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zeratul_jf
United States808 Posts
On July 30 2014 07:22 ZenithM wrote: They don't have the Floor General signature move so I don't think so, no. Who else on this thread plays games like NBA 2K? Am I the only loser who enjoys playing that? :D No sir I also play this game, and its for winners!!! | ||
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cheese sandwich
Russian Federation194 Posts
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
Cleveland Receives: PF Kevin Love ($15.7), SG Corey Brewer ($4.7) Minnesota Receives: SG Andrew Wiggins ($5.5), PF Thaddeus Young ($9.4), PF Anthony Bennett ($5.6), PG John Lucas III ($1.6) and Cleveland's 2018 first-round pick. Philadelphia Receives: SG Dion Waiters ($4.1), PG J.J. Barea ($4.5), C Brendan Haywood ($2.2), PF Malcolm Thomas (950k) and a 2015 first-round pick (via Miami from Cleveland). Cleveland is obviously the big winner here, as they get a transcendent talent in Love. While forfeiting two first-round picks, Wiggins, Bennett and Waiters might not be viewed as ideal, that's right along the line of what true superstars like Carmelo Anthony have gone for in the past. Acquiring Corey Brewer helps after moving so much depth, as his improved corner three-point shooting, length defensively and athleticism in transition are a perfect fit next to Love and James on the wing. For Minnesota, this isn't a bad haul at all. Wiggins is the big prize, but getting Young and Bennett can fortify the frontcourt along with Pekovic and Gorgui Dieng going forward. There's some trade flexibility and interesting pairings in that group. Lucas is on a non-guaranteed deal that can be waived, and getting Barea off the books makes sense with free agent Mo Williams signing with the team. Basically, this allows Minnesota to stay somewhat competitive while getting two former No. 1 overall picks as well as a future draft choice. This should stave off a lengthy rebuilding period at the least. The acquired 2018 first-round pick is a bet that James will go somewhere else between now and then, and for that reason it's probably more valuable than a pick slated to come over sooner. or Philadelphia, this is a wager that Waiters figures it out and settles into his role, whether that be as a high-usage shooting guard or an electric sixth man. Even if that doesn't happen, though, the 76ers aren't taking on much risk here. A rookie-scale player and a future first-round choice isn't a bad haul for Young. Haywood's contract for 2015-16 is non-guaranteed, Barea is on an expiring deal and could be flipped somewhere else and Thomas is non-guaranteed, although he's an intriguing keeper as a rebounding machine for Philadelphia's youth movement. The pick via Miami (top-10 protected in 2015 and 2016, unprotected after) is a bet that Dwyane Wade can't stay healthy and that things fall apart post-LeBron. Even if the selection ends up in the early 20s, that pick still has value. Would Philly even agree to this? | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13509 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
I guess young players change in 4 years, so I don't expect much insight to be had on the first pick in 2018. | ||
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Tosstriss
Canada334 Posts
On July 30 2014 21:09 ZenithM wrote: I'm not really familiar with how trading works. Is a first pick for the 2018 draft a total unknown or do they already have an idea (via scouting and whatnot) of who might turn up? I guess young players change in 4 years, so I don't expect much insight to be had on the first pick in 2018. I think it is unknown because a few years ago the Melo trade involved the 2014 pick. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
Kobe's "clutch" numbers are actually pretty bad. His fg% in the clutch is terrible. He has a tendency to take extremely tough shots near the end of games. The shots he makes are memorable because of how difficult they are. People forget all the shots he misses and how his fg% is lower in the clutch. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
I don't think many younger males understand the gravity of the situation and remarks made by SAS. Reading some of the Ombudsman articles, the people who write to the ombudsmen are generally older and more mature than the idiots who use the comment section on ESPN. | ||
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Haiq343
United States2548 Posts
On July 31 2014 05:30 On_Slaught wrote: I couldn't even finish the article. The whole thing is blown out of proportion. Beadle comes out looking worse than SAS in my view. What he said wasn't wrong in general, but the subject is simply too emotional for many people and he stepped on a landmine. He did a terrible job of speaking around an incredibly charged issue. He fucked up. A week's suspension from ESPN is not a big deal, and the notion that he's been somehow wronged is pretty baffling. He may have intended to point out that safety can be more important than moral authority when threatened, but he basically said that women can provoke domestic assault. Beadle called him on it, but anyone who thinks SAS's comments wouldn't have been an issue if not for her tweets is a fool. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On July 31 2014 05:51 Haiq343 wrote: He did a terrible job of speaking around an incredibly charged issue. He fucked up. A week's suspension from ESPN is not a big deal, and the notion that he's been somehow wronged is pretty baffling. He may have intended to point out that safety can be more important than moral authority when threatened, but he basically said that women can provoke domestic assault. Beadle called him on it, but anyone who thinks SAS's comments wouldn't have been an issue if not for her tweets is a fool. @the bolded: Yes - and that is the truth. People don't want to hear it but what he said isn't wrong. Women can provoke violence. Notice Stephen A didn't excuse Rice for his actions at all. People are saying his wife is a victim of DV when that isn't the jist of the argument. It's keeping your hands (and bodily fluids) to yourself. His wife provoked the situation by spitting on him. Stephen A actually wasn't in hot water till the Beadle tweets. ESPN released a statement and then took further action later. They didn't care one bit about women's views on this but the negative reaction they were getting. | ||
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Haiq343
United States2548 Posts
On July 31 2014 05:51 Ace wrote: I understand it well. What he said was pretty sensible - do not put your hands on other people and not expect retaliation. It's that simple. What?! That's not what he said at all. That's not what he meant to say and failed to articulate. What the fuck does that have to do with anything? | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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