA and just abolish the eastern conference.
nVme
Profile Joined October 2010
952 Posts
July 01 2017 16:29 GMT
#464
pg to okc... eh
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16711 Posts
July 01 2017 16:51 GMT
#465
welp, our collection of 31+ year old point guards Chris Paul, Kyle Lowry, and George Hill have not exactly set the marketplace ablaze with amazing deals.

it looks like the Raptors have got Lowry where they want him. i'm not inviting Masai Ujiri to my next poker game.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
July 01 2017 17:47 GMT
#466
On July 02 2017 01:51 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
welp, our collection of 31+ year old point guards Chris Paul, Kyle Lowry, and George Hill have not exactly set the marketplace ablaze with amazing deals.

it looks like the Raptors have got Lowry where they want him. i'm not inviting Masai Ujiri to my next poker game.


raptors need lowry more than he needs them imo. w/o lowry where do the raptors go? i understand he's not the greatest option but i think he's toronto's ONLY option at staying near the top of the east.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 01 2017 17:57 GMT
#467
--- Nuked ---
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 01 2017 18:07 GMT
#468
On July 01 2017 13:41 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2017 13:32 Keyboard Warrior wrote:
at this point, lelbron can just coast again for another finals appearance and finals loss

Assuming the Cavs keep their lineup intact or at least not slide down in talent level so much, yes, they can coast to the playoffs, and even to the finals, but I think a stronger West will only improve their chances. With the Thunders, Warriors, Rockets, Wolves, Grizzlies, and Spurs all battling out of 4-3 series at each round, the winner will be so banged up and softened to still compete for another series in the finals.

This was always CLE's hope. They won in 2016 because GSW was torn up by OKC.
Freeeeeeedom
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
July 01 2017 19:57 GMT
#469
Yeah, the other western teams just need to keep it close until Draymond hits somebody in the nuts. That's the opening the Cavs need.

For all the talk about the Warriors superteam, the other teams in the west are trying to knock them off. The east meanwhile is just waiting for Lebron to retire.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 01 2017 20:25 GMT
#470
--- Nuked ---
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16711 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-01 21:27:38
July 01 2017 20:41 GMT
#471
On July 02 2017 05:25 JimmiC wrote:
Celts are pussies. Like how they didnt out bid that shit offer from okc is mind boggling. And with pg they could contend in the east

Ainge prolly wants Hayward for just money.
On July 02 2017 02:47 zev318 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2017 01:51 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
welp, our collection of 31+ year old point guards Chris Paul, Kyle Lowry, and George Hill have not exactly set the marketplace ablaze with amazing deals.
it looks like the Raptors have got Lowry where they want him. i'm not inviting Masai Ujiri to my next poker game.

raptors need lowry more than he needs them imo. w/o lowry where do the raptors go? i understand he's not the greatest option but i think he's toronto's ONLY option at staying near the top of the east.

this was probably true up until about 16 hours ago.
now with many of the available starting PG spots taken who has enough cap space to sign Lowry and needs a starting point guard?
the new york knicks perhaps?

EDIT : Philly just signed Redick to a 1-year, $23 million deal putting Philadelphia is within $14 million of the cap. So I don't think Philadelphia can sign Lowry.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
July 01 2017 21:39 GMT
#472
On July 02 2017 05:25 JimmiC wrote:
Celts are pussies. Like how they didnt out bid that shit offer from okc is mind boggling. And with pg they could contend in the east


http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0672795324686802304-4
"Most of the NBA execs I have talked to since Paul George trade feel that Kevin Pritchard was just too hell-bent on keeping George out of Eastern Conference; made it emotional instead of taking the best offer."
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 01 2017 22:03 GMT
#473
--- Nuked ---
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16711 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-01 23:04:11
July 01 2017 22:59 GMT
#474
Philly signed Amir Johnson for $11 million for 1 year. For the cost that's a good pick up by Philly. I like Amir, he is a smart player, if limited offensively, he knows how to keep his mouth shut. Amir and Colangelo have history from his years Toronto.. so Colangelo prolly knows a lot about him. It'll be interesting to see what kind of role he gets in Philly.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-02 00:05:51
July 02 2017 00:03 GMT
#475
On July 02 2017 05:25 JimmiC wrote:
Celts are pussies. Like how they didnt out bid that shit offer from okc is mind boggling. And with pg they could contend in the east

why waste assets on a rental? They're in a great spot and I don't see IT getting them past 2018 lebron and GS, even with PG's help. I don't know why people blame ainge for being patient. Unless there's a legit chance of keeping who you trade for, use the picks and make the team so attractive that they get FA's and don't give up anything.

