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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-20 13:59:58
June 20 2017 13:59 GMT
#6061
Pay your taxes ffs...

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18762 Posts
June 20 2017 14:17 GMT
#6062
Rich people never do.,..
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18468 Posts
June 20 2017 14:28 GMT
#6063
Clearly the problem is systemic, meaning it's not really individuals doing dodgy tax evasion schemes but some horribly unclear tax laws that allow individuals to interpret them in one way and the government then fuck them over by proclaiming that it should have been interpreted some other way. Because I refuse to believe Messi, Neymar, Ronaldo and Mourinho are all evil tax frauders (and no other international players in other countries are... and Mourinho or Ronaldo didn't also commit tax fraud in Italy or the UK).
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
June 20 2017 14:53 GMT
#6064
On June 20 2017 23:28 Acrofales wrote:
Clearly the problem is systemic, meaning it's not really individuals doing dodgy tax evasion schemes but some horribly unclear tax laws that allow individuals to interpret them in one way and the government then fuck them over by proclaiming that it should have been interpreted some other way. Because I refuse to believe Messi, Neymar, Ronaldo and Mourinho are all evil tax frauders (and no other international players in other countries are... and Mourinho or Ronaldo didn't also commit tax fraud in Italy or the UK).

Falcao dropped Mendes because of tax issues, same agent as Ronaldo and Mourinho. There was a clear intent to fraud in the Neymar transfer. I can't tell for Messi.

The way the Fuentes case was dropped was shady as fuck too, we knew he had customers in top clubs.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 20 2017 17:09 GMT
#6065
Yeah im with Sharkie on this one xD all rich people do this it just until they get court. Good on Spain for taking a stand whilst it might be a little to late but still i hope they get there money.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18762 Posts
June 20 2017 18:25 GMT
#6066
On June 20 2017 23:28 Acrofales wrote:
Clearly the problem is systemic, meaning it's not really individuals doing dodgy tax evasion schemes but some horribly unclear tax laws that allow individuals to interpret them in one way and the government then fuck them over by proclaiming that it should have been interpreted some other way. Because I refuse to believe Messi, Neymar, Ronaldo and Mourinho are all evil tax frauders (and no other international players in other countries are... and Mourinho or Ronaldo didn't also commit tax fraud in Italy or the UK).


They are all evil tax frauders. The others were just not caught sheesh
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 20 2017 18:28 GMT
#6067
[UEFA] Salzburg and Leipzig both admitted into UEFA Champions League

Good news for once from UEFA!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
June 20 2017 18:32 GMT
#6068
On June 21 2017 03:28 Pandemona wrote:
[UEFA] Salzburg and Leipzig both admitted into UEFA Champions League

Good news for once from UEFA!

But Salzbug has to drop the RB from their name.
They will now play as FC Salzburg most likely.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
June 20 2017 19:36 GMT
#6069
On June 21 2017 03:32 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2017 03:28 Pandemona wrote:
[UEFA] Salzburg and Leipzig both admitted into UEFA Champions League

Good news for once from UEFA!

But Salzbug has to drop the RB from their name.
They will now play as FC Salzburg most likely.

That has been the case for several years now, they also have to alter their crest for european competitions.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
June 21 2017 02:18 GMT
#6070
Lol arsene saying arsenal would have won 2006 cl with VAR. Think he forgot his goal came from a dive from eboue as well
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-21 04:01:53
June 21 2017 04:00 GMT
#6071
On June 21 2017 03:25 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 23:28 Acrofales wrote:
Clearly the problem is systemic, meaning it's not really individuals doing dodgy tax evasion schemes but some horribly unclear tax laws that allow individuals to interpret them in one way and the government then fuck them over by proclaiming that it should have been interpreted some other way. Because I refuse to believe Messi, Neymar, Ronaldo and Mourinho are all evil tax frauders (and no other international players in other countries are... and Mourinho or Ronaldo didn't also commit tax fraud in Italy or the UK).


