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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28669 Posts
June 17 2017 17:10 GMT
#6041
On June 18 2017 01:18 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 01:06 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Him going back to United seems possible. I'm kinda inclined to agree the most likely outcome is that he stays though. I also don't think he's gonna do qatar/china (or US) until he's done as a top player, I think he cares way, way more about personal achievements and breaking records than he cares about getting even richer. And nobody gets a ballon d'or playing in China.


I think he has to much professional pride to play in a shitty league. I dont think he will every see himself as not being a top player till he retires. And frankly the monster athlete that he is he has plenty of "top player" years left in him.


yeah like I could potentially see him go to a shitty league when he's like, 38 or whatever, to make an extra easy $100 million for showing up. But as long as he's a ballon d'or contender, that is his priority. Probably more so than winning more titles for his clubs imo.
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mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-18 10:18:10
June 18 2017 01:25 GMT
#6042
It is summer, it is time for RULES DISCUSSION. (This is like the postTI dota patch time :D)

IFABs newest ideas which are to be discussed are according to various media:
- 60 minute gametime, but pure playtime. So basically clock is stopped whenever the ball is not in play. - same as in hockey or basketball
- game can only end when the ball is out of play.
- goalkicks can be played to a player inside the box
- freekicks/corners can be dribbled. The second touch does not need to be another player anymore.
- freekicks can be done with a moving ball
- hand play on the goal line (by a player of the defending team) is automatically called a goal, regardless if the ball would have went in or not
- penalty kicks are followed by a goal kick, so no rebound goals are possible (motivation is supposedly the issue of encroachment, as this rule is always violated these days...)
- referee mobbing can be punished with goal/point deductions (gosh, imagine the spanish league... whoever has positive points at the end of the season will win....)

edit:
Here is the original document with all those suggestions
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2394 Posts
June 18 2017 16:20 GMT
#6043
On June 18 2017 01:51 lprk wrote:
El Mundo: "Cristiano is the latest Mendes customer to have tax problems. One of them, Falcao, has already pointed at Mendes as the perpetrator. Falcao abandoned Mendes, who now fears that Cristiano will do the same. To save himself, he started pulling the strings to blame Madrid and Spain instead." That actually makes the most sense from all the reports so far.

That's the easiest explanation since no one has any sympathy for Mendes. To me it's more likely that there is a complex gray area over the taxation of international image rights by foreign nationals who sold these rights to a foreign company and haven't withdrawn these funds for personal use. Since the gray area exists, whoever ran this for him may acted based on precedent - its likely that many have acted this way without any problems for years. Now given the need to cut deficits, the descendants from the Spanish inquisition decided to make an example out of football players, threatening them with long jail sentences. A guy worth north of 300m isn't going to knowingly risk going to jail over an alleged 14m.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-18 17:01:51
June 18 2017 17:00 GMT
#6044
Surprisingly pleasant game between Portugal and Mexico, this competition might end up more interesting than I first thought. Good use of video to note, during goal celebrations, 38 seconds total, no time lost.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2394 Posts
June 18 2017 17:49 GMT
#6045
On June 19 2017 02:00 nojok wrote:
Surprisingly pleasant game between Portugal and Mexico, this competition might end up more interesting than I first thought. Good use of video to note, during goal celebrations, 38 seconds total, no time lost.

I liked what I saw upfront, but our defense really dropped the ball today. Midfield isn't really working either which is silly considering the amount of talent we have there.

Respect to Mexico who have got a lot of fighters in that squad.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
June 18 2017 20:01 GMT
#6046
Vidal so clutch

The VAR technology is just ridiculuous implemented like that
Espers
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom606 Posts
June 19 2017 04:18 GMT
#6047
Ronaldo just wants papa flo to foot his tax bill
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
June 19 2017 16:59 GMT
#6048
I think it's the worst German national team I've ever seen, 3 2 win against Australia but still. Werner and Stegen should be in the starting line up and the defense did not work.