Philly now with Fultz, Reddick, Simmons, Saric, Embiid, Covington, Okafor and Amir.... definitely the team I'm most excited to see this season
Yhamm is the god of predictions
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8240 Posts
July 02 2017 00:15 GMT
#476
So with all these leaks and sources, where are reporters getting all this info from? Aren't these trades and signings, as well as how execs and GMs feel about a player or a trade that went down, supposed to be top secret unless revealed publicly to the public?
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16711 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-02 00:42:58
July 02 2017 00:33 GMT
#477
On July 02 2017 09:03 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2017 05:25 JimmiC wrote:
Celts are pussies. Like how they didnt out bid that shit offer from okc is mind boggling. And with pg they could contend in the east

why waste assets on a rental? They're in a great spot and I don't see IT getting them past 2018 lebron and GS, even with PG's help. I don't know why people blame ainge for being patient. Unless there's a legit chance of keeping who you trade for, use the picks and make the team so attractive that they get FA's and don't give up anything.

ya, good points.
i don't get why Ainge traded away a shot at Fultz though. IT is too weak on defense to be a championship level starting PG.

pretty sure Ainge was a point guard during his career.. maybe he sees something wrong with Fultz no one else sees.
On July 02 2017 09:03 Scarecrow wrote:
Philly now with Fultz, Reddick, Simmons, Saric, Embiid, Covington, Okafor and Amir.... definitely the team I'm most excited to see this season

great move by Philly to keep Reddick and Amir on 1 year deals.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
July 02 2017 01:39 GMT
#478
We (76ers) making moves!
Forever Young
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 02 2017 02:35 GMT
#479
On July 02 2017 05:25 JimmiC wrote:
Celts are pussies. Like how they didnt out bid that shit offer from okc is mind boggling. And with pg they could contend in the east

Celts aren't pussies, just realistic about how bad their roster is.
Freeeeeeedom
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
July 02 2017 02:38 GMT
#480
If you're going to let go of the likes of Bradley, Smart and Thomas in free agency, why not get PG for them? It's not like the Celtics are going to lose anything if he bolts if the players they trade for him will be gone as well.
Prev 1 22 23 24 25 26 46 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Online Event
15:00
SEL Master #5: Korea vs Russia
SteadfastSC114
EnkiAlexander 53
MindelVK25
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 440
Hui .215
SteadfastSC 114
ProTech82
Rex 67
BRAT_OK 63
MindelVK 25
StarCraft: Brood War
Bisu 2512
Shuttle 1139
Larva 977
firebathero 948
ggaemo 654
Snow 369
Barracks 362
hero 348
Soma 192
Rush 182
[ Show more ]
EffOrt 135
Mong 116
Mind 90
ToSsGirL 88
sSak 65
Movie 56
Sharp 51
JYJ46
[sc1f]eonzerg 32
Aegong 30
JulyZerg 28
sas.Sziky 25
Sexy 24
ajuk12(nOOB) 23
scan(afreeca) 18
Terrorterran 15
IntoTheRainbow 6
ivOry 3
Stormgate
TKL 158
Dota 2
Gorgc5812
qojqva1961
Dendi960
XcaliburYe157
420jenkins111
Counter-Strike
fl0m3051
markeloff525
Other Games
FrodaN2476
hiko809
B2W.Neo785
ScreaM694
Lowko633
DeMusliM386
crisheroes354
RotterdaM238
Beastyqt231
Fuzer 173
XaKoH 140
ViBE104
ArmadaUGS95
KnowMe90
Trikslyr38
QueenE36
StateSC215
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 21
• Adnapsc2 1
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 6
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis2506
• Jankos1198
Other Games
• WagamamaTV126
• Shiphtur116
Upcoming Events
BSL Team Wars
3h 40m
Team Hawk vs Team Sziky
Online Event
19h 40m
SC Evo League
20h 40m
Online Event
21h 40m
OSC
21h 40m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
23h 40m
CSO Contender
1d 1h
[BSL 2025] Weekly
1d 2h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 18h
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 19h
[ Show More ]
SC Evo League
1d 20h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 23h
BSL Team Wars
2 days
Team Dewalt vs Team Bonyth
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Sharp vs Ample
Larva vs Stork
Wardi Open
2 days
RotterdaM Event
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
JyJ vs TY
Bisu vs Speed
WardiTV Summer Champion…
3 days
PiGosaur Monday
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Mini vs TBD
Soma vs sSak
WardiTV Summer Champion…
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
LiuLi Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-08-13
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLAN 3
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.