They are all evil tax frauders. The others were just not caught sheesh


Evil is a very strong word. Frankly they arent smart enough in that realm to be the evil tax frauders. But they are certainly culpable and sadly ignorance is not a defense.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 21 2017 07:30 GMT
#6072
Yeah no way Ronaldo knows how to avoid tax same with Messi and Neymar. However they can sure pay people who will do it for them. Not saying they intentionally went out to do that but when someone said oh btw i can make u an extra £10million a year if u use this guy for your accounts they going to do it xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8930 Posts
June 21 2017 08:30 GMT
#6073
On June 21 2017 16:30 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah no way Ronaldo knows how to avoid tax same with Messi and Neymar. However they can sure pay people who will do it for them. Not saying they intentionally went out to do that but when someone said oh btw i can make u an extra £10million a year if u use this guy for your accounts they going to do it xD

and you wouldnt?
this topic came up last time when messi was first convicted too. most people here acting like theyre saints and would never reduce the amount of tax they had to pay if they could.
these players are simply doing what they thought would legitimately help them reduce their tax and it turns out whoever manages their finances was shit at their job.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18762 Posts
June 21 2017 09:21 GMT
#6074
On June 21 2017 17:30 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2017 16:30 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah no way Ronaldo knows how to avoid tax same with Messi and Neymar. However they can sure pay people who will do it for them. Not saying they intentionally went out to do that but when someone said oh btw i can make u an extra £10million a year if u use this guy for your accounts they going to do it xD

and you wouldnt?
this topic came up last time when messi was first convicted too. most people here acting like theyre saints and would never reduce the amount of tax they had to pay if they could.
these players are simply doing what they thought would legitimately help them reduce their tax and it turns out whoever manages their finances was shit at their job.


Yes I wouldn't. You think people who don't earn millions don't have the chance to reduce their tax or do tax fraud?
They do have the chance and there are many/few who do it. There are also people who don't do it.

What I hate is that rich people do it.
(Insane examples):
What difference does 10 million make to 100 million? Nothing.
What difference does 100 make to 1000? Yeah, ask anyone who earns so little
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-21 09:30:13
June 21 2017 09:29 GMT
#6075
Lots of countries have different tax brackets depending on your revenue. In France if you earn more than X amount, you have to pay 40 or 50% instead of 25-30% (I'm not sure about the exact numbers). So yeah, you want to avoid paying that much, no matter if you're rich or not. It's a completely different topic, but taxing rich people more isn't the solution to fix a country's budget... And if I was earning millions, I would find ways to pay less taxes while still contributing. Ronaldo has been giving money to charities, it's probably better than giving money to the government x)
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 21 2017 13:22 GMT
#6076
https://en.onefootball.com/angel-di-maria-sentenced-one-year-prison-tax-fraud/

They need to make a movie out of these...
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 21 2017 14:04 GMT
#6077
On June 21 2017 17:30 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2017 16:30 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah no way Ronaldo knows how to avoid tax same with Messi and Neymar. However they can sure pay people who will do it for them. Not saying they intentionally went out to do that but when someone said oh btw i can make u an extra £10million a year if u use this guy for your accounts they going to do it xD

and you wouldnt?
this topic came up last time when messi was first convicted too. most people here acting like theyre saints and would never reduce the amount of tax they had to pay if they could.
these players are simply doing what they thought would legitimately help them reduce their tax and it turns out whoever manages their finances was shit at their job.

I didn't say i wouldn't i just said that they are to stupid enough to do it but they are told about it in terms of "we are saving u money". Directors of companies do it etc etc etc. Would i do it, i would actually not sure. Depends how i change but im very lazy right now and probs wouldn't but again it be down to the agents/sponsors pushing you into stuff i don't know.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
June 21 2017 14:06 GMT
#6078
I can't wait for FC penitenciara to win La Liga, sick team with a great coach.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
June 21 2017 16:38 GMT
#6079
Russia vs Portugal way more interesting than i thought it would be
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
June 21 2017 17:24 GMT
#6080
On June 22 2017 01:38 Faruko wrote:
Russia vs Portugal way more interesting than i thought it would be

Did you have low expectations or did I only pay attention at the wrong times?
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