Gratz to Australia, they put a decent fight
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-19 17:54:27
June 19 2017 17:03 GMT
#6049
England down 1-0 to Slovakia in U21. It Annoying as England not breaking down Slovakia at all, we trying but can't break through i guess just not good enough.

2-1 up :D
Nice England u21 up and running with that win!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
June 19 2017 19:52 GMT
#6050
On June 20 2017 01:59 nojok wrote:
I think it's the worst German national team I've ever seen, 3 2 win against Australia but still. Werner and Stegen should be in the starting line up and the defense did not work.

Gratz to Australia, they put a decent fight

I guess you didnt see some of the teams around 1998-2004 (not including the 2002 world cup). It was really dire. Like, crossfield "passes" crossing the sidelines at 10 meters of altitude. Iirc after the 1996 final we didnt beat a european team at a big tournament for until 2006. Some of the friendlies were abject. A "worst of" includes 1-5 losses to romania and england, the 199 confederations cup (ok it was a B team), a last second 2-1 win vs the faroe islands, and my personal lowlight (not so much because of the result but because of the lack of any apparent skill or effort by the players) a 1-0 loss to wales.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18408 Posts
June 19 2017 19:59 GMT
#6051
All those post 2006 Germany fans dont know what abysmal was.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-19 20:36:52
June 19 2017 20:36 GMT
#6052
2002 Germany was all on Kahn, i still think he is one of the greatest keepers of all time.

Sure he made a mistake on Brazil first goal, but he was the sole reason that awful germany got to the finals
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
June 19 2017 20:47 GMT
#6053
I re watched that finals the other day and tbf even if Khan was on his day in that finals. Ronaldinho was just another level, Ronaldo should had 6 before Khan made a mistake but he also had an off day.

Fun finals though.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
June 19 2017 20:48 GMT
#6054
On June 20 2017 05:36 Faruko wrote:
2002 Germany was all on Kahn, i still think he is one of the greatest keepers of all time.

Sure he made a mistake on Brazil first goal, but he was the sole reason that awful germany got to the finals

We also had Ballack, who was boss
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-19 20:52:43
June 19 2017 20:51 GMT
#6055
On June 20 2017 05:36 Faruko wrote:
2002 Germany was all on Kahn, i still think he is one of the greatest keepers of all time.

Sure he made a mistake on Brazil first goal, but he was the sole reason that awful germany got to the finals


Also Ballack dude, hard carry mode. And some luck in the draw also.

And ofc Klose with the join second top scorer by scoring in just one game lel...
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2394 Posts
June 19 2017 22:30 GMT
#6056
On June 20 2017 04:52 Mafe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 01:59 nojok wrote:
I think it's the worst German national team I've ever seen, 3 2 win against Australia but still. Werner and Stegen should be in the starting line up and the defense did not work.

Gratz to Australia, they put a decent fight

I guess you didnt see some of the teams around 1998-2004 (not including the 2002 world cup). It was really dire. Like, crossfield "passes" crossing the sidelines at 10 meters of altitude. Iirc after the 1996 final we didnt beat a european team at a big tournament for until 2006. Some of the friendlies were abject. A "worst of" includes 1-5 losses to romania and england, the 199 confederations cup (ok it was a B team), a last second 2-1 win vs the faroe islands, and my personal lowlight (not so much because of the result but because of the lack of any apparent skill or effort by the players) a 1-0 loss to wales.

I miss that Germany. Remember the 3-0 at the Euro 2000 fondly.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
June 20 2017 03:16 GMT
#6057
On June 18 2017 01:18 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 01:06 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Him going back to United seems possible. I'm kinda inclined to agree the most likely outcome is that he stays though. I also don't think he's gonna do qatar/china (or US) until he's done as a top player, I think he cares way, way more about personal achievements and breaking records than he cares about getting even richer. And nobody gets a ballon d'or playing in China.


I think he has to much professional pride to play in a shitty league. I dont think he will every see himself as not being a top player till he retires. And frankly the monster athlete that he is he has plenty of "top player" years left in him.

The way i see it Ronaldo will mostly likely to grab his 5th Ballon d'Or this year, bring him up to Messi's record. Being the competitive beast that he is, Ronaldo will definitely want to get one more, especially before Messi does. And I don't see a better place to do that than at Real Madrid (well there's probably Barcelona but it'd be a cold day in hell). So yea, Ronaldo will probably stay for another year at least.

Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3978 Posts
June 20 2017 03:48 GMT
#6058
On June 20 2017 12:16 nayumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 01:18 Rebs wrote:
On June 18 2017 01:06 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Him going back to United seems possible. I'm kinda inclined to agree the most likely outcome is that he stays though. I also don't think he's gonna do qatar/china (or US) until he's done as a top player, I think he cares way, way more about personal achievements and breaking records than he cares about getting even richer. And nobody gets a ballon d'or playing in China.


I think he has to much professional pride to play in a shitty league. I dont think he will every see himself as not being a top player till he retires. And frankly the monster athlete that he is he has plenty of "top player" years left in him.

The way i see it Ronaldo will mostly likely to grab his 5th Ballon d'Or this year, bring him up to Messi's record. Being the competitive beast that he is, Ronaldo will definitely want to get one more, especially before Messi does. And I don't see a better place to do that than at Real Madrid (well there's probably Barcelona but it'd be a cold day in hell). So yea, Ronaldo will probably stay for another year at least.


Fair enough. He would probably gain the record of being the most expensive transfer ever if he went to United or PSG for 200 million though, a record that you don't want to miss out on...
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18408 Posts
June 20 2017 04:16 GMT
#6059
On June 20 2017 12:48 aseq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 12:16 nayumi wrote:
On June 18 2017 01:18 Rebs wrote:
On June 18 2017 01:06 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Him going back to United seems possible. I'm kinda inclined to agree the most likely outcome is that he stays though. I also don't think he's gonna do qatar/china (or US) until he's done as a top player, I think he cares way, way more about personal achievements and breaking records than he cares about getting even richer. And nobody gets a ballon d'or playing in China.


I think he has to much professional pride to play in a shitty league. I dont think he will every see himself as not being a top player till he retires. And frankly the monster athlete that he is he has plenty of "top player" years left in him.

The way i see it Ronaldo will mostly likely to grab his 5th Ballon d'Or this year, bring him up to Messi's record. Being the competitive beast that he is, Ronaldo will definitely want to get one more, especially before Messi does. And I don't see a better place to do that than at Real Madrid (well there's probably Barcelona but it'd be a cold day in hell). So yea, Ronaldo will probably stay for another year at least.


Fair enough. He would probably gain the record of being the most expensive transfer ever if he went to United or PSG for 200 million though, a record that you don't want to miss out on...


That record would be broken so easily in the years to come.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
June 20 2017 06:41 GMT
#6060
On June 20 2017 04:52 Mafe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 01:59 nojok wrote:
I think it's the worst German national team I've ever seen, 3 2 win against Australia but still. Werner and Stegen should be in the starting line up and the defense did not work.

Gratz to Australia, they put a decent fight

I guess you didnt see some of the teams around 1998-2004 (not including the 2002 world cup). It was really dire. Like, crossfield "passes" crossing the sidelines at 10 meters of altitude. Iirc after the 1996 final we didnt beat a european team at a big tournament for until 2006. Some of the friendlies were abject. A "worst of" includes 1-5 losses to romania and england, the 199 confederations cup (ok it was a B team), a last second 2-1 win vs the faroe islands, and my personal lowlight (not so much because of the result but because of the lack of any apparent skill or effort by the players) a 1-0 loss to wales.

Why would I watch Germany against Romania or Faroe islands? I might have watched England Germany though but internet was crappy back then and it certainly did not air on TV. I'd take all those loss to have a national team which always performs at the world cup.

My personal French lowlight was players not getting out of the bus in 2010, karma for eliminating Ireland with a handball I guess.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